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candyd10_14x
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Philips 1000 Electronic De Luxe
Would that philips be one of the "spin-draining" models?
Would that philips be one of the "spin-draining" models?
matchboxpaul
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How do guys.
The Philips is a spin drainer model for sure. You dont see an AWB088 for ages and then two surface within the month!
Hi Al.
Re the Electrolux - tiz under observation for sure! It looks really nice, but I am not throwing money around at the moment, so will have to see whather the reserve is in any way, shape or form realistic.
Paul
The Philips is a spin drainer model for sure. You dont see an AWB088 for ages and then two surface within the month!
Hi Al.
Re the Electrolux - tiz under observation for sure! It looks really nice, but I am not throwing money around at the moment, so will have to see whather the reserve is in any way, shape or form realistic.
Paul
There are two systems of spin-draining. The older ones had a system that would try to get up to speed as fast as possible, already on the first increment on the timer they speed up.
The newer ones start spinning at a low speed and keep doing that until they move on to the next increment on the timer. The drum is empty by then and the machine can easily increase the spin speed now. The latter system is ofcourse cheaper.
You can tell which one it is by looking at the programmes. The newer ones have a spin only cycle. The older ones weren't able to do a spin without a drum full of water, so the older ones only had a rinse and spin cycle, no spin only cycle on those machines.
The newer ones start spinning at a low speed and keep doing that until they move on to the next increment on the timer. The drum is empty by then and the machine can easily increase the spin speed now. The latter system is ofcourse cheaper.
You can tell which one it is by looking at the programmes. The newer ones have a spin only cycle. The older ones weren't able to do a spin without a drum full of water, so the older ones only had a rinse and spin cycle, no spin only cycle on those machines.
candyd10_14x
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"spin-only" spin-drainers
Hi Foraloysius! Interesting, the older models attempted high speed whilst spinning water??? I bet that wasn't good for the motors, or were they built to withstand the strain?
I'm not sure which model it is but I think it's the Indesit L6 which has a spin cycle but it says not to use it for "spin-only", what would happen if you were to use it for spin-only, would the machine just shoot straight into spin causing the load to attach itself to one side of the drum?
Brandon
Hi Foraloysius! Interesting, the older models attempted high speed whilst spinning water??? I bet that wasn't good for the motors, or were they built to withstand the strain?
I'm not sure which model it is but I think it's the Indesit L6 which has a spin cycle but it says not to use it for "spin-only", what would happen if you were to use it for spin-only, would the machine just shoot straight into spin causing the load to attach itself to one side of the drum?
Brandon
paulc
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Brandon,
If my memory serves me right the Indesit L6 and L10 were not a spin drain models. The L8 and L5 variants were but only span at 380rpm. Later BOL spin drain Indesits span at 400rpm........very entertaining to watch.
If my memory serves me right the Indesit L6 and L10 were not a spin drain models. The L8 and L5 variants were but only span at 380rpm. Later BOL spin drain Indesits span at 400rpm........very entertaining to watch.
candyd10_14x
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L6
Oh my mistake, might have been an L5, or 091, whichever one it was, it was one of the "Self-cleaning" pump model indesits.
Cheers, Brandon
Oh my mistake, might have been an L5, or 091, whichever one it was, it was one of the "Self-cleaning" pump model indesits.
Cheers, Brandon
hotpointfan
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Paul
How do to you too!
How does that spin drain system work? I'm guessing that it drains a little bit of water out of the final rinse and starts distributing whilst draining at the same time? As an older machine I expect it uses a lot of water gor the final rinse so it must be entertaining to watch!
Thanks
How do to you too!
How does that spin drain system work? I'm guessing that it drains a little bit of water out of the final rinse and starts distributing whilst draining at the same time? As an older machine I expect it uses a lot of water gor the final rinse so it must be entertaining to watch!
Thanks
paulc
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Hotpointfan,
The spin drain on Indesits works as follows: The drain pump is attached and driven by the motor but only reaches the speed to pump out when the machine kicks into spin, see posted youtube link.As you can see the water level just comes to the door boot in these machines and you will notice no faffing about distributing the load, goes from tumble to spin in one jump. As for water usage I am not sure but they did do five rinses to make up for the poor interim spin speed. If you owned one of these machines in the UK you almost certainly needed a separate spinner as you could wring water out of most things after the final spin. Hope that helps.
Brandon, the L5 is the model shown in this clip, but there are video's of the later 091 and 092 on youtube.
The spin drain on Indesits works as follows: The drain pump is attached and driven by the motor but only reaches the speed to pump out when the machine kicks into spin, see posted youtube link.As you can see the water level just comes to the door boot in these machines and you will notice no faffing about distributing the load, goes from tumble to spin in one jump. As for water usage I am not sure but they did do five rinses to make up for the poor interim spin speed. If you owned one of these machines in the UK you almost certainly needed a separate spinner as you could wring water out of most things after the final spin. Hope that helps.
Brandon, the L5 is the model shown in this clip, but there are video's of the later 091 and 092 on youtube.
Spin Drain....
Cushions the clothes against the sides of the drum, tends to get them more even for better stability, flushes out any final residues as well.....AND is great to watch!!!
The motors where small but powerful Permag motors (Permenant Magnet Motors) with a ten yr guarantee back in the 80`s...
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Cushions the clothes against the sides of the drum, tends to get them more even for better stability, flushes out any final residues as well.....AND is great to watch!!!
The motors where small but powerful Permag motors (Permenant Magnet Motors) with a ten yr guarantee back in the 80`s...
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docker
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Indesit Spin Drain
The Indesit spin drain machines have the drain hose routed inside the machine & exit at the top to ensure that the water can't syphon out in wash mode. My daily driver, a 1979 Indesit L8LI speeds up as the water drains out. It has a long spin (+/- 7 min) after the main wash, short spin (50 sec) after rinses I - IV) and long spin after rinse V. The later 091 & 092 machines spun at 550 rpm.
The Indesit spin drain machines have the drain hose routed inside the machine & exit at the top to ensure that the water can't syphon out in wash mode. My daily driver, a 1979 Indesit L8LI speeds up as the water drains out. It has a long spin (+/- 7 min) after the main wash, short spin (50 sec) after rinses I - IV) and long spin after rinse V. The later 091 & 092 machines spun at 550 rpm.
candyd10_14x
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Hi paul! thanks, it does seem interesting how the machine doesn't get unbalanced!
I've also found another model that I think was supposed to look like the Indesit L5, it's a HAJDU Bio Superautomat.
Brandon
I've also found another model that I think was supposed to look like the Indesit L5, it's a HAJDU Bio Superautomat.
Brandon
candyd10_14x
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Mike, how fast does the Philips speed up to after the spin drain? Is it 1000rpm?
