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For those with little room, there's Maytag Porta-Pair
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70series
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Admittedly, I am not someone who gets excited about the spin speed of washers, but I would love to see 2,000 rpms.
Have a good one,
James
Have a good one,
James
mrcleanjeans
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I just luv Ms. Blonde's 1970 flip style "do". Bet she uses Self-Styling Adorn,lol!
mrcleanjeans
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BTW, doesn't the "cover lady" remind you of "Nanny and The Professor"? lol
washernoob
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Cool!
That has to be one of the coolest lil combos ever! Love the colors.
The hair!
the dresses!
Ah the fabulous 60s!!!
That has to be one of the coolest lil combos ever! Love the colors.
The hair!
the dresses!
Ah the fabulous 60s!!!
redcarpetdrew
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2,000 rpm...
It is quite a sight! My little A-50 just gets up and goes. I actually ran a load thru my MAH7500 washer with the higher spin speed and then respun the load in the A-50 and still got water out of them...
RCD
It is quite a sight! My little A-50 just gets up and goes. I actually ran a load thru my MAH7500 washer with the higher spin speed and then respun the load in the A-50 and still got water out of them...
RCD
Une Essoreuse.
"Admittedly, I am not someone who gets excited about the spin speed of washers, but I would love to see 2,000 rpms."
It's impressive. When I was in school in Paris, the dormitory laundry had a Vintage Miele front loader, a brand new Miele Commercial dryer(which reversed tumbling direction every minute or so), and a new Miele extractor, or as they called it, "une essoreuse". That thing was amazing. You'd put your wet laundry in it from the washer, put a rubber spider-web thingy on top of it, close the lid, move a lever over the lid to start it, and it would wind up to 2000 rpm's in about 30 seconds. It had a drain spout on the side of it and you could watch all that water just belch out of that cylinder. It made the drying only take about 15 minutes. Even then, in 1978, I knew the French were much smarter than we about energy conservation. I still want one and am waiting for Miele to market them here.
Made the mistake once of not putting the rubber web on top of the laundry. Two of my cotton T-shirts ended up shredded. But damp dry.
"Admittedly, I am not someone who gets excited about the spin speed of washers, but I would love to see 2,000 rpms."
It's impressive. When I was in school in Paris, the dormitory laundry had a Vintage Miele front loader, a brand new Miele Commercial dryer(which reversed tumbling direction every minute or so), and a new Miele extractor, or as they called it, "une essoreuse". That thing was amazing. You'd put your wet laundry in it from the washer, put a rubber spider-web thingy on top of it, close the lid, move a lever over the lid to start it, and it would wind up to 2000 rpm's in about 30 seconds. It had a drain spout on the side of it and you could watch all that water just belch out of that cylinder. It made the drying only take about 15 minutes. Even then, in 1978, I knew the French were much smarter than we about energy conservation. I still want one and am waiting for Miele to market them here.
Made the mistake once of not putting the rubber web on top of the laundry. Two of my cotton T-shirts ended up shredded. But damp dry.
You do notice that the only time rinsing is mentioned is at the picture of the hose connected to the faucet, "wash and rinse water pump into sink..." While you could wash several loads in the same water, rinsing, if done in the machine, required that the wash tub be refilled for each load or two. Getting 11 gallons from a bathroom sink faucet, even before flow restricting faucets, takes some time.
I wonder if anyone using the dryer thought to place it in front of a radiator during the heating season to boost the incoming air temperature? When I moved into a house without a 220 volt outlet for my DE806, I ran it on 120, but placed it in front of a radiator. The whole dryer, cabinet and drum, stayed nice and warm and the air intake grill on the back was right against the radiator. It really reduced the drying time.
I wonder if anyone using the dryer thought to place it in front of a radiator during the heating season to boost the incoming air temperature? When I moved into a house without a 220 volt outlet for my DE806, I ran it on 120, but placed it in front of a radiator. The whole dryer, cabinet and drum, stayed nice and warm and the air intake grill on the back was right against the radiator. It really reduced the drying time.
toggleswitch
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Ah yes but 2,000 RPM alone does NOT tell the whole story. The diameter of the tub COMBINED with the RPMs is what determines G-force and ultimately the amount of water extraction.
My Hotpoint 80's electric dryer is working on 110v (in the kitchen) in that my residence does not have 220v. I find that when the oven or top-burner are on in the kitchen, clothes dry quicker. Of course, one has to be careful not to run the dryer when cooking smelly things, or the load will stink!
