8/18 to 9/17, 31 days
1,615 KWH used
$167.66
Toss out your figures!
1,615 KWH used
$167.66
Toss out your figures!
Electric Bill Comparison
- Thread starter DADoES
- Start date
Oh yeah -- state if all-electric, or electric/gas.
100% electric here.
100% electric here.
Aug 13 - Sept 9
455kwh at 6.248/kwh $28.43
admin charge $4.06
dely charge $21.18
tax $3.75
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$57.42 Cdn
haven't got the gas bill yet
that'll be the scary one..lol
455kwh at 6.248/kwh $28.43
admin charge $4.06
dely charge $21.18
tax $3.75
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$57.42 Cdn
haven't got the gas bill yet
that'll be the scary one..lol
I do have the gas bill
Aug 19 - Sept 19 gas bill
Aug 19 - Aug 31 cost of gas 7.518 x 1.9 GJ = $14.98
Aug 31 - Sep 19 cost of gas 9.983 x 3.0 GJ = $29.95
subtotals....
admin fee $5.19
admin fee variable? .07 c
cost of gas $49.49
tax $3.49
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total 52.96 plus
$18.28 delivery charge
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grand total $71.24 CDN
So I used $49.49 worth of gas and get bille $71.24 with all the add ons
yikes.
Aug 19 - Sept 19 gas bill
Aug 19 - Aug 31 cost of gas 7.518 x 1.9 GJ = $14.98
Aug 31 - Sep 19 cost of gas 9.983 x 3.0 GJ = $29.95
subtotals....
admin fee $5.19
admin fee variable? .07 c
cost of gas $49.49
tax $3.49
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total 52.96 plus
$18.28 delivery charge
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grand total $71.24 CDN
So I used $49.49 worth of gas and get bille $71.24 with all the add ons
yikes.
you can see on my gas bill the price jumped mid billing from 7 cents to 9 cents, it's supposed to go up to 12 cents for october..fortunately alberta is reimbursing everyone $400 cash to off set it plus they'll be giving rebates if the price goes over 12 cents starting november.
I thought my power bill would be higher, but I've switched nearly all the lighting in the house now to fluoresents, turned the fridge down as much as possible. For the gas, I've turned the water heater way down, still good for a shower
I thought my power bill would be higher, but I've switched nearly all the lighting in the house now to fluoresents, turned the fridge down as much as possible. For the gas, I've turned the water heater way down, still good for a shower
jmirawm
Well-known member
Electric Bill
8/23 to 9/22<p>1282KWH<p>Current Bill 113.81 <p>average billing payment due $86.00<p>Total Electric
8/23 to 9/22<p>1282KWH<p>Current Bill 113.81 <p>average billing payment due $86.00<p>Total Electric
toggleswitch
Well-known member
Long Island Power authority; supplier
07/27/2005 actual reading 23,582
05/23/2005 actuial reading 20,663
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KWH used in 65 days 2,919
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Basic service: 65days @ $0.179= $ 11.64
242 KWH @ $0.1249 = $ 67.70
2377 KWH @ $0.1344 = $319.47
Excess Fuel Cost Surcharge = $103.92
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Delivery & Supply Subtotal $502.73
PILOTS (pmt on defunct nuke) $ 15.86
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G R A N D T O T A L : $518.59
which rounds to $260/month
Heat and hot water are oil-fired
dryer and 2nd stove is gas
90% of cooking is electric
BBQ is propane
http://www.lipower.org/
07/27/2005 actual reading 23,582
05/23/2005 actuial reading 20,663
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KWH used in 65 days 2,919
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Basic service: 65days @ $0.179= $ 11.64
242 KWH @ $0.1249 = $ 67.70
2377 KWH @ $0.1344 = $319.47
Excess Fuel Cost Surcharge = $103.92
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Delivery & Supply Subtotal $502.73
PILOTS (pmt on defunct nuke) $ 15.86
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G R A N D T O T A L : $518.59
which rounds to $260/month
Heat and hot water are oil-fired
dryer and 2nd stove is gas
90% of cooking is electric
BBQ is propane
http://www.lipower.org/
toggleswitch
Well-known member
Keyspan- Natural gas supplier
The natural gas bill is $12 per month on the budget plan.
Only the dryer and the back-up second stove uses this fuel.
of that charge $7 is for th eprivilegs of hvign th serice and a meter. The balance is usage.
