My Whirlpool dishwasher

[maytaga806]

We have a five year old Maytag with a similar dispenser to what is on yours and it will make those loud clicks, the first one is the detergent cup popping open and then you’ll hear a shot in the final rinse when the rinse aid is dispensed. Completely normal.

 

[michaelz08]

D-todd, I was thinking about your mention of door handles. I haven't had an issue with WP handles getting lose, but in other applications I've applied blue loc-tite to such screws. That may help your situation.

 

[egress]

Jerome, to answer your question for what is hopefully the last time, I am pretty sure these use a wet rotor pump with a volute style turbine. I think WP has been using this style for a while. The maytag/kitchenaid microfilter systems use an induction motor. Both systems have roughly the same pressure output as far as I am aware.

If you would take the time to google the model number and look at a parts diagram, you'd answer your question yourself and we wouldn't have 5 unecessary posts in this thread.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

fish tank pumps

To me, these Whirlpool dishwashers sound like fish tank pumps when running. I miss their old AC motors. I am talking about their recirculation pumps.

 

[johnb300m]

The nice thing is, Jerome it doesn’t matter what they are to you. They are not fish tank pumps.
And they seem to wash perfectly, since many companies have used these wet rotor motors for a decade now.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

doesn't matter

If it doesn't matter, then why are there so many complaints about dishes being peed on and taking for hours to wash? I want a real dishwasher that blasts the dishes clean. It's not a Whirlpool power clean anymore which they should've left well enough alone. I bet these new dishwashers wouldn't even wet the floor if you had it running open! And don't even get me started about the roof not getting shot with water from the bottom arm alone, let alone stupid yibbles in the glasses.

 

[johnb300m]

Pure hallucinations by you Jerome.
You’re overlaying your own opinions on other people.
Granted some appliance quality has decreased over time, that’s not the wet rotor’s fault.
In fact, it’s probably the fault of goofy consumers who complain about long wash times, are the same ones who demand their dishwasher be no more than 35dB because they want it quiet (which they always misspell as Q U I T E in reviews).

 

[egress]

wet rotor pumps are very common in so many things these days. They come with a myriad of benefits, not the least of which being NO SHAFT SEAL TO FAIL!!!!! take that GE ^_^... These pumps develop plenty of pressure, more than enough to spray you in the eyes if you open the door too fast. ask me how I know .

There's a dishwasher triangle? pentagon? something or other. Like the one for products - you have cheap, fast, quiet, cleans well, and is spacious. you can't have all of em, so pick a few. Guarantee the average consumer wants cheap, quiet, and cleans well.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

egress and johnb300m

I wish there was a video of this type of dishwasher running with the machine empty without any dishes to test this theory. My Kenmore/Bosch could do better than that. It does have a bldc pump not that it matters. I prefer a powerful ac induction wash pump. Granted, it does clean well, and you can hear the water shooting the roof from both arms when empty and even full. It's the small things that count to me.

 

[johnb300m]

Jerome, without sounding mean or derogatory, there ARE plenty of videos out there showing modern dishwashers with wet rotor pumps, hitting their ceilings with water jets from the lower arms.
I’ve made videos of this myself.
You just choose to not believe reality because it disagrees with your warped emotions on appliances.

 

[mark_wpduet]

from the videos I've seen of dishwashers in action from the INSIDE with the camera on and lights... it doesn't looks me me like they're peeing on dishes... it looks like pretty decent spray action going on... Granted, it's not a hurricane in a box, but it's more that a small water fountain

Take my Maytag from 2014. Yes it's point voyager but I wouldn't say it sounds like a lot is going on inside...some sloshing as you'd expect... a low motor noise, etc. I'm not even sure that the db rating is on it... but I'm totally fine with the noise it makes... It's very subtle but you can hear it.

The peeing on dishes thing has been going on on this forum for YEARSSSS

 

[gelaundry4ever]

johnb300m

I certainly hope they're not peeing on dishes. I like hearing water shooting from the bottom arm to the roof alone. To me, that's what a dishwasher should do. I'm sure chetlaham would agree.[this post was last edited: 4/29/2025-15:56]

 

[Chetlaham]

Jerome, I agree. I want to hear both the bottom and upper rack spray arms hitting the roof of the dishwasher.

 

 

Cleaning is a function of 4 things: time, chemical energy, thermal energy and mechanical energy. Reduce one or more of these and the others must compensate. Reducing mechanical energy is a double whammy, in that despite having more capacity dishes take 3 times longer to get clean. When you reduce the size of the pump motor you loose the ability to grind and process food particles requiring various levels of pre-washing before hand.

 

A good dishwasher can rattle glasses and flip over plastic bowls in the top rack.

 

 

 

[gelaundry4ever]

Good dishwasher

Also, a good dishwasher will sound like a powerful storm and you could hear dishes rattle or water hitting against them rhythmically. I want my dishwasher vents so not only could I hear what's going on, but smell it too.

 

[michaelz08]

@d-todd, did you ever get around to running that service cycle to see what is making the noise?

 

[Chetlaham]

Dishwasher Vents

Many standard tub dishwashers had what were essentially self sealing vents in that the louvers would block air when sprayed with water. During drain however, the vent would let air pass through like any other open vent. Those vents were the best in that they did not rely on cams, levers or wax motors to open and close.

 

I miss the smell of detergent then rinse aid during pump out. I miss the small bursts of steam that would come out on Potscrubbers with a high inlet temp and with the Potscrubber button depressed, then the continuous sheet of steam during pump out. Dishwashers with blower assisted drying like Maytag Jetclean would cause a volcano of steam to come out of the vent when the fan first switched on.

 

Modern dishwashers with side vents IMO just ruin cabinets and their controls. 

 

 

[johnb300m]

You guys are absolutely ridiculous.
I am GLAD my dishwashers don’t rattle glass and flip stuff over anymore.
Do you have any idea how annoying and expensive that is?!
Growing up we had GE dishwashers and it was a constant issue of things getting flipped over, full of murky water and food crumbs.
On more than one occasion, a piece of my mom’s glassware would be broken in the dishwasher.
Do you know how happy she was when we got our Triton XL with the gentler spray?
She was ecstatic. No more wet icky flips. No more risk of broken wine glasses.

And as a dishware own myself, I also appreciate it.

It’s why I put a voyager middle arm in my powerclean. The Tupperware flipping was ridiculous.

You two are ridiculous.
Thank goodness appliance companies won’t be hiring you.

 

[Chetlaham]

And the solution to that is proper loading, clips, press down tins and utility baskets.

 

Waiting for a dishwasher to do 3+ hours of washing while leaving food bits at the bottom of the machine only to become smelly overtime is ridiculous.

 

You're absolutely right appliance companies won't be hiring anyone who thinks like me and Jerome when people want quiet, capacity, sleek new looks, gliding racks, cleaning, drying, soil handling, reliability, durability, longevity and serviceability in roughly that order. 

 

 

A machine that can clean in circles in less than an hour will never be seen as a serious contender in the eyes of the public when it can be heard running or can't fit  the whole china cabinet.

 

[appnut]

Well, it's a lesson in what the market will bear, not necessarily what a designer wanats to shove onto the market.

 

[qsd-dan]

It’s why I put a voyager middle arm in my powerclean.

Is that compatible the other direction?

Maybe I can turn the upper rack performance in my PV from totally miserable to half way decent with a PC upper wash arm.