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KM 800 Gas Dryer
Roberts NEW KM gas dryer should have a direct spark ignition modulating flame 25,000 BUT burner. For anyone that has not seen one of the modulating burners work you are missing out on the best burner system ever put in a gas dryer, AND only Kenmore ever had it. There were only a hand full of WP gas dryers and gas combos that ever got this feature.
With this burner the flame comes on a full 25,000 BUTs and an exhaust sensor bulb that is filled with a freon like gas heats up as the clothes dry. This building gas pressure in the bulb exerts pressure on a needle in side the gas burners main orifice to reduce the flow of gas, but the flame never goes out completely until the dryer gets to the cool down. The flame will actually tapper down to around just 3,000 BTUs but the heat is constant as the clothing finishes drying. With this system it is much liking on your stove top where you reduce the heat as the cooking process continues, rather than turning the heat on full blast and then turning it off and on off and on etc.
Roberts NEW KM gas dryer should have a direct spark ignition modulating flame 25,000 BUT burner. For anyone that has not seen one of the modulating burners work you are missing out on the best burner system ever put in a gas dryer, AND only Kenmore ever had it. There were only a hand full of WP gas dryers and gas combos that ever got this feature.
With this burner the flame comes on a full 25,000 BUTs and an exhaust sensor bulb that is filled with a freon like gas heats up as the clothes dry. This building gas pressure in the bulb exerts pressure on a needle in side the gas burners main orifice to reduce the flow of gas, but the flame never goes out completely until the dryer gets to the cool down. The flame will actually tapper down to around just 3,000 BTUs but the heat is constant as the clothing finishes drying. With this system it is much liking on your stove top where you reduce the heat as the cooking process continues, rather than turning the heat on full blast and then turning it off and on off and on etc.
Thanks John for the information and the description of operation.
I have to agree with you on it being the best, and most logical for gas dryers.
Do you know why they quit using this type of system?
Doesn't some of the modern GE Gas dryers have this type of modulation burner? Seems like Robert's Harmony Dryer had one. I remember he had to replace the gas valve not long after he bought his set.
Brent
I have to agree with you on it being the best, and most logical for gas dryers.
Do you know why they quit using this type of system?
Doesn't some of the modern GE Gas dryers have this type of modulation burner? Seems like Robert's Harmony Dryer had one. I remember he had to replace the gas valve not long after he bought his set.
Brent
The set has been spoken for, I knew it wouldn't take long. lol, they are pretty!
Kenmore Washer
Robert,
I have been looking for an image for this washer for quite some time!!! We had the exact same washer....a suds saver in white. I remember the amber/reddish filter light and the timer dial had a light, too. We had purchased this from the old Sears in Highland Park, Michigan sometime in later part of the summer of 1968. Our prior Kenmore (1962) did not survive a horrible basement flood in the summer of 1967. We let it dry out for some time after the clean-up. It broke down less than a year later.
One unusual thing I remember about this model is that sometimes it seemed that there was a slight pause between the rinse fill and agitation. The filter light would come on and it would begin the deep rinse agitation. A great find. A great machine. Just seeing the picture awoke part of my brain that had been sleeping. Thanks again for sharing these treasures.
Robert,
I have been looking for an image for this washer for quite some time!!! We had the exact same washer....a suds saver in white. I remember the amber/reddish filter light and the timer dial had a light, too. We had purchased this from the old Sears in Highland Park, Michigan sometime in later part of the summer of 1968. Our prior Kenmore (1962) did not survive a horrible basement flood in the summer of 1967. We let it dry out for some time after the clean-up. It broke down less than a year later.
One unusual thing I remember about this model is that sometimes it seemed that there was a slight pause between the rinse fill and agitation. The filter light would come on and it would begin the deep rinse agitation. A great find. A great machine. Just seeing the picture awoke part of my brain that had been sleeping. Thanks again for sharing these treasures.
Hi Neal,
Welcome to our club! I know you were writing Robert, but I thought I'd chime in an say hello. I spent a lot of my childhood in Rochester, just down the road from you.
You must have had decent water pressure where your machines were installed? The reason for the pause in rinse fill is because most if not all belt-drive Kenmores have a one or two minute non-agitate pause in the rinse fill section of each cycle. During this time, even if the pressure switch is satisfied, the machine will not agitate. When the timer advances out of the pause, the first thing it does is activate the wig-wig solenoid circuit, which makes a cool noise. Then the motor comes on, water starts flowing through the pump, and a rush of belt-drive sounds happen in concert. But, I always like hearing the agitate solenoid first.
Most of the time, unless the machine is either set on a low water or there is tremendous water pressure, the machine is still filling beyond this timed pause. If anyone watches a belt-drive closely, you'll see the timer advance one notch during the rinse fill. It then stops advancing at that point as the timer motor is turned off, until the pressure switch is activated. The sound of the incoming water can often mask some of the other initial start up sounds.
Isn't it fun to see your childhood washer here? I hadn't seen mine from 1974 when we got our replacement Kenmore (from the Sears at the Oakland Mall) until 2008 when I joined the site. Enjoy!