To run a dryer electrically here:
consumption (avg) 2.5 KWH
KWH charge $0.18
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TOTAL is $0.45 per load
so say $.050 (half a dollar.)
6 loads per week X 4.33 weeks per month = 25 loads per month.
25/2 = $12.50
Cost works out the same for me with either energy source.
BUT if I had antoher gas using appliance, the meter charge(fixed cost) would be relatively, and gas would therefore be much cheaper than electric.
http://www.keyspanenergy.com/
The natural gas bill is $12 per month on the budget plan.
Only the dryer and the back-up second stove uses this fuel.
of that charge $7 is for th eprivilegs of hvign th serice and a meter. The balance is usage.
To run a dryer electrically here:
consumption (avg) 2.5 KWH
KWH charge $0.18
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TOTAL is $0.45 per load
so say $.050 (half a dollar.)
6 loads per week X 4.33 weeks per month = 25 loads per month.
25/2 = $12.50
Cost works out the same for me with either energy source.
BUT if I had antoher gas using appliance, the meter charge(fixed cost) would be relatively, and gas would therefore be much cheaper than electric.
http://www.keyspanenergy.com/
toggleswitch
Well-known member
Fuel oil
The 12 month budget payment is $177
or $2,125 for the year.
divided by a 7 month heating season, that becomes $300 per month for heat. (ignoring hot water costs).
The house is a 1,200 square foot cape-cod. (read: small)
$2,125 per year @ $2.25 per gallon implies a usage of : 950gallons per year.
The 12 month budget payment is $177
or $2,125 for the year.
divided by a 7 month heating season, that becomes $300 per month for heat. (ignoring hot water costs).
The house is a 1,200 square foot cape-cod. (read: small)
$2,125 per year @ $2.25 per gallon implies a usage of : 950gallons per year.
toggleswitch
Well-known member
monthly energy costs then are
$145 electric budget
$177 oil budget
$ 12 gas budget
$ 20 water
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$354 total
where the budget plan is a year-round figure
$145 electric budget
$177 oil budget
$ 12 gas budget
$ 20 water
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$354 total
where the budget plan is a year-round figure
hoover1060
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for suburban Chicago a month:
Summer:
Natural Gas: $43.00(dryer, stove, water heater)
Electric: $70.00
Water: $26.00
Winter:
Natural Gas: $125.00(add heat!)
Electric: $15-20.00( I have compact florscent bulbs all over the house)
Water: $25-30.00
Summer:
Natural Gas: $43.00(dryer, stove, water heater)
Electric: $70.00
Water: $26.00
Winter:
Natural Gas: $125.00(add heat!)
Electric: $15-20.00( I have compact florscent bulbs all over the house)
Water: $25-30.00
repair-man
Well-known member
08/05/05 to 09/06/05
32 days
1164 kWh
$118.76 total bill
when you subtract out the $7 monthly cust charge it comes to about 9.5 cents kWh
BTW my gas bill last winter averaged $150/ month, about $40 in non heat months.
home heat, water heat, and dryer are natural gas
Toggle, now we see why you say "fundsRlow" (I know you spelled it different than that but I'm to lazy to go back and look)
32 days
1164 kWh
$118.76 total bill
when you subtract out the $7 monthly cust charge it comes to about 9.5 cents kWh
BTW my gas bill last winter averaged $150/ month, about $40 in non heat months.
home heat, water heat, and dryer are natural gas
Toggle, now we see why you say "fundsRlow" (I know you spelled it different than that but I'm to lazy to go back and look)
Are you ready to #%$@ a gold brick?
Talk about your sticker shock.....here is the bill that I just paid for 8/21-9/21/05:
Electric: KWH used 4543 $436.38
Gas: $ 65.09
We have two central a/c units, 3 window units (sheds and sunroom) and our hot water heater and dryer are gas.
If my utilities continue to skyrocket like this, I'm going to have to swap out the Tide with Bleach for Brand X! OY!
Venus
Talk about your sticker shock.....here is the bill that I just paid for 8/21-9/21/05:
Electric: KWH used 4543 $436.38
Gas: $ 65.09
We have two central a/c units, 3 window units (sheds and sunroom) and our hot water heater and dryer are gas.
If my utilities continue to skyrocket like this, I'm going to have to swap out the Tide with Bleach for Brand X! OY!
Venus
Gas & Water...