That dryer BTW does not have a cool-down period. Found one at a garage-sale. The vent is only 3 inches (76mm) in diameter instead of 4" (102mm).
My Hotpoint 80's electric dryer is working on 110v (in the kitchen) in that my residence does not have 220v. I find that when the oven or top-burner are on in the kitchen, clothes dry quicker. Of course, one has to be careful not to run the dryer when cooking smelly things, or the load will stink!
That dryer BTW does not have a cool-down period. Found one at a garage-sale. The vent is only 3 inches (76mm) in diameter instead of 4" (102mm).
redcarpetdrew
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Not really...
There is no room for a fill solenoid nor is there any way of controlling it. It came with a hose with a 'boot' at one end which slipped over the end of the sink faucet. You then turned the sink on to the desired temp and filled the tub much like a wringer washer.
RCD
There is no room for a fill solenoid nor is there any way of controlling it. It came with a hose with a 'boot' at one end which slipped over the end of the sink faucet. You then turned the sink on to the desired temp and filled the tub much like a wringer washer.
RCD
macboy91si
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OH OH OH OH
Thank you so much! That made my day. I have a little set of these and they are wonderful. I saved these scans and printed and framed them with my little Porta-Pair. Thanks Gansky!
-Tim
Thank you so much! That made my day. I have a little set of these and they are wonderful. I saved these scans and printed and framed them with my little Porta-Pair. Thanks Gansky!
-Tim
launderess
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Great Scans! Thanks for posting!
Twin Tub Rinsing:
Much like wringer washing one simply either must be prepared to use lots of water and have allot of time, or deal with various amounts of residue (detergent, soils, etc).
Unlike wringers however, spin rinsing in a twin tub *can* give good results, but only if the load is small enough to allow good saturation with fresh water. A mixed load of various items can be "spin rinsed", that is items soaked with water, then spun out quite well in my Hoover TT, but large items such as sheets and such really require a deep rinse.
Mind you, since both Hoover's and Maytag's extractors (Hoover's was faster),had such high rpm spins, more soap, water and residue was removed from wash compared to many larger washing machines, however the trade off was one having to deal with all that noise. The Hoover spinner is not exactly quiet.
Having the small Whirlpool portable washer, one can see how fully automatic washing machines killed off twin tubs. One or two loads in my Hoover is *ok*, but more than that and the process gets old quickly. Cannot imagine doing a full week's wash for a family of four using a twin tub.
Filling A Twin Tub:
All depends upon the flow rate out of the faucet.
Before we had new fittings placed in the kichen and bathroom, both pumped out water so fast that in the case of the washing machines and dishwasher, units would finish filling long before the time alloted on the timer gave out. Now things are slower.
Hair Styles in Brouchure:
All were *very* popular in the late 1960's and through the 1970's. Most all female television sitcom characters of the period (Samantha Stevens included), sported one or the other at one point. The exception being Mrs. Mike Brady, who wore that short pixe cut.
Twin Tub Rinsing:
Much like wringer washing one simply either must be prepared to use lots of water and have allot of time, or deal with various amounts of residue (detergent, soils, etc).
Unlike wringers however, spin rinsing in a twin tub *can* give good results, but only if the load is small enough to allow good saturation with fresh water. A mixed load of various items can be "spin rinsed", that is items soaked with water, then spun out quite well in my Hoover TT, but large items such as sheets and such really require a deep rinse.
Mind you, since both Hoover's and Maytag's extractors (Hoover's was faster),had such high rpm spins, more soap, water and residue was removed from wash compared to many larger washing machines, however the trade off was one having to deal with all that noise. The Hoover spinner is not exactly quiet.
Having the small Whirlpool portable washer, one can see how fully automatic washing machines killed off twin tubs. One or two loads in my Hoover is *ok*, but more than that and the process gets old quickly. Cannot imagine doing a full week's wash for a family of four using a twin tub.
Filling A Twin Tub:
All depends upon the flow rate out of the faucet.
Before we had new fittings placed in the kichen and bathroom, both pumped out water so fast that in the case of the washing machines and dishwasher, units would finish filling long before the time alloted on the timer gave out. Now things are slower.
Hair Styles in Brouchure:
All were *very* popular in the late 1960's and through the 1970's. Most all female television sitcom characters of the period (Samantha Stevens included), sported one or the other at one point. The exception being Mrs. Mike Brady, who wore that short pixe cut.
launderess
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Should also add, where nature had not provided, hair pieces, wigs and falls were used to make up the difference.
macboy91si
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Maytag A50
A couple of things to add:
1.) Maytag uses an induction motor for the spinner, it is a very quiet spinner, it's quieter than the wash motor on a Hoover.
