Thomas your "cold" is everyone else's "warm".
Remember, hot tropical climate?
Remember, hot tropical climate?
For the guys that ONLY wash in cold water
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If I am not mistaken cold tap water in Brasil is around 35C/95F where I live in Minnesota tap cold can drop to 3.8C/39F water from the water heater 140F/60C is needed to activate the detergent fully.
If I am not mistaken cold tap water in Brasil is around 35C/95F where I live in Minnesota tap cold can drop to 3.8C/39F water from the water heater 140F/60C is needed to activate the detergent fully.
But we also have winters.... (very short, but we have)
In that case water is so cold that we feel like thousands of nails being hammered in our hands...
And we still doing cold washes anyway.
In that case water is so cold that we feel like thousands of nails being hammered in our hands...
And we still doing cold washes anyway.
mark_wpduet
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I don't wash anything in cold water. EVER
iheartmaytag
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Since you said ONLY in cold water
I don't.
I don't.
whirlcool
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Thanks guys for having answered my questions, but most of you have my same habit of NOT washing in COLD water while I wanted to know more about those that use it all the times while the only one that uses cold, just told how it is supposed to save colours and energy.
Not a single explanation about what I had asked!
Being the quality laundry people that we are on this website, I don't think you'll find anyone here that washes their clothes in cold water only. You'll have to look elsewhere for those kind. As you can tell it's a hot subject too, that's why so many people responded!
Not a single explanation about what I had asked!
Being the quality laundry people that we are on this website, I don't think you'll find anyone here that washes their clothes in cold water only. You'll have to look elsewhere for those kind. As you can tell it's a hot subject too, that's why so many people responded!
dirtybuck
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I went to the laundromat I frequently go to a little over a month ago. The attendant told me he had been busy with a big rush of people a few hours earlier, and it was just starting to thin out. I always make it a habit to feel the water while it's filling to see how hot it is before the clothes start to wash. The water was COLD!
"Happy" was NOT one of my reactions!
"Happy" was NOT one of my reactions!
mark_wpduet
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Does anyone on this forum wash in cold water only?
dj-gabriele
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Sure this is a HOT topic!
And sorry if my message was perceived as rude. I didn't mean to! Mine is pure curiosity as honestly I can't understand how stuff can get clean in cold. At least without millions of soaks and additives.
As an example Japanese machines are cold water only too but nobody dares to say that Japanese people are dirty!
If I wash rags in less than scalding hot water with powder detergent, they don't come clean. (I like clean and blinding white!) How do people that wash in cold manage? Say that "all the times" equals "more than 90% of the time"
And sorry if my message was perceived as rude. I didn't mean to! Mine is pure curiosity as honestly I can't understand how stuff can get clean in cold. At least without millions of soaks and additives.
As an example Japanese machines are cold water only too but nobody dares to say that Japanese people are dirty!
If I wash rags in less than scalding hot water with powder detergent, they don't come clean. (I like clean and blinding white!) How do people that wash in cold manage? Say that "all the times" equals "more than 90% of the time"
laundromat
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We all have them, body mites. They are mostly in our private,warm,moist areas. They die and stay on our skin until we perspire or take a bath or shower.The ones that wind up in our clothes or bed linens,will be easily washed out using warm or hot water to wash them. Cold water will not open the fibers to remove them and they eventually build up leaving a darker spot in the area they congregate. Running the Laundromat here helped me understand this because here,there are a few folks who are highly allergic to body mites and have to use warm or hot water to be sure they don't get an infection. As much as they promote the cold water detergents today, they do not get clothes as clean as a warm or hot wash does.However, the choice is up to the individuals that do their own laundry. I go to a nice laundromat in Hilo Bay area that has all different size Dexter font loading washers and dryers along with 6 Whirlpool top loaders. As they fold their "clean clothes out of the dryers, you can visually see the dark spots I spoke about earlier regarding body mites. I just shrug my shoulders in disbelief and walk away.