Metro Utilities District (MUD - public owned utility)
Gas, Water, Sewer
15 Days 23.477 therms @ .08735 = $20.51
15 Days 23.477 therms @ 1.0802 = 25.36
Service charge 10.00
Total 55.87
Water 4488 gallons 20.51
Sewer 9.93
Total Bill $78.85
Monthly Budge Payment Plan $151.00
Metro Utilities District (MUD - public owned utility)
Gas, Water, Sewer
15 Days 23.477 therms @ .08735 = $20.51
15 Days 23.477 therms @ 1.0802 = 25.36
Service charge 10.00
Total 55.87
Water 4488 gallons 20.51
Sewer 9.93
Total Bill $78.85
Monthly Budge Payment Plan $151.00
OMG!
Wow, I'm going to quit b***hing about mine. I have 2100 sqft, 2 central units, all electric. The water heater and downstairs furnace are original to the house (1968), the furnace is a "Singer" using the same script as the sewing machines. The highest bill I've had in 8 years of living there has been $298. It averages between $100-$200. My water bill is usually between $30-$40, and that includes sanitation pickup.
Thanks for the reality check.
Wow, I'm going to quit b***hing about mine. I have 2100 sqft, 2 central units, all electric. The water heater and downstairs furnace are original to the house (1968), the furnace is a "Singer" using the same script as the sewing machines. The highest bill I've had in 8 years of living there has been $298. It averages between $100-$200. My water bill is usually between $30-$40, and that includes sanitation pickup.
Thanks for the reality check.
bethann
New member
electric bill
8/23 - 9/22
128.21
gas bill
38.22
8/23 - 9/22
128.21
gas bill
38.22
toggleswitch
Well-known member
NICE BILLS!
Venus:
If I ever come to visit I'll order multiple 50 pound blocks of ice and have a local carve chairs our of them.
DAMN! We need to give your compressors a rest!
BTW=> PEAK heating bill last Feb. was $500.
It was in the teens by day and below by night.
People who have had homes for 30 years were crying up a storm!
Venus:
If I ever come to visit I'll order multiple 50 pound blocks of ice and have a local carve chairs our of them.
DAMN! We need to give your compressors a rest!
BTW=> PEAK heating bill last Feb. was $500.
It was in the teens by day and below by night.
People who have had homes for 30 years were crying up a storm!
bethann
New member
Oh ya
Venus: You'd better get Austin out caulking the windows! Geez!
Venus: You'd better get Austin out caulking the windows! Geez!
NSP Bill (Northern States Power)
Wow, I can't believe how expensive some of your electric bills are!!!
Here is our bill from NSP (Northern States Power), gas is seperate.
We used the AC about 50% of the time during this period.
Electric Charges Usage Period: 08/16/05 to 09/15/05
Residential Service 30 Days
Basic Service Chg $4.59
Total Usage: 807 kWh
Energy Charge Summer Rates 807 kWh @ $0.075894 $61.25
Fuel Cost Adjustment 807 @ $0.015551 $12.55
Resource Adjustment $1.32
Subtotal $79.71
City Fees @5.00% $3.98
City Tax @0.50% $0.41
State Tax @6.50% $5.44
Total Amount $89.54
Our highest bill was around $100 for Mid July thru Mid Aug.
Wow, I can't believe how expensive some of your electric bills are!!!
Here is our bill from NSP (Northern States Power), gas is seperate.
We used the AC about 50% of the time during this period.
Electric Charges Usage Period: 08/16/05 to 09/15/05
Residential Service 30 Days
Basic Service Chg $4.59
Total Usage: 807 kWh
Energy Charge Summer Rates 807 kWh @ $0.075894 $61.25
Fuel Cost Adjustment 807 @ $0.015551 $12.55
Resource Adjustment $1.32
Subtotal $79.71
City Fees @5.00% $3.98
City Tax @0.50% $0.41
State Tax @6.50% $5.44
Total Amount $89.54
Our highest bill was around $100 for Mid July thru Mid Aug.
magic clean
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FPL not too bad....yet
For total electric 2500 sq. ft. home 8-3 through 9-1. a/c @ 77f, 24/7. $204.66 for 2108 kwh. 6-8 loads or laundry per week, 4-5 dishwasher loads per week, with light cooking. Meaning cooktop and oven in use less than an hour daily. Utility is warning that rates will go up thanks to hurricanes and increased production costs etc.
