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Y'all can thank IBM for the idea of never having anything fully made anywhere.

They started that over 40 years ago with their electric typewriter. The idea is that parts are made all over the world, then *everyone* has to import something and assemble it. Originally, everyone imported parts and assembled the machine in their own country, so it was always seen as made locally.

Also, always be careful when you look at stuff. For the longest time, Subaru cars sold in US have been made in Indiana (if I'm not mistaken) and lots of GM cars came from Asia. So while I was being sneered at for "driving a 'japanese' car", the people giving me grief were driving foreign GM cars. Lovely.

As for Whirlpool, yes, the brand is american. At the very least their frontloader line was made in Germany (don't know if it's still true) and, with the ramping down on their non-HE toploaders, I wonder what exactly they'll be making here -- is their HE toploader *made* here or just assembled here, or even fully imported?

Meanwhile, brands like Bosh and Electrolux are *building* plants here and keeping American employees busy.

I would prefer all this racism went away. The reason a lot of stuff is made in Asia or elsewhere is threefold: one, people here want to buy stuff for less money, so the only option is to manufacture them where it's cheaper to do so; two, people here who are investors want more profit -- your options are either to become investors (not my preference personally, but other people may be rich enough to enter the game) or make clear to the investors that the population here is hurting; and three, the powers that be in America decided that they don't want to be a manufacturing country, they want to be the kind of country where there's basically only service and design -- lots of places design stuff and send the design away to be manufactured. That is not usually bad, lots of countries are getting rich doing the same. The catch is that to do that one has to be in the bleeding edge of design, and there aren't many companies (not to mention industries) in US doing that anymore. For a long time, US used to be the country where all the good ideas came from. We're lagging behind for some time now. My hope is that we'll fix that in the next few years, so the majority of the population here will be able to find nice office jobs -- it's either that or back to the farm and manufacturing jobs on the assembly floor, not that there's anything wrong with that, just that my impression is that most people here would prefer to earn more doing less in an office.

Peace,
-- Paulo.
 
The only thing I don't like about these washers is this: it appears the heater is only used to raise the temeprature of the wash water on the Sanitary/Deep Clean cycle. It appears the heater is not useed to maintain or bring up a few degrees to set point of either hot (120 or 130 degrees) or warm water (100 or 105 degrees) on any of the other cycles. Larry, maybe you can debunk that impression for me after ou get your upgraded machine.
 
These machines use the internal heater to boost the temperature.

They have preset temperatures according to the cycle. If the hot fill is colder than the preset temperature, it will use the heater to try to increase it. (but it may not reach the temperature as the heater is 110v and the wash isn't long enough.
if the hot water is too hot, it will mix with cold water.

On sanitary cycle, even if you fill it with cold water (turn off your water heater os just use all the hot water and turn on the machine before it has the time to recover) the machine will use the internal heater and increase the wash time until it can reach the sanitization temperature and keep it for some minutes. The cycle can be increased in 30 minutes or more, but you won't notice the change on the remaining time display.
The difference on display can be seen when you start the sanitary cycle with very hot water.
the demaining time will be reduced when the machine reaches the first drain. at home it happens with my affinity, and usually goes from 1:09 to 0:29.
 
Response - Maintaining Temp. via Electrolux.

I wrote to Electrolux about this subject (onboard heater used to maintain water temp.), back in February 09.
This was Electolux's response:

"Thank you for contacting Electrolux Major Appliances. We apologize for the delay in response. However our washer units are equipped with an internal heater and when the unit is operating on the sanitize cycle the heater maintains a set temperature of 152 degrees Fahrenheit.

Also, the unit has an automatic temperature control so when the unit is operating and using a cold water setting the heater will automatically turn on if the water drops below 65 degrees Fahrenheit.

When operating and using a warm water setting the heater will automatically turn on if the water drops below 78 degrees Fahrenheit.

When operating and using a hot water setting the heater will automatically turn on if the water temperature drops below 120 degrees Fahrenheit.

In closing the spin RPM for the Electrolux washer is 1350.
If you have any further questions about the appliances please contact us at 877-435-3287. We are available Monday through Friday from 8 a.m. until 8 p.m. EST. Thank you for considering Electrolux Major Appliances."
 
I'm doing a no load water test and the water level is incredible.
Thie rinse water fills up to the seal of the door on the Normal/Eco Cycle and the tumble rotation is a lot longer in each direction than the IQ washer.

I'm not satified with the paint. The IQ washer had a better finish on it where you can see the speckles, this is matted opaq finish, not rich in color like on the ped!
 
Larry does it look like the pedestal and the WaveTouch colors don't match or one looks more shiny? Is it that noticable?

So we have conformation...the WaveTouch totally uses more water. YES!

Can't wait for video and photos.
 
Larry said: "The IQ washer had a better finish on it where you can see the speckles, this is matted opaq finish, not rich in color like on the ped!"

Larry, that's impossible to believe and accept!!! The wave touch model is made to satisfy the VIP consumers. It's not an ordinary washing machine, it's the TOL model The Electrolux Group offers, not only in the US, but worldwide.

Something (very) wrong happened with your unit. The washing machine shouldn't pass the finishing QC if there's a color difference that can be detected by the lasers, and the lasers are much more accurate than human eyes.

Or...

Electrolux started to decrease the quality like "the other" manufacturer.

I think you should contact Electrolux or the store and ask them to replace it again. Also, try to visit a store or show room that has the same machine and compare.

I'm shocked to hear that after being part of a team that received many direct orders saying "everything on it must be much beter than the best"
 
It's no lie, the colors does not match at all,
At the base of the machine it looks like the prim is showing through.
Color is washed out with a white film on it!
I have a thirty day return window so Sears maybe getting a call tomorrow afternoon.
 
Rebates

Larry, Electrolux is offering a $200.00 on your machine and $50.00 on the pedestal. On the Electrolux website, click on support and Limited Time offers. Offer ends July 19, 2009. You will get a 250.00 Pre-paid Visa Card. I got a 500.00 one when I purchased my appliances last year.

Now if you buy the dryer, you will receive another 250.00.

I am sure Sears will straighten out the color differences in you appliance/pedestal.
 
If your not happy...

Larry, definitely swap out the machine if you're not liking the finish of the paint job. You should be happy with your purchase...it's just a pain to deal with.

It does sound like you are happy with the water usage amount.

Hopefully the paint issue is just a fluke.
Best of luck and looking forward to hear how well Sears handles this.

Like Ray said...don't forget the rebate form.

 
Larry. I think it was just a fluke like George said, I have seen both the models at many stores and they look the same, I am sure Sears will make good for it. Afterall, this machine uses much more water than any of the fron loaders out there.

Ray
 

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