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Lets make this clear..

Its a 913/918 -vs- a 3.5 Eureka?
I'll use my 918, with paper bags.

I still think the Hoover is a better performer, I guess we'll find out.
After being a part of VCCC cleaning contests the past few years(and having winning cleaners too) my gut feeling is it will be an even score between the two.

If I am wrong, I won't be afraid to admit it either.
St Louis will be fun!
 
Cleaning competition

Jeff and Bobby,

You better find out what President Vanik is allowing this year for the competition!! I know it is post WWII vacuums but I'm sure there will several hoops to jump through with the written rules. ;)
 
RULES-SCHMULES!!

We can do this "after hours" as a just for fun thing, or enter both cleaners in the monster vac contest and then just see which one removed more dirt.
Sorry I don't jump through hoops....

You're REALLY funny Charlie!!!
 
David, Pete, & Jeff: Beautiful vintage Eurekas!! I don't know what machine I like best--David's chrome & blue machine with the floral bag, his & Jeff's 260 Automatics, Pete's Twin-Power Automatic, or Jeff's Monkey Wards machine with the "box-top" bag!! The original Disturbulator is very interesting as well!

David, which 3.5-amp motor are you referring to; the later, small motor or the older Convertible-style motor? My favorite Eureka models have to be the 3.5-amp machines with the small "blender" motor, front-wheel adjustment, and wooden beater bar (what was the name of this; was this referred to as a Disturbulator as well?). I have two KMart Eurekas; 664A from the late-70's and a circa-1989 630D, and they do an awesome job of grooming the carpet. While they're lightweight (a late-model Eureka definitely gives those damn Orecks a run for their money in this aspect) and extremely easy to push, I would NEVER compare them to a metal-base Convertible as there is simply no contest which is the clear winner in my opinion. However, if you consider the later plastic-base 4.8-amp and "Power Surge" Convertibles, I'd take a Eureka against one of them ANYTIME!

--Austin
 
David on Eureka; continued

The Eureka with the "tapestry" bag, model 1444, is the same model my mom had when i was a child. the only reason i have it and havent sold it is cause of the this. the 1444 has the cheaper/lighter/weaker blender style motor. as you may know, before eureka introduced this motor, the standard motor used resembled the convertible motor. as a matter of fact, its the same motor design is still used today in the sanitare model 888/886. the "good" eureka motor used double sealed ball bearings. the hoover didnt. the eureka motor also ran much cooler than the convertible motor. the later 1400-series eureka with the smaller motor also featured a fan with shorter fins, which i imagine might lessen suction. austin, the eureka upright i bought as a youngster at kmart looks almost identical to the beige and white one i see on top of the wire shelves in your pics. mine had a four position adjuster, ive also seen them with two positions. i actually dislike the eureka wooden brushroller. "disturbulator" is a term the eureka company used for all brushrolls in their machines. for example, "this commercial model has a heavy-duty disturbulator, a Vibra-Groomer". the sleeve bearings on eurekas wooden agitators never seemed to last. this is an area where hoover had it RIGHT. in a vintage eureka, a Vibra-Groomer or a Vibra-Groomer II with ball bearings (i believe the original Vibra-Groomer always had BBs) is the ONLY was to go for heavy duty performance. the bristles on either VG are also firmer than the ones on a wooden brushroll. if you havent had an older eureka with the "good" motor, metal brushroll and full-size fan you really should try one out. i have two of these "good" ones in storage still but "they arent ready to be photographed". one thing i like about the convertible agitator is that the beater bar extends further out than the ones on Vibra-Groomers. however, the aluminum Vibra-Groomer has removable beater bars that can be replaced with bristles, making it double brush. anyone care to talk agitators?
 
some more pics

Here's my Monkey Wards cleaners. The left one is early 70's, the middle cord reel model from about 1975, and the Power Plus model is from about 1980.
All three run as good as they look too!
 
PS, Bobby from boston should be prepared for the 913/918 to be fitted with a double brush agitator. though i think jeff parker is a doll and an expert above reproach, read between his lines and i see a FIERCE Hoover loyalty. i cant wait to meet him!
 
Eurekas

1972 "Golden Vanguard" Deluxe Upright(Winner of 2 ribbons at the 2004 VCCC Convention in Chicago- it tied for first place in one area of the cleaning contest, and 1 for President's Choice)

1979 1458A, the model that debuted the Vibra-Groomer II(my very first new vacuum ever!!)

1989 Self-propelled model(bought new by my sister and given to me last year)
 
WOW...Look At the Monkey's...

Jeff,

My great aunt had the 1980's version when i was younger..and I know where the middle one came from, but where did you find the "Contessa" model? did you already have it before?

Just cleaned the roomies carpet becasue he is a total pig, and used my Premier Commercial fitted with a type W handisac. It did JUST fine. I leave the Kirby Heritage on the main floor...and substitute it with my Miele Mercury.

I have several Eureka's. Each one has a merit that I like. The one that Jeff has, was my very first acquisition after starting my vacuum job in lansing back in 1998...was especially neat becasue I had never really had the opp to use one previous.

Great pic's guys.

Chad
 
I saw that...

Ad If it wasn't for the fact that my basement was fairly stuffed with machines already I would prolly buy. My last oldie acquisition was a TOL Kenmore Twin Fan Magicord from 1981 or so. I checked the "Completed listing" and it has already been dropped. Bought it well before Christmas. good vacuum, noisy a sin. I'm trying to limit my collection to Cord-reel Uprights, or er. the TOL machines. So I guess this one applies..hmmmnnnn

Chad
 
Vanguard?

Where did Eureka come up with the name Vanguard for that machine? It sure looks nice. Is it quiet? How do those do on bare floors? Tim
 
Vintage Eureka Upright Suction

Hi -

I'm enjoying this thread. I recently purchased an older '80s model Eureka upright, bought some new parts for it, and took it apart for a good cleaning. I posted pictures in a past thread. I like how it performs. It doesn't have the world's strongest suction, but it gets the job done. I love the hollow "whirring" sound when it's on.

My question is....of all the Eureka soft-bag uprights from past years, which ones had the stronger suction with the 15/16" deep fan/higher amps? Was this only on the ESP models? Mine is a very basic model, with the 3/4" fan, and a fairly small motor...4.0 amps.

P.S. Love the pictures here - Beautiful Eurekas!!
 
I like Eureka too

They are fine vacuums, and seemingly non-existant with some collectors.
I have that Wards model on ebay on my watch list. That looks very nice, I hope it is rescued and preserved.
Monkey Wards is not around anymore, so their cleaners are kinda valuable IMHO.

I am not sure why Eureka called that gaudy machine a Vanguard, I guess I'd have to look it up in the dictionary. I do know the first machine they called "Vanguard" is the one Pete has. it was theri first deluxe machine with the cord reel and sliding "rugulator"

With regards to the Hoover 918 and this contest: My cleaner will be original, and use a beater bar agitator. I am not yet sure if it will use a shakeout bag or paper bag....
 
well, if an original style cloth bag is used, you will have excellent airflow but you will have the risk of dust blowing through. if you use a type C bag it may clog real quick. does the convertion dirt involve flour or talc? David
 
bags bags bags

I could use either a bojack cloth bag, or leave the original and use a paper liner.
For paper bags on the 918 I use eiter Hoover type W or Eureka F & G bags, both work great!!
 

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