<blockquote>I guess what has drawn me to HE TL's is that I do like the agitation aspect of the washer. I know a FL would have suited me better, being in a condo with limited space it would have freed up room to make new storage. But I have always found them "boring" because I like to watch the action so to speak.</blockquote> I had never used a frontloader until I refurbished a 2005 Duet HT in Nov 2012 for use by the tenants at a friend's rental house. I used it for a couple months until the house renovation was finished. I found the tumble patterns and load balancing/distribution routines as entertaining to watch as the agitation of a traditional or HE toploader.