Gordon
Welcome to our club! I know you were writing Robert, but I thought I'd chime in an say hello. I spent a lot of my childhood in Rochester, just down the road from you.
You must have had decent water pressure where your machines were installed? The reason for the pause in rinse fill is because most if not all belt-drive Kenmores have a one or two minute non-agitate pause in the rinse fill section of each cycle. During this time, even if the pressure switch is satisfied, the machine will not agitate. When the timer advances out of the pause, the first thing it does is activate the wig-wig solenoid circuit, which makes a cool noise. Then the motor comes on, water starts flowing through the pump, and a rush of belt-drive sounds happen in concert. But, I always like hearing the agitate solenoid first.
Most of the time, unless the machine is either set on a low water or there is tremendous water pressure, the machine is still filling beyond this timed pause. If anyone watches a belt-drive closely, you'll see the timer advance one notch during the rinse fill. It then stops advancing at that point as the timer motor is turned off, until the pressure switch is activated. The sound of the incoming water can often mask some of the other initial start up sounds.
Isn't it fun to see your childhood washer here? I hadn't seen mine from 1974 when we got our replacement Kenmore (from the Sears at the Oakland Mall) until 2008 when I joined the site. Enjoy!
Gordon
Gordon
Gordon,
Thank You!!! The machine that this replaced was the EXACT model in your picture!!! Also purchased at Sears in Highland Park. We lived in Oak Park. City Water!!! Thank you for explaining the rinse pause. I used to wait for the "rush of sounds" and the light to come on at the same time. I love seeing this living museum of engineering and design. It is truly a rush to see appliances that we grew up with. I swear.... it awakens long dormant neurons!!! Thank you again for your welcome and sharing our interest in the KM.
Gordon,
Thank You!!! The machine that this replaced was the EXACT model in your picture!!! Also purchased at Sears in Highland Park. We lived in Oak Park. City Water!!! Thank you for explaining the rinse pause. I used to wait for the "rush of sounds" and the light to come on at the same time. I love seeing this living museum of engineering and design. It is truly a rush to see appliances that we grew up with. I swear.... it awakens long dormant neurons!!! Thank you again for your welcome and sharing our interest in the KM.
macboy91si
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Childhood Machines
I'm glad Robert posted this, this brings back many fond memories, hopefully someday I can find one of these. When I was at John Lefevers a while back, we found the exact machine in the 67 Sears Catalog. Ours was white, has the black poly Super Roto and black scrubber cap. I made a post back here a while back about trying to identify a childhood washer, this is the machine. Our machine was white, non-suds model. One dial and a slider with a red filter light. I remember the woo-woo this machine had, it was very loud, and filter light was worn down and cracked a little. I also remember the light would pulse with agitation strokes a little, it followed the sound. It was the 1st machine, my grandparents acquired the machine from some relatives who actually won a set of new machines in some sort of contest. We got this and a 1957/58 GE dryer with just the little control box on top. They lasted forever, my grandparents got the machines in 75 or so and they survived through the late 90's when the washer stopped working. The dryer to my knowledge never stopped working, but I was too young to take these and do anything with them at the time. I can still remember the basement of their house and the step ladder I used to watch the machine.
-Tim
I'm glad Robert posted this, this brings back many fond memories, hopefully someday I can find one of these. When I was at John Lefevers a while back, we found the exact machine in the 67 Sears Catalog. Ours was white, has the black poly Super Roto and black scrubber cap. I made a post back here a while back about trying to identify a childhood washer, this is the machine. Our machine was white, non-suds model. One dial and a slider with a red filter light. I remember the woo-woo this machine had, it was very loud, and filter light was worn down and cracked a little. I also remember the light would pulse with agitation strokes a little, it followed the sound. It was the 1st machine, my grandparents acquired the machine from some relatives who actually won a set of new machines in some sort of contest. We got this and a 1957/58 GE dryer with just the little control box on top. They lasted forever, my grandparents got the machines in 75 or so and they survived through the late 90's when the washer stopped working. The dryer to my knowledge never stopped working, but I was too young to take these and do anything with them at the time. I can still remember the basement of their house and the step ladder I used to watch the machine.
-Tim
mrb627
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Lock-n-Spin
Is a GREAT screen name, BTW!
Welcome...
Malcolm
Is a GREAT screen name, BTW!
Welcome...
Malcolm
whirlcool
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Robert:
Maybe you could get one of those HD single utility tubs and mount it on wheels and use it as a portable suds saver tub? That way it could be moved from machine to machine.
Maybe you could get one of those HD single utility tubs and mount it on wheels and use it as a portable suds saver tub? That way it could be moved from machine to machine.
Wow there seems to be an unprecedented amount of Michiganders around here all of a sudden
laundryboy
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Beautiful set. I'm looking for the same ones.
Awesome find! And what a beautiful scrubber cap! Seems like the ones I find out here in Cali are usually all mushed up and wrinkled...
Maybe you could get one of those HD single utility tubs and mount it on wheels and use it as a portable suds saver tub?
Nah, fresh suds for me thank you
Nah, fresh suds for me thank you