I watch how folks attempt doing their wash and it is quite an experience to say the least.Most never look at the different settings and just put their card in, pour the detergent down the divided dispenser and walk away.Others are a bit more precise in their madness and add the bleach immediately no waiting for the amber light to come on and let them know when to add it.Then, the way they load the clothes is by shoving them in w/out even unraveling their loads.Most of them get sudsy final rinses. you can tell by the suds dancing on the inner door window during the final spin.The W'pools are broken down most of the time due to overloads.
I watch how folks attempt doing their wash and it is quite an experience to say the least.Most never look at the different settings and just put their card in, pour the detergent down the divided dispenser and walk away.Others are a bit more precise in their madness and add the bleach immediately no waiting for the amber light to come on and let them know when to add it.Then, the way they load the clothes is by shoving them in w/out even unraveling their loads.Most of them get sudsy final rinses. you can tell by the suds dancing on the inner door window during the final spin.The W'pools are broken down most of the time due to overloads.
Temperature
is just one (of many) parts that make a good wash
Personally, I am using always 90, sometimes 60 for bright colours (not just complete whites), sometimes AA40 wash, but it is too long and boring, and always 40, sometimes 30.. so you can consider me a hot wash user, but.. we all know that a lot of manufacturers offer 40 wash same as result as 60 for years now, and that is irrevocable, laboratories prooved that many times, with all the mites, other animals, and stains too
So tumble action, water level, length or more abstract stuff like jetsystem are also things we must consider
If there is someone offering a possibility that will give same results on lower, as it would on higher, I would 1st try it myself, and if it give results that are sattisfying me, then why not? Not gonna turn it down so easily just because of lower temperature.
Dex
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As you could see, I am high temperature user, which means, so far, in none of washers I've used lower temp made a better wash..we're waiting for innovations!
is just one (of many) parts that make a good wash
Personally, I am using always 90, sometimes 60 for bright colours (not just complete whites), sometimes AA40 wash, but it is too long and boring, and always 40, sometimes 30.. so you can consider me a hot wash user, but.. we all know that a lot of manufacturers offer 40 wash same as result as 60 for years now, and that is irrevocable, laboratories prooved that many times, with all the mites, other animals, and stains too
So tumble action, water level, length or more abstract stuff like jetsystem are also things we must consider
If there is someone offering a possibility that will give same results on lower, as it would on higher, I would 1st try it myself, and if it give results that are sattisfying me, then why not? Not gonna turn it down so easily just because of lower temperature.
Dex
P.S
As you could see, I am high temperature user, which means, so far, in none of washers I've used lower temp made a better wash..we're waiting for innovations!
This should put all the cold water critics to rest!
"Look at all that hot water fabric damage!" Says the lady in the white coat.
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If a woman in a white coat tells you something you better listen.
"Look at all that hot water fabric damage!" Says the lady in the white coat.
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If a woman in a white coat tells you something you better listen.
Gabriele
Ok, Brazil is a Tropical country, but not everywhere is hot here.
In my city the weather is almost pyrolitic as everybody here is tired or hearing it from me.
But in some other regions it's much colder, and water temperatures is also colder.
For example in southern cities like Gramado or Porto Alegre, the temperature during the summer is usually 28/32C, during the winter it easily reach -15C. In Gramado they have lots of snow for more than a month per year.
Even there, people do cold washes only.
Of course the Sinner's Circle has a limit, but there should be an equation to balance the chemicals, mechanical action and time with the temperature.
More detergent maybe? Or maybe that's the reason why brazilians love to soak.
Again, the most popular aditives here are laundry powder (Omo Multi Acão is the best seller), bleach for whites (nothing else for colors) and for the specific stains, the famous musical band soap bar, laundry sink & elbow grease with the hit parade "please don't stop the rubbing".
If you enter any ordinary laundry room in Brazil, (considering "normal" people, not laundrylovers like us) you'll find a washing machine, a laundry sink, and usually 3 or more buckets used to let clothes soaking.
