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Reminds me of the Old D+M with the Loop Racks.

Sorry, No use for that rack. Desperate replacement maybe.

Most "Normal" people... (Not like us)... would or I find it useless.

You need to rely on the "Deflection" and physics of the water spray going up and coming down.

That's my story and I am sticking to it. : )
 
"Who loads pans face down?! Geez... "

Quite.

And for that matter, who loads pots precisely at right-angles to the spray?

I am of the opinion that the official manufacturer's basket will be the better option. Who's to say that this basket won't fall off the runners during the wash? What if the basket falls off and touches the heater element?

I have found that even with those 'fold down' plate racks, I can get pans and Pyrex cookware to sit better and stay in position, when the spikes are in the 'up' position. That's probably because of years of experience fighting 'fixed basket layouts' in Zanussi, Hoover and Hotpoint machines! Lol
 
Bosch Basket

Dunno how you can hate Bosch baskets.

This load here is once again just running at the moment. Our DW here runs every day or every other day, every 3 days at least, depending on how much is cooked from scratch and how much frozen stuff is prepared. (We're a bunch of students after all.)

Loads of this kind are kind of textbook for this place. With some general planning ahead and some adjusting afterwards, you get a ton in there.

Bottom rack:
- Back right for plates (flatter plates to the right, more rounded once in the middle, deep once most left).
- Back left for cutting boards, sorted from tall most left to smaller to the right.
- Cuttlery basket is fixed front center.
- Then, depending on situation, pans and pots are tilted slightly leaning against the cuttlery basket and subsequent pans are leaned onto the next one. That way, there is always a small gap at the bottom for the spray to reach into.
- Big serving bowls are best loaded into the verry last tine before the tines change the direction they face. Thus the bowl naturaly hangs over the items in front (for us, it usually overhangs the cuttlery basket).
- Last, if you look straigth down onto the rack, where every there are areas you can see the door surface, you can load something on top that isn't to dirty (perfect are shallow tupperware items or large greasy pans). Such areas are over the plates, over the cuttlery basket, over the cutting boards.

Top Rack:
- Right side with etagers down fits the 4 tea cups one of my flatmate uses in 2 days. Further, long serving and cooking utensils like big knifes fit there, as well as tea sieves, scoops, anything small.
- Left side is cups, glases.
- The row of tines is for the small plates belonging to the tea cups, tupperware lids and small bowls.
- In front of the etagers on the right there is one more row for glases, cups, tupperware etc. Usually faceing the row of bowls to overhang the bowls or leaning onto them are lunch boxes and such.
- Ontop of anywhere where there is a cluster of cupps and glases you can perfectly fit pot lids. Those are usually barely dirty, so by laying them face down onto areas with round items like glases or cups, the spray reaching through the areas between the round surfaces is more then enough to get them clean.

That works for most every day soild items.
If loads sit for more then a day, this probably wont satisfy in terms of cleaning.
If you call a dishwasher a bad cleaner if you find a speck of parsley on one of the corners where something touches, this wont work for.
If you are out for perfect performance every time without any failure, don't do this.
If you throw burnt in pans in there and suspect perfect results, don't even try this.
(We here quick rinse any large debry out of our pans before loading, and if something is visibly stuck on, you flush the pan, add a tiny amount of handwashing liquid, take the brush, scrub out these stuck on pieces, flush again and load. Takes a minute tops, more like a 30sec job. Nothing else gets pretreated, just scraped, shaken, poured out.)

I would have applied this as BobLoad, but not only could I have loaded a couple more items (a few small spots in the top rack) and the soils weren't massive, but by tomorrow morning when the load is done and I get up, a flat mate will already have unloaded the DW for me.

Bottom line: As long as it is not physicly strongly stuck to the dish, and any surface of the dish is reachable somehow by even a tiny spray of water, it will get clean.
140°F and insane amounts of tensides in an insanley alcaline enviroment will remove most typical food soils wizh ease. Most food is made of water, substances easily dissolved in water and grease (to put it simple), and that is easy to remove.
If it is black, burnt in and barely even removable with your fingernail, you DW will get rid of it just as much as you: Not at all.

Once I have a nice load to show, I'll relly do a BobLoad application for this.

(Side node: Had to move that one pan because it slid out of place.)

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@henene4

In Reply #21, photo #1...

What is the grey plastic dome, immediately to the left of the bottom spray arm's centre support? It's not the salt lid, nor the filter.
 
Just buy a "new" dishwasher in a mere few years from now, when they supposedly "all" have that standard, in what's probably now a patented design...

Your results on how their holding your wares & how the washers clean may vary...

-- Dave
 
@rolls_rapide

You mean that thing in the bottom next to the filter?

All BOL BSH DW with the plastic lower bottom tub have a float switch for overflow protection. Basicly it's just a hollow piecec that just floats up once the fill level gets to high and activates a microswitch which triggers a microswitch and activates the AquaStop system.
All other BSH DW with a full SS tub have a float switch on the left side on the outside of the tub.
 
@henene4

Ah I see, thanks.

This float is not present (in the tub) on the current plastic-base, bottom end Bosch machines. It's not on my mum's 2013 SMS**T** model. (They must have moved the float safety switch off to the side again).
 
@jkbff

My mum's machine interior is quite similar (spray arms, filter, door liner and dispenser), but the bottom basket plate racks are arranged in two parallel rows, left to right - much like henene4's older basket design.

The rear plate rack is full-length, but hinged for optional folding down.

The front rack is fixed in place, but broken up half-way along, by a fixed space for a conventional dumpy cutlery basket, then there's a few more plate spikes.

It washes very well indeed.
 
BSH loading

If it dosen't touch, it gets clean.
If it touches, but has a space facing a spray arm, it might catch a bit of parsley, not much more.

Given you don't have more then 4 types of (mainly used) plates in your cupboard, that rack still holds a ton.
Overlapping pots and pans is one necessity, using sieves as basicly free space for not so soiled pots and just plain covering the bottom rack with light soiled items basicly just resting on plates.

Given yours is a EcoSilenceDrive model (or some version of that), it has the new Auto programm which at least for Europe does wonders.
We have that on the 18" machine back down south and it outcleans this one here with week old loads.

And yes, apparently so. Never spend much time with the "Economy" line machines, as you could get a decent far greater machine reliability wise up just a little bit in the BSH lineup.
At the price point of the BOL Bosch you can far greater value IMO.
 

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