For total electric 2500 sq. ft. home 8-3 through 9-1. a/c @ 77f, 24/7. $204.66 for 2108 kwh. 6-8 loads or laundry per week, 4-5 dishwasher loads per week, with light cooking. Meaning cooktop and oven in use less than an hour daily. Utility is warning that rates will go up thanks to hurricanes and increased production costs etc.
Hot West Texas Weather . . .
For my 2 bedroom/2 bathroom duplex (1110 sq. ft), my utilities were:
Gas (Furnace and Water Heater):
8/4/05-9/7/05
$24.97
Electric & Water (On same bill) (8/16/05-9/19/05)
Electric:
Previous Reading: 90211
Present Reading: 91800
Consumption: 1589 KWH
Sub-Total $139.03
Water: $16.83
Taxes, Fees, Sewage and Garbage: $29.79
Total Bill: $185.65
Total Utilities: $210.62
What's sad about this is I'm single, live alone, and I'm NEVER home! I keep my A/C at 70 degrees all day long. I guess I need to start adjusting the thermostat when I leave the house every morning.
Tex
For my 2 bedroom/2 bathroom duplex (1110 sq. ft), my utilities were:
Gas (Furnace and Water Heater):
8/4/05-9/7/05
$24.97
Electric & Water (On same bill) (8/16/05-9/19/05)
Electric:
Previous Reading: 90211
Present Reading: 91800
Consumption: 1589 KWH
Sub-Total $139.03
Water: $16.83
Taxes, Fees, Sewage and Garbage: $29.79
Total Bill: $185.65
Total Utilities: $210.62
What's sad about this is I'm single, live alone, and I'm NEVER home! I keep my A/C at 70 degrees all day long. I guess I need to start adjusting the thermostat when I leave the house every morning.
Tex
Tex,
Programmable thermostats are the best thing I ever put in the house. It turns the air conditioning up to 85 when we are not there and the heat down to 60. I have them set to go to normal temps about a hour before we get home. It works really well, and I noticed a big drop in the power bill the first month after I installed them.
Programmable thermostats are the best thing I ever put in the house. It turns the air conditioning up to 85 when we are not there and the heat down to 60. I have them set to go to normal temps about a hour before we get home. It works really well, and I noticed a big drop in the power bill the first month after I installed them.
Geeze I can't believe how little electricity I'm using compared to everyone else. I don't have a/c so that may be a good part of it. How many of you have converted most if not all of your lighting to compact fluoresents etc? I like the fact that I can have about 4 or 5 of them turned on for the consumption of about 1 75watt regular light bulb.
toggleswitch
Well-known member
Nothiong like a programmable clock-thermostat.
Bryan / Tex:
70*F all day? OMG my bills woudl be astronomical!
Summer:
Mine is at 77*F when occupied and 85*F when not.
Dehumidifier runs in basement spring, summer and fall 10pm to 10am. (It gets cool here at night but the high humidity makes if feel like "H" "E" double hockey stix.)
Winter:
Settings are 70*F when occupied and 60*F when not.
The basement is kept at 64*F all winter to keep the floors warm. (and the birds alive!) Luckily my house doesn't need much heat till it gets below 40*F
Bryan / Tex:
70*F all day? OMG my bills woudl be astronomical!
Summer:
Mine is at 77*F when occupied and 85*F when not.
Dehumidifier runs in basement spring, summer and fall 10pm to 10am. (It gets cool here at night but the high humidity makes if feel like "H" "E" double hockey stix.)
Winter:
Settings are 70*F when occupied and 60*F when not.
The basement is kept at 64*F all winter to keep the floors warm. (and the birds alive!) Luckily my house doesn't need much heat till it gets below 40*F
Thermostats
I've had a programmable 'stat for YEARS. Added a retro-fit for the Honeywell "Round One" at my first apt. It had very primitive programming, but worked well enough. Put the original back when I moved out, still have that programmable stashed in a drawer somewhere.
Then installed a deluxe White-Rodgers at my first house. Liked that one a lot. It allowed the blower to be programmed for on or auto in each setback period. Gave it to my sister when I replaced the A/C system with a Lennox heat pump, which required a specific 'stat for being a heat pump.
New house has a programmable Carrier on the heat pump.