Off topic: the favorite bucket in brazil can't be bought in stores LOL. People love to use old 10kg HTH (Pool treatment powder) buckets. Well, the bucket is really strong and too good to be disposed after the HTH ends so, everybody that has swimming pools keep the buckets. when they have enough, they start giving them to neighbors, relatives and friends. and that bucket is so good that it lasts for more than 10 years. (i had one for more than 20 years, when HTH was still made by Olin. It cracked only last year.
As chlorine looses it's effect after some time, it's safe to use after the bucket is very well rinsed. Also, it's used to soak clothes, not to store food, so I agree there's no reason to simply dispose so well made buckets and then spend money buying poor quality buckets that won't last more than a year.
This HTH bucket thing is so famous that years ago, on pool supply stores there were banners and leaflets asking people to give the old buckets to friends as an alternative to reducee plastic waste and help the environment. If all your friends already had those buckets, you could return them to the stores so other people could get it for free.
Lots of other products use exactly the same bucket, from paints to commercial size butter or soy oil for restaurants and even other brands of pool chlorine, but for some reason, only the HTH bucket is kept. Funny, isn't it? It's also a good marketing tool because the HTH brand is somehow, everywhere, even on houses without swimming pools. and when we talk about chlorine for swimming pools, of course the first brand in our minds is HTH.
Ok, Brazil is a Tropical country, but not everywhere is hot here.
In my city the weather is almost pyrolitic as everybody here is tired or hearing it from me.
But in some other regions it's much colder, and water temperatures is also colder.
For example in southern cities like Gramado or Porto Alegre, the temperature during the summer is usually 28/32C, during the winter it easily reach -15C. In Gramado they have lots of snow for more than a month per year.
Even there, people do cold washes only.
Of course the Sinner's Circle has a limit, but there should be an equation to balance the chemicals, mechanical action and time with the temperature.
More detergent maybe? Or maybe that's the reason why brazilians love to soak.
Again, the most popular aditives here are laundry powder (Omo Multi Acão is the best seller), bleach for whites (nothing else for colors) and for the specific stains, the famous musical band soap bar, laundry sink & elbow grease with the hit parade "please don't stop the rubbing".
If you enter any ordinary laundry room in Brazil, (considering "normal" people, not laundrylovers like us) you'll find a washing machine, a laundry sink, and usually 3 or more buckets used to let clothes soaking.
Off topic: the favorite bucket in brazil can't be bought in stores LOL. People love to use old 10kg HTH (Pool treatment powder) buckets. Well, the bucket is really strong and too good to be disposed after the HTH ends so, everybody that has swimming pools keep the buckets. when they have enough, they start giving them to neighbors, relatives and friends. and that bucket is so good that it lasts for more than 10 years. (i had one for more than 20 years, when HTH was still made by Olin. It cracked only last year.
As chlorine looses it's effect after some time, it's safe to use after the bucket is very well rinsed. Also, it's used to soak clothes, not to store food, so I agree there's no reason to simply dispose so well made buckets and then spend money buying poor quality buckets that won't last more than a year.
This HTH bucket thing is so famous that years ago, on pool supply stores there were banners and leaflets asking people to give the old buckets to friends as an alternative to reducee plastic waste and help the environment. If all your friends already had those buckets, you could return them to the stores so other people could get it for free.
Lots of other products use exactly the same bucket, from paints to commercial size butter or soy oil for restaurants and even other brands of pool chlorine, but for some reason, only the HTH bucket is kept. Funny, isn't it? It's also a good marketing tool because the HTH brand is somehow, everywhere, even on houses without swimming pools. and when we talk about chlorine for swimming pools, of course the first brand in our minds is HTH.
By the way, i don't know that equation, but even using only cold (really cold) water, brazilians have the cleanest clothes in the world.
Something i could notice. American and European detergents are great! But Brazilian detergents work a little better on cold water.
Grabriele, please don't let me forget this thread. Next year, in June, remind me to do some more tests.
I'll spend some days doing laundry exactly like the average brazilian housekeeper does. We could do the same with friends from different countries and satisfy your curiosity by making a case study. do laundry using only detergent and very cold water.
Something i could notice. American and European detergents are great! But Brazilian detergents work a little better on cold water.
