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I would love to have one of these machines! They look very interesting. They also dont seem to have the same problems as the Fisher and Paykel Water Smart. (Same as the Oasis) That machine has polarised opinion. Many people complain about the lint that (Fisher and Paykel) machine produces. Interestingly the Electrolux and Simpson have lint filters in the agitator.
 
We have the AquaSmart. I prefer it to WaterAid for the bigger drum space as we often wash doonas and the like.

We have had some minor problems with lint but that is usually because SOMEONE (points finger at other household member) doesnt load it properly and uses too little detergent.

Ironically my school bought the Electrolux WaterAid and it would not work new out of the box.
 
Shanon, Shame that the Electrolux didnt work out of the box. :(

However that could of happened to any machine and what I am interested in here is the design of the wateraid. In my humble opinion it is seems to address the issue of washing and using less water better than the Aquasmart. However Fisher and Paykel spend big money on marketing and their products subsequently recieve a lot of attention and the design of the Aquasmart has polarised a lot of people. (Check out the Choice website for some comments)

I may be missing something but I cant understand how detergent use can have an affect on linting. I thought that linting was small fibres being removed from clothes as part of the washing process. Yet it seems that technicians, in response to complaints about linting, advise that you change to liquid detergent etc.

Perhaps anyone who has experience with the Aquasmart/Oasis/Cabrio could fill me in.
 
Detergent and Linting

Here is what I understand with my limited knowledge on the subject.

I know even on my Maytag TL manual it says linting can be caused from Overloading, or too little detergent.

Detergent will hold the lint in suspension and prevent it from re-depositing. If you use too little, you end up with lint problems. If you use too much, you have a Brady Bunch episode.
 
Yup... As above Ash...

I do have one gripe which I do know comes from the Low Profile Agitator which is tangling... The following pic is 4 long sleeved Woolworths shirts... 3 minutes into the wash... Our old Maytag didn't tangle like this... On the other hand the old Maytag didnt remove the chicken juice/meat/seasoning/fat/grease stains.

Gotta love Deli lmao
 
Yeesh... Apologies for that big pic... iPhone apologises about the quality (or lack there of).

Ash... Also yeah I can sorta understand why the WaterAid would be the more "logical" choice to buy... Using traditional agitation combined with the whole water saving junk... We got AquaSmart mainly for three reasons...

1. Low Profile Agitator because as mentioned above we often wash bulky doonas, Cat beds, Pillows and stuffed toys. Its nice to have the extra space IMHO.

2. We like the flexibility and extra programs and settings (not to mention the LCD).

3. We didn't want an agitator because the Maytag seemed to go on a shredding spree occasionally and we dont like the pulsators (LG and the like...)

As for F&p spending heaps of money on advertising... You are joking right? That doesn't sound like them =P
 
Low profile agitator vs pulsator

Hi Shanon,
What would be the main difference between your F.P. low profile agitator and the traditional type Asian pulsator,the reason I ask is we got the L.G. 8.5 kg Turbodrum about 5 months ago, and it seems to wash pretty well,we got it due to similar reason to yours i.e. large doona covers etc which were difficult to wash in the Haier T.T.,we learnt through experience and experimentation that tangling can be reduced and even avoided by washing a mixed load of clothes i.e. a few shirts,a few pants blouses etc, although I must add the 2 lint filters can be a bit of a bummer to clean out at times, so we do it after every wash when the lint has dried.
I also learnt that sometimes when selecting the normal cycle, it does not seem to take in enough water so I just increase the water level manually by pushing the key,however if you select the fuzzy cycle,the "i sensor", does seem to get it right.
You mention advertising, have you noticed that there does not really seem to be a lot of washer advertising on the television these days,unless I am watching the wrong channels.
Cheers Shanon,
Steve.
 
Steve... The main difference IMHO is the pulsator kinda "swirls" the clothes through the water. The LPA (Low Profile Agitator) seems to use less water to actually move the clothes through the water in the reverse to a normal agitator (down on the outside, up on the inside as opposed to normally up on the outside down on the inside.)

As for tangling... The example with the Woolies shirts is an extreme and actually did come out at the end of the Sheets cycle not as badly tangled as in the pic. The sheets cycles seems to be better as it puts in a large amount of water then drains to the right level. The Woolies shirts have to be washed by themselves to stop what chicken gunk they have clinging to them adhering to other laundry.

And yeah... Print advertising is pretty strong... TV seemed to stop a while ago...

Shan

 
Interesting reponses, thanks guys.

I wish I could by a Simpson Ezisensor to play around with and report my findings, but I really cannot justify buying a new washing machine at the moment.

It seems to me that surely large doonas would fit in the Simpson, the agitator post only visually takes up room, plus agitators do not tangle. But flat agitators of whatever variety seem popular and I wonder when Simpson or Electrolux will offer a similar model.

Appliance companies definately could market themselves better. They seem to limit print advertisements in home and garden magazines, I am sure that they could advertise in magazines such as Womens Weekly, so many more people would see the advertisments and brand recognition would me much higher.
 
this water saving design really looks interesting.

I like the design here. It places the water saving function basically on a pump, which is a simple and inexpensive piece to replace when it fails.

This is a really good idea. Can't wait until it hits the US market. Wonder how much water is used during a standard size wash/rinse cycle?
 
Depending on the capacity, around 70-90L per cycle. 7-10kg dry weight.

They are an international electrolux design, so there is no reason they wont turn up in the US.
 
Control the amount of water leaving the inner tub to the out

Uh,

I think it was once called a "Filter-Flo"?..!?...

(although even I have to admit, looks like the outer tub of the Electrolux wasn't as big as the freakin' bathtub the GE's used to have).
 

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