Flatware identification needed

[xraytech]

As I have been cleaning my grams house out I brought home a few odd pieces of flatware from the kitchen, they were always items that caught my eye.

In the first two picture are 3 pieces of what I assume to be a 1950s set of stainless, on the back is stamped Wm Rogers Stainless Oneida. Anyone know the name of this pattern?

In the last two pictures are a pair of table knives, they are silver plate I'm guessing. Only marks on it are stainless on the blade, and under the handle it simply says "Tudor"
Can anyone identify a maker or a pattern?

 

[bluejay]

This set looks fairly close; it's the Camille pattern according to the seller.

http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=351109533179

 

[danemodsandy]

Uncommon!

You've posted some stumpers!

Those spoons are not Camille, in any of the three Oneida patterns by that name - Oneida recycled pattern names. The eBay auction seller has mis-identified the pattern.

I also can't figure out what the knives are, but they appear to be from the 1920s. They're not one of the more common Oneida patterns of that era, like Grosvenor, Bird of Paradise, the first, 1924 version of Queen Bess or Patrician.

One question I can answer: The word "Tudor" was Oneida's trademark for its least expensive silverplate, which was still very good quality. My Oneida Queen Bess (second, 1946 version) is Tudor Plate. Oneida's Community Plate was supposed to be higher quality.

Are you getting private messages from me? I've sent you a couple.

 

[bluejay]

I thought the name might be wrong, as a pattern search revealed a lot of other flatware that looked nothing like the one I posted.  We have some of the Oneida Community with the Starburst on it, but it looks like an earlier version of that.

 

[xraytech]

Thanks for the help trying to find these patterns.

and yes Sandy I got your message and responded this morning

 

[abcomatic]

try this

HI, go to Replacements.com and see what you can come up with. They have tons of things and perhaps that will help? Gary