Grabriele, please don't let me forget this thread. Next year, in June, remind me to do some more tests.
I'll spend some days doing laundry exactly like the average brazilian housekeeper does. We could do the same with friends from different countries and satisfy your curiosity by making a case study. do laundry using only detergent and very cold water.
How stupid I am...
We don't need to wait!
Gabriele, as soon as I have another full load, i'll start gathering ice cubes from my dispenser and storing them in the freezer, then I'll run a cycle with really cold water.
Just let me know a temperature target. I'll try to repeat the same conditions you have there. Then I'll make a video and post on youtube.
Can anyone here do the same test in other countries?
Give me more ideas. It would be interesting if we could have similar clothes (maybe test rags with "painted" stains, mixed with the clothes?), size of load and, tipe of washing machine (to test the difference between detergents)
then a second load using the most popular type of washing machine (maybe short cycle top loaders in north america, long cycle top loader in south america and front loaders in Europe, impeller in Asia, etc)
We don't need to wait!
Gabriele, as soon as I have another full load, i'll start gathering ice cubes from my dispenser and storing them in the freezer, then I'll run a cycle with really cold water.
Just let me know a temperature target. I'll try to repeat the same conditions you have there. Then I'll make a video and post on youtube.
Can anyone here do the same test in other countries?
Give me more ideas. It would be interesting if we could have similar clothes (maybe test rags with "painted" stains, mixed with the clothes?), size of load and, tipe of washing machine (to test the difference between detergents)
then a second load using the most popular type of washing machine (maybe short cycle top loaders in north america, long cycle top loader in south america and front loaders in Europe, impeller in Asia, etc)
Well, somehow my whites stay white even using cold...
Detergent used? I went from TIDE to my WAL*MART brand, both powder...
Right now it's a "Tropical Passion" X-TRA ...
Don't know how my whites look good--and I sure DON'T want to use bleach given the garments' tag's warning on doing such...! (& I don't think it's really necessary, too, either--even in some cases...)
I have found that washing them in warm somehow produced an unpleasant scent, which I would notice on my handkerchiefs, even when using a 2nd Rinse, so I use cold & when from the Delicate speed (Ex. Slow wash; Slow spin) to the Regular (Slow wash; Normal spin)...
Something rare, that comes from not being too conscientious, I gusss...
-- Dave
Detergent used? I went from TIDE to my WAL*MART brand, both powder...
Right now it's a "Tropical Passion" X-TRA ...
Don't know how my whites look good--and I sure DON'T want to use bleach given the garments' tag's warning on doing such...! (& I don't think it's really necessary, too, either--even in some cases...)
I have found that washing them in warm somehow produced an unpleasant scent, which I would notice on my handkerchiefs, even when using a 2nd Rinse, so I use cold & when from the Delicate speed (Ex. Slow wash; Slow spin) to the Regular (Slow wash; Normal spin)...
Something rare, that comes from not being too conscientious, I gusss...
-- Dave
mark_wpduet
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Grrrr
I wish I could memorize the Fahrenheit to Celsius numbers!
I wish I could memorize the Fahrenheit to Celsius numbers!
@ Thomas
Hi Thomas,
do you think that if you where doing the same load of dirty whites (dirty white soks, dirty dish cloth stained with tomato sauce, ragú, spinch, red vine, coffe...)
here in Europe in Cold water the result would be the same?
Not using a Brasilian OMO Multi Acão or Japanese Attack or Australian Cold Power.
But using our detergent in our water conditions.
That would be interesting to try rather than the load with ice cubes in the Brasilian conditions.
Hi Thomas,
do you think that if you where doing the same load of dirty whites (dirty white soks, dirty dish cloth stained with tomato sauce, ragú, spinch, red vine, coffe...)
here in Europe in Cold water the result would be the same?
Not using a Brasilian OMO Multi Acão or Japanese Attack or Australian Cold Power.
But using our detergent in our water conditions.
That would be interesting to try rather than the load with ice cubes in the Brasilian conditions.
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