Fisher + Paykel TL Dryer vs. Consumer Reports

[frigilux]

Just received the new Consumer Reports with a preview of the F+P TL dryer. Their claim: Due to the depth of the drum it's actually harder to unload than any FL washer or dryer, especially for shorter people. They were also not crazy about it's performance with a full load.

 

[gyrafoam]

Read same article last night. Not quite sure why someone would want a top-loading dryer anyway unless there was no room for a door in front (in which case how would you get the machine in there---lower it?). Well it is new and will take refining, and who knows, if the market will support it anyway? CU can be stupid-picky sometimes anyway--claimed it made a noise "like a jet airplane taking off" could they be less vague and describe just which part of the take off they are talking about! Anyway, machines make noise. I wish F&P well.

 

[DADoES]

Can either of you guys scan the article and email it to me? I'm subscribed to CR online, but the report isn't there . . or they haven't yet updated the site.

 

[DADoES]

Oops. The article is on CR's site now.

 

[westytoploader]

I agree; I read the same article and they didn't seem too impressed. I think they should give the F & P credit for being the first American top-loading dryer (or at least one of the first) instead of commenting on things such as the noise of the 2nd door closing...difficult unloading, no tub light, etc...

I never thought of this, but the F & P TL would be well suited in the "laundry closet" environment, since it doesn't require any front clearance...

 

[kenmore1978]

F & P TL dryer

So what's the point of a top loading dryer, anyway? What's the advantage? Besides the issues CR brought up, you lose the space on top of a dryer a lot of people use as a workspace. What is F & P thinking?

 

[laundromat]

FP TL dryer

I saw these at the KBIS here in Orlando,Fl.in 2002.The ones that were on display and running were very quiet.They sounded nothing like a jet taking off or landing.Their capacity was huge and the loading and unloading of items was a lot easyer than the traditional dryers especialy if you own a top loading washer because the transfer of items from one to the other was a breeze.My recomendation to match it would be the GE Harmony.I like their agitation better than the FP as far as top loading washers are concerned.I realy do not care for them(top loading washers) but if I had to own a current model,that would be the one.

 

[foraloysius]

I've read rumours that the GE Harmony is rather harsh on laundry. I wonder if Robert could tell us a little more about it.

 

[frigilux]

I'd imagine loading the F+P TL dryer is easy, especially when transferring clothes from a TL washer. It's unloading the machine they found cumbersome. It will be interesting to see if any other manufacturers follow their lead. I'm all for encouraging new designs, but I think most of America will probably choose to continue to bend over for their dryers.

 

[brisnat81]

Bending Americans

I was reading some literature I think from the F&P website ages ago. Apparantly the TL dryer is aimed soley at the American market, because Americans dont like to bend over.

Strange I know, since the US pioneered the constant use of the dryer, but that was F&P's logic

 

[golittlesport]

hahaha..."Americans don't like to bend over." Sad, but true. Too many Amercians would just like to stand there and not move at all and watch life pass them by.

Just as CR said unloading the TL dryer is hard, I think unloading a deep-tub top load washer is harder than a front loader. Reaching down into the bottom of a TL washer and lifting heavy wet wash up and out(and remember with TL's spin speeds the wash is a lot heavier) around the clunky auger agitators in todays machines is no cakewalk. I wonder how the vertically challenged among us cope with these three-foot deep wash tubs.

 

[DADoES]

I've located an F&P TL dryer. May pick it up Saturday 10/9 if I can get there.

 

[westytoploader]

In reply to Louis's comment, there was a demo lid (not a window lid unfortunately) on a Harmony at The Great Indoors (Sears's flagship store) so I started it. The furiously reversing impeller looked rough! Also, in the June 2004 issue of CR the Harmony scored only "good" on Gentleness. I would think that the problem comes from the fact that the impeller is nearly the diameter of the tub base, and the fact that it reverses fast doesn't help either. Robert made videos of his Harmony and through the later part of the wash cycle it really tossed 'em around!

Yes, the main CR drawback of the F & P TL dryer was unloading; I could see where that poses a problem considering the DEEP lid opening. My GE Portable and Kenmore are relatively hard to unload as well. The Kenmore's tub is just plain deep, and the GE's problem comes from the fact that there's a good 6 inches between the lid opening and the actual washtub (large balance ring in between). The soft floating suspension (where the tub, wash/spin motor, and drain pump on a rod-spring system are connected to the cabinet, eliminating the need for a base) doesn't really help either.

I find the Maytag relatively easy to unload, however, because the tub is wider than it is deep, as well as a large lid opening to get those large items out.

--Austin

 

[foraloysius]

Thank you Austin, I guess I should plan a trip to the US again sometime, so I can catch up with the newest washers.

 

[DADoES]

Confirmed. I am picking up a DEGX1 and an IWL12 this evening. The dealer (in Lake Jackson) had the DEGX1 but didn't have an IWL12 in stock. They found one at a distributor in Houston and made a special trip to fetch it for me.

 

[mrb627]

EXCELLENT!

Looking forward to a report by the end of the weekend.

MRB

 

[DADoES]

First quickie report on the dryer. I haven't yet run any loads.

1. The drum really is quite large, and deeper than I expected. Thus, CR's comment/complaint, LOL. I don't imagine any more so than a typical 6.5 to 7 cu ft capacity front-load dryer . . but one doesn't normally look down into a front-load dryer drum to directly observe the depth!

2. It's a little noisier than I expected when running, quite a strong thrumming sound, I suspect from the blower. It (the blower) makes a slight turbo-whine at the start, vaguely like the SmartDrive motor revving up to 1000 RPM. And there is a strong, distinct KLUNK when the drum lid latches/unlatches . . but it's brief.

 

[foraloysius]

Congratulations!! Great that you got the new set! Looking forward to some reports on this and if possible a few pictures too!

Louis

 

[kenmore1978]

TL dryer

So this is really good timing, bring out a TL dryer just as they're trying to switch people to FL washers. So now, you end up bending over anyway, except that it's the washer instead of the dryer.