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barcoboy

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Yes unclejohn, I finally picked up my first Hoover twin tub!

Back in the end of August, Launderess posted in Thread #42001 a TT 0519 for sale in NY state. It wasn't long that I was in communication with the seller, and after two months, I finally drove 4 1/2 hours today to go pick it up (and 4 1/2 hours back). It just BARELY fit in my car, even after I measured to make sure. No problems at customs bringing it across into Canada.

First problem that it has is no back cover. The seller told me that it had not been used very much, and by the looks of it, I believe him. But he said a couple of years ago he tried to get it going again after it had sat for a while, and I guess misplaced the cover. He is going to let me know if he finds it, so there might be hope of reuniting it with the rest of the cabinet.

Bringing it into the house revealed the second problem... pump seized (no belt either, or so I thought). I was able to get it to turn without too much effort though. I also noticed that the belt for the spinner was partially off, so I rolled it back on the pulley and it seems to be okay. Inside the wash tub he had placed the owners manual and fill hose, but when I looked inside, I found a small belt that looked more like a vacuum cleaner belt than anything, but as luck would have it, it fit perfectly onto the spin motor pulley and pump pulley. Problem is that turning the spinner manually doesn't spin the pump pulley, so I don't know if the force of the motor would be enough to turn the pump, or if it would just slip the belt. Should I try the hot water down the pipes test and see if that helps free up the pump some more?

But other than the pump, it seems to be in really good shape. Both motors run fine (tested spin motor before replacing pump belt), and timer works. I didn't realize that the 0519 had an electric brake on the spinner... I thought that all of the Hoover TTs were mechanical brakes. I haven't tried any water tests to see if there are any leaks... can't see any cracked hoses, and I'm hoping that the seals are okay. Nice harvest gold cabinet with some fading and paint chipping off of the covers, but no rust.

Haven't had time to take any pictures, but I will post some eventually. I am heading out of the country for a week's holidays starting on Friday, so there probably won't be any pics until after I get back.
 
Bad news... after a couple of hot water "soaks", the pump is still turning hard, and trying to get it to turn with the motor and belt is impossible.

No leaks though, so I guess that is a good thing.

Any suggestions?
 
Will Have To Wait Until One Is Home

To consult my Hoover service and repair manual, but I'd start looking for a new pump sharpish.

Even at their best the pumps on TT's were their weakest link. It could just also be it is really filled with gunk, detergent and other residue that has hardened up.

Get some boiling water into the thing an allow it to sit, then try pumping again.

If the motor is otherwise turning/coming up to speed, belt is in good shape and placed properly, there are few other potential problems as these are pretty simple machines.
 
Took the hose off the top coming from the spinner tub, and the impeller looks nice and clean. Soaked inside the pump with WD-40, and worked the pump pulley back and forth, which loosened it a bit more, but still the belt wouldn't turn it.

Guess I will have to start looking for a pump. Launderess, would you have a part number that I should be looking for? I'm guessing I'll have better luck in the UK/Australia finding one, but their model numbers are different... would you know which ones have the same pump as my 0519? I've seen part #PMP22, which looks to be the same, as opposed to #PMP15, which is the built in diverter valve pump. Unfortunately, #PMP15 seems to be more popular, because I guess only the US models switched to the pinch valve design.

What about rebuilding this pump? From what I've been reading here, it's my understanding not to take the pump apart unless you have a new o-ring, otherwise it will leak for sure.
 
Pumps

Congratulations, great machine, I would put some boiling water from kettle with white vinegar in the washtub and run it into the pump, leave it soaking and turn the diverter valve a few times, also with power off and unplugged, turn the pump pulley back and forth, its that soak , move, soak move and repeat, should flush all the gunk out...

Then try, and if not simply take the pump apart and see what its like, take a few pics and post - many members here with lots of fun experiences with these machine to give guidance...

Happy washing, Mike

chestermikeuk++10-25-2012-15-46-31.jpg
 
Yep, that's the pump in Reply #5. If you still have it and would be willing to part with it, I'd be interested in buying.
 