And yes, contrary to popular belief, setback thermostats CAN be used with heat pumps, if they are specific for that application. Those 'stats have a special ramp-up recovery function that raises the heat temp slowly over about 1.5 to 1 hour time so as to not trigger the auxiliary unnecessarily. I found (in both cases of old house and new house) that the auxiliary still was triggering for a short time at the end of the recovery period. But ... Lennox and Carrier have an optional outdoor temp sensor that serves both to display the outdoor temp on the 'stat, and to lock-out the auxiliary unless the ambient is lower than a specific (adjustable) temperature. So that solved that issue.
I've had a programmable 'stat for YEARS. Added a retro-fit for the Honeywell "Round One" at my first apt. It had very primitive programming, but worked well enough. Put the original back when I moved out, still have that programmable stashed in a drawer somewhere.
Then installed a deluxe White-Rodgers at my first house. Liked that one a lot. It allowed the blower to be programmed for on or auto in each setback period. Gave it to my sister when I replaced the A/C system with a Lennox heat pump, which required a specific 'stat for being a heat pump.
New house has a programmable Carrier on the heat pump.
And yes, contrary to popular belief, setback thermostats CAN be used with heat pumps, if they are specific for that application. Those 'stats have a special ramp-up recovery function that raises the heat temp slowly over about 1.5 to 1 hour time so as to not trigger the auxiliary unnecessarily. I found (in both cases of old house and new house) that the auxiliary still was triggering for a short time at the end of the recovery period. But ... Lennox and Carrier have an optional outdoor temp sensor that serves both to display the outdoor temp on the 'stat, and to lock-out the auxiliary unless the ambient is lower than a specific (adjustable) temperature. So that solved that issue.
toggleswitch
Well-known member
That's really using power....
Venus:
Just HOW big is your unit?
4543 KWH
divided by 30 days is
151.43 KWH per day.
divided by 24 hours, that is 6.31 KWH per hour.
YOU ARE USING AN AVERAGE OF 6,310 watts per hour. Constantly.
6,310 watts divided by 220 volts is 28.68 amps so figure a double pole 30-amp line.
*GULP*
Venus:
Just HOW big is your unit?
4543 KWH
divided by 30 days is
151.43 KWH per day.
divided by 24 hours, that is 6.31 KWH per hour.
YOU ARE USING AN AVERAGE OF 6,310 watts per hour. Constantly.
6,310 watts divided by 220 volts is 28.68 amps so figure a double pole 30-amp line.
*GULP*
Maybe she's keeping the RCI-59 hot-and-ready 24/7?
Maybe it's Austin using the dishwashers, washers and vacuums!
Can't Wait For Winter!
Toggle:
I used to live in a much bigger, older house (with poor insulation) before moving to the duplex. There, I would HAVE to keep the thermostat at 76 degrees during the summer, and even then my electric bill was close to $300/month from about June to September.
DADoES/jaxsunst: Thanks for the advice. I have thought about getting a programmable thermostat, but have hesitated because I am currently renting. I think it would save quite a bit of money, however, to do so, so I just may go to Home Depot this weekend and check them out.
TBH, I am VERY READY for winter. I only turn my heater on MAYBE 10 times during the winter. The rest of the time my house stays between 60-65 degrees, which is PERFECT for me. I'd much rather sit under a blanket or wear a sweater in the winter as opposed to turning the heater on. The summer, however, is a different story. This big boy NEEDS A/C! If I had my way, I would keep it around 65 in the summer, but that would be just a tad too expensive! (Okay, maybe a LITTE more than a TAD!)
Tex
Toggle:
I used to live in a much bigger, older house (with poor insulation) before moving to the duplex. There, I would HAVE to keep the thermostat at 76 degrees during the summer, and even then my electric bill was close to $300/month from about June to September.
DADoES/jaxsunst: Thanks for the advice. I have thought about getting a programmable thermostat, but have hesitated because I am currently renting. I think it would save quite a bit of money, however, to do so, so I just may go to Home Depot this weekend and check them out.
TBH, I am VERY READY for winter. I only turn my heater on MAYBE 10 times during the winter. The rest of the time my house stays between 60-65 degrees, which is PERFECT for me. I'd much rather sit under a blanket or wear a sweater in the winter as opposed to turning the heater on. The summer, however, is a different story. This big boy NEEDS A/C! If I had my way, I would keep it around 65 in the summer, but that would be just a tad too expensive! (Okay, maybe a LITTE more than a TAD!)
Tex
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