ovrphil
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Alot to choose from - looks ok as is, wondering what gets their place?
Entire Ktichen " Antique, vintage kitchen cabinets, stove and dishwasher - $3000 (OBO)"
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norgeway
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Drop dead!
Georgeous!!!
Georgeous!!!
danemodsandy
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Not So Fast!
Those are exactly the Youngstown cabinets my mother had in her house for so many years, and I can tell you, they weren't such a much.
Rust was a problem, and so was disintegrating hardware. The latter problem was particularly problematic, inasmuch as the hinges and catches were proprietary, with no spares available after Youngstown went belly-up. The T-edging on the cabinet doors kept working loose into the bargain.
The dishwasher was retired almost immediately after my parents bought the place; its performance was not acceptable. My mother was accustomed to the performance of her existing Lady Kenmore, which I had bought her, and that went in place of the YK dishwasher.
If you are a careful person, a meticulous housekeeper, have repair skills and don't live in the Southeast's humidity, this kitchen might be okay. In Atlanta, GA, and on The Appliance Killer's watch, it was a disaster.
For part of the time my mother owned her YK kitchen, I had St. Charles, and there was no comparison. The paint jobs alone were so different you couldn't believe it.
Those are exactly the Youngstown cabinets my mother had in her house for so many years, and I can tell you, they weren't such a much.
Rust was a problem, and so was disintegrating hardware. The latter problem was particularly problematic, inasmuch as the hinges and catches were proprietary, with no spares available after Youngstown went belly-up. The T-edging on the cabinet doors kept working loose into the bargain.
The dishwasher was retired almost immediately after my parents bought the place; its performance was not acceptable. My mother was accustomed to the performance of her existing Lady Kenmore, which I had bought her, and that went in place of the YK dishwasher.
If you are a careful person, a meticulous housekeeper, have repair skills and don't live in the Southeast's humidity, this kitchen might be okay. In Atlanta, GA, and on The Appliance Killer's watch, it was a disaster.
For part of the time my mother owned her YK kitchen, I had St. Charles, and there was no comparison. The paint jobs alone were so different you couldn't believe it.
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ovrphil
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Robinsodm - thanks for adding that link - I guess espresso is needed in the morning, sometimes.
Robinsodm - thanks for adding that link - I guess espresso is needed in the morning, sometimes.
Is that the 30 inch DW?
danemodsandy
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Yep!
That's the 30-incher.
Spray tube DW, and therefore not the greatest performer, but if size matters, this one's got it.
That's the 30-incher.
Spray tube DW, and therefore not the greatest performer, but if size matters, this one's got it.
Sandy, you mention T-edging on the doors of the Youngstown cabinets your mother had. What was the purpose of that? All the doors I've seen have been all metal.
I certainly agree that they don't compare to St. Charles, but of course they cost nowhere near as much. We had Lyon cabinets in the kitchen, with the exception of one Youngstown, a 4 drawer unit. My parents brought it from the other house, in which a complete Youngstown kitchen had been installed in 1953. I will have to say it appeared to be better quality than the Lyon units. I still have it sitting in the garage, and have most of the Lyon cabinets at storage.
What year were hers made? The one I have from '53 says it was made by Mullins Mfg. Co. of Salem, OH. I've seen ones from the late 50's that made reference to being a division of American-Standard. Perhaps the quality diminished after ours were made.
I certainly agree that they don't compare to St. Charles, but of course they cost nowhere near as much. We had Lyon cabinets in the kitchen, with the exception of one Youngstown, a 4 drawer unit. My parents brought it from the other house, in which a complete Youngstown kitchen had been installed in 1953. I will have to say it appeared to be better quality than the Lyon units. I still have it sitting in the garage, and have most of the Lyon cabinets at storage.
What year were hers made? The one I have from '53 says it was made by Mullins Mfg. Co. of Salem, OH. I've seen ones from the late 50's that made reference to being a division of American-Standard. Perhaps the quality diminished after ours were made.
Cleaning a Stainless Steel Oven
Every time I see one of the Frigidaire flair stoves (or equivalent) with a stainless steel oven I wonder what they are like to clean. Some seem as shiny as they were new and others seem a little discolored. What are these like to clean? Do they have removable panels that make clean up easier?
I had a friend years ago who had one but she didn't cook much so hers were always shiny.
Every time I see one of the Frigidaire flair stoves (or equivalent) with a stainless steel oven I wonder what they are like to clean. Some seem as shiny as they were new and others seem a little discolored. What are these like to clean? Do they have removable panels that make clean up easier?
I had a friend years ago who had one but she didn't cook much so hers were always shiny.
danemodsandy
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Tom (CircleW):
Mom's Youngstown Kitchen dated from 1962, some years before she and Dad bought the house. Her cabinets were laminate-front; the bodies were steel.
The T-edging was used on Youngstown cabinets with laminate doors. The doors were not metal; they were MDF faced with laminate, and the T-edging trimmed the edges. It was an arrangement doomed to failure, and fail it did.
My St. Charles cabinets were "C"-Line cabinets in all-metal, but St. Charles did make cabinets faced in both wood and laminate. When they did, they always self-edged the doors and drawer fronts, meaning that a strip of veneer or laminate trimmed the edge; St. Charles did not use T-edging.
Mom's Youngstown Kitchen dated from 1962, some years before she and Dad bought the house. Her cabinets were laminate-front; the bodies were steel.
The T-edging was used on Youngstown cabinets with laminate doors. The doors were not metal; they were MDF faced with laminate, and the T-edging trimmed the edges. It was an arrangement doomed to failure, and fail it did.
My St. Charles cabinets were "C"-Line cabinets in all-metal, but St. Charles did make cabinets faced in both wood and laminate. When they did, they always self-edged the doors and drawer fronts, meaning that a strip of veneer or laminate trimmed the edge; St. Charles did not use T-edging.
norgeway
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St Charles Kitchens..
Were kind of like late 40s Packards, plain but much better quality, Youngstown stuff was pretty, all that chrome on the cabinet tops, I have Lyon in my laundry room and they are all right, there are 3 houses in my hometown in what was the high dollar neighborhood that all have solid stainless topped yellow St Charles cabinets with double wall oven, pushbutton cooktop GE appliances and Vent A Hoods! all were installed in the early 60s, they are absolutely the best kitchens I ever saw, the finish is not slick but kind of textured.
Were kind of like late 40s Packards, plain but much better quality, Youngstown stuff was pretty, all that chrome on the cabinet tops, I have Lyon in my laundry room and they are all right, there are 3 houses in my hometown in what was the high dollar neighborhood that all have solid stainless topped yellow St Charles cabinets with double wall oven, pushbutton cooktop GE appliances and Vent A Hoods! all were installed in the early 60s, they are absolutely the best kitchens I ever saw, the finish is not slick but kind of textured.