No problem, thanks. I'm heading south on holidays tomorrow and will be gone for a week, so I won't have a chance to do anything with the TT. I will be still on the net though, so I'll keep monitoring the forums.

It's funny... as a kid, a close friend of my family used to have a 0510 or 0511 twin tub, and I used to get so excited when he'd let me help out with the washing. Now after buying my own twin tub, I sort of feel the same kind of excitement! :-)
 
Twin tub

barcoboy,

Glad that you bought this twin tub washing machine. Think that 0519 is roughly the equivalent to the Hoover T-1003, with fully automated rinse, etc...

I do hope that you can easily fix the unavoidable little problems, above all regarding the pump. Indeed, some replacements are available through eBay. A thing to take care of with twin tubs is the resilient rubber, right under the spin tub. It must be inspected first because any leakage there would end up causing a flood on your kitchen floor (provided your washer is used in the kitchen, of course)! I had to get rid of cracks there on two of my washer units with the help of GE silicone rubber. This particular silicone is supposed to be water proof and to resist when exposed to harsh conditions (vibration, temperature, etc.). Also had to replace a broken drain hose (the Hoover 0611 original hose has gone to hell).

One of my washing machines is deprived of a back panel (held by four screws). If I can't locate one at all, I will try having an equivalent ''manufactured'' for me at a local metalwork shop. It should be possible to get a sort of replacement panel that will just fit on the back side of the washer with the very same four screws as the ''original''. The missing panel is for a Baycrest twin tub washer model HBT53.

Again, congrats barcoboy! Hope you have a good time with your first Hoover twin tub

Enjoy!

unclejohn
 
Thanks unclejohn. I'm looking forward to doing my first wash with it. I might even be tempted to use it once without the pump hooked up and just gravity drain when needed (athough an "automatic rinse" would be difficult!). Would also give me a chance to test the seal in the wash impeller, since I didn't fill up with enough hot water to test that one.

The other option I thought of doing which shouldn't be too difficult if I can't find a pump is to add an electric pump to the drain hose. Just need to add a short piece of hose between the outlet of the mechanical pump and inlet of the electric pump, then re-attach the drain hose to the outlet of the electric pump. Wire up the electric pump to come on whenever the spin motor runs, and done.

Haven't turned the whole thing upside down to look at the spinner rubber seals, but when I poured hot water in both spin tub and wash tub, there were no leaks, including when I was running the spinner for a few seconds at a time trying to un-seize the pump. If I did need to reseal things, something that would probably work well is "Goop" (see the link below). It's an adhesive that bonds well yet stays flexible. I used it to repair a motor coupler on a vertical cooling fan at the beginning of the year, and it's still holding strong.

As for the back panel, my family are all mechanics, so they would be able to manufacture one for it very quickly. Would take only a few minutes after measuring and drawing out the pattern to plasma cut out a piece that would be a perfect fit. The only things left to do would be to cut out a hole for the drain hose, and then weld on a couple of tabs to wrap up the drain hose and power cable for storage. It wouldn't be the original harvest gold of the rest of the machine, but acceptable.

http://www.eclecticproducts.com/ag_adhesives.htm
 
Yes, barcoboy, you're right.

Goop, seems interesting--dident know that product will check it out

And the back panel could be sprain painted to the desired color....

Mine's would be sprayed crane white color tone just as the machine.
 
unclejohn, forgot to mention that you can buy Goop at Canadian Tire. I think I have the Automotive variety.
 
Thanks, barcoboy, I'll look for it

''sprain painted''... How did I wrote that???
Sprain, after all sounds not too bad (!?!) lol
 
Trial

I was so anxious to try this thing out, that I stuck it in my bathtub and filled her up. Happy to report no leaks anywhere, and everything (except the pump of course) works fine. Gravity drain will have to suffice for the first couple of test loads. Hehehehe.

Oh, I did find an old sock down inside the spin chamber that I was able to pull out with a long pry bar. :-)
 
I was about to say that drain hose seemed a little short, but then seen it was tucked inside.....

Very nice machine.....you'll have lots of fun with it.....I see your also has the motor on the so called spring mount, mine is permanently mounted, no give under tension....

I need to find a spout for the AutoRinse feature in mine to work....
 

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