2.) Spin rinsing is not recommended in an A50. My opinion of this is if you own an A50 and you spin rinse with enough water to do the job, you are shortening the life of your spin motor terribly. These are just not set up for that, the motor takes a lot of load on startup, and it gets very warm if you strain it. I thought, because I was used to a Hoover, that surely one spin rinses in all twin tubs. I discovered how hot the spin motor got in the Maytag when laboring to speed. Spin speed is roughly 2000rpm btw.
Porta-matics are great, but there is something that lures me to the twin tubs. The Hoover is my favorite, but sometimes its nice to roll out the Maytags for a "quiet" wash
-Tim
A couple of things to add:
1.) Maytag uses an induction motor for the spinner, it is a very quiet spinner, it's quieter than the wash motor on a Hoover.
2.) Spin rinsing is not recommended in an A50. My opinion of this is if you own an A50 and you spin rinse with enough water to do the job, you are shortening the life of your spin motor terribly. These are just not set up for that, the motor takes a lot of load on startup, and it gets very warm if you strain it. I thought, because I was used to a Hoover, that surely one spin rinses in all twin tubs. I discovered how hot the spin motor got in the Maytag when laboring to speed. Spin speed is roughly 2000rpm btw.
Porta-matics are great, but there is something that lures me to the twin tubs. The Hoover is my favorite, but sometimes its nice to roll out the Maytags for a "quiet" wash
-Tim
Which came first: Porta-Pair or Porta-Potty?
Love the brochure!
You can almost hear the crackling static on on the man made fibres the models are wearing!
I wish some had been shipped to the UK - the dual impellers look like they give more 'oomph' than the Hoover type, and I guess the reversing leaves the wash less tangled at the end of the cycle.
How does the washtub drain? Does it have a separate pump, or a combined one with valve?
Very surprising that you have to rinse in the washtub though. I only know of one British twin tub where one couldn't rinse in the spinner, and that was because the machine had no pump, and emptied via a spout. Even though spin rinsing can be a bit hit and miss, it's a lot less hassle than having to keep draining and refilling the tub. The models in the brochure look improbably serene! I've always admired the rinsing tube in Easy twin tub spin cans, and I think it's quite odd that Maytag made their machine significantly less convenient than other manufacturer's products, quiet spin or not!
You can almost hear the crackling static on on the man made fibres the models are wearing!
I wish some had been shipped to the UK - the dual impellers look like they give more 'oomph' than the Hoover type, and I guess the reversing leaves the wash less tangled at the end of the cycle.
How does the washtub drain? Does it have a separate pump, or a combined one with valve?
Very surprising that you have to rinse in the washtub though. I only know of one British twin tub where one couldn't rinse in the spinner, and that was because the machine had no pump, and emptied via a spout. Even though spin rinsing can be a bit hit and miss, it's a lot less hassle than having to keep draining and refilling the tub. The models in the brochure look improbably serene! I've always admired the rinsing tube in Easy twin tub spin cans, and I think it's quite odd that Maytag made their machine significantly less convenient than other manufacturer's products, quiet spin or not!
macboy91si
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A50
I have attached a crude diagram of the drain system. The drain setup is nearly identical to the Hoovers that you are familiar with. The machine's 1 pump is belt driven from the spinner motor and is attached to a spring loaded arm that acts as a belt tensioner much like a Maytag automatic. There is a diverter valve with front panel control used to select which one to drain.
I assume that the motor that is used is simply not powerful until it gets up to speed, it doesn't handle strain at startup very well and takes a bit to get up to speed. This is my guess for the slip-belt and spring-arm pump housing.
The dual impellers WOULD be better if the tub were larger, but as it stands the tub is just too small. The wash tub is deep but small diameter, if you overload the machine which isn't hard, you get similar tangles as a Hoover. The reversing I think mainly allows for more movement of the clothes in that small space. If the clothes stop moving in one direction, which they sometimes do, it reverses and sucks them back down the other direction. The machine is only 24" wide as the Hoover is 29" and the Servis based units are 32" wide so it's tiny. It doesn't handle large items well like plus size khakis and only one pair of jeans per wash cycle.
This machine is just a different breed in many respects than most European units, I'd say the motors used being the biggest difference, but size and characteristics as well. The lack of spin rinse also deals it a blow on that market. If it were introduced on the market there it would have failed horribly I believe. For the US market, in which this was a much more out of the way niche market it survived on the Maytag name and the size. That's not saying it was a hot seller, but sold enough for Maytag to make them from 1970 to 1982.
I enjoy the A50, even for it's short comings. If you use the matching DE50 like I do, the wash and dry times (roughly 60 minutes per basket) sync up with each other nicely. The pump drains the wash water out in about a minute flat and so it's not that bad for me, I also use conditioner in the rinse so with a deep rinse, spotting is less likely. I think portable was the key and Maytag won that one, it's to my knowledge the smallest domestic twintub made. It's a solid built machine that's long lasting. The size to me makes the slight compromises more reasonable.
-Tim
I have attached a crude diagram of the drain system. The drain setup is nearly identical to the Hoovers that you are familiar with. The machine's 1 pump is belt driven from the spinner motor and is attached to a spring loaded arm that acts as a belt tensioner much like a Maytag automatic. There is a diverter valve with front panel control used to select which one to drain.
I assume that the motor that is used is simply not powerful until it gets up to speed, it doesn't handle strain at startup very well and takes a bit to get up to speed. This is my guess for the slip-belt and spring-arm pump housing.
The dual impellers WOULD be better if the tub were larger, but as it stands the tub is just too small. The wash tub is deep but small diameter, if you overload the machine which isn't hard, you get similar tangles as a Hoover. The reversing I think mainly allows for more movement of the clothes in that small space. If the clothes stop moving in one direction, which they sometimes do, it reverses and sucks them back down the other direction. The machine is only 24" wide as the Hoover is 29" and the Servis based units are 32" wide so it's tiny. It doesn't handle large items well like plus size khakis and only one pair of jeans per wash cycle.
This machine is just a different breed in many respects than most European units, I'd say the motors used being the biggest difference, but size and characteristics as well. The lack of spin rinse also deals it a blow on that market. If it were introduced on the market there it would have failed horribly I believe. For the US market, in which this was a much more out of the way niche market it survived on the Maytag name and the size. That's not saying it was a hot seller, but sold enough for Maytag to make them from 1970 to 1982.
I enjoy the A50, even for it's short comings. If you use the matching DE50 like I do, the wash and dry times (roughly 60 minutes per basket) sync up with each other nicely. The pump drains the wash water out in about a minute flat and so it's not that bad for me, I also use conditioner in the rinse so with a deep rinse, spotting is less likely. I think portable was the key and Maytag won that one, it's to my knowledge the smallest domestic twintub made. It's a solid built machine that's long lasting. The size to me makes the slight compromises more reasonable.
-Tim
Simon!
"the dual impellers look like they give more 'oomph' than the Hoover type" - I think you need to wash your mouth out with a large spoonful of new improved Drive young man!
As you well know (cos you posted the vids on YouTube) there is no wishy-washy action with Hoover!
The Pulsator Boiling Action Correction Squad is probably heading south from the Midlands as I type .....
Al
PS In spite of her loading the washing into a HM5054 the close up indicates agitator action
"the dual impellers look like they give more 'oomph' than the Hoover type" - I think you need to wash your mouth out with a large spoonful of new improved Drive young man!
As you well know (cos you posted the vids on YouTube) there is no wishy-washy action with Hoover!
The Pulsator Boiling Action Correction Squad is probably heading south from the Midlands as I type .....
Al
PS In spite of her loading the washing into a HM5054 the close up indicates agitator action
Shame on me!
Can we go for non bio powder though, Al? Allergies and all that ;-)
The only washing machines I've used in the last three years have been my two Hoovers, surely that counts as a penance, hehehe! In fact, after the last running repair carried out on my HMDL (pulsator, housing, spin mount and resilient bearing), I couldn't resist telling my other half that it would probably be good for another 37 years, although he didn't quite share my joy in that knowledge!
I've slightly modified the HMDL to improve turnover, it copes much better with heavy fabrics now. Please don't tell anyone, but I think Hotpoints are actually the best type of twin tub...
:-0
Si
Can we go for non bio powder though, Al? Allergies and all that ;-)
The only washing machines I've used in the last three years have been my two Hoovers, surely that counts as a penance, hehehe! In fact, after the last running repair carried out on my HMDL (pulsator, housing, spin mount and resilient bearing), I couldn't resist telling my other half that it would probably be good for another 37 years, although he didn't quite share my joy in that knowledge!
I've slightly modified the HMDL to improve turnover, it copes much better with heavy fabrics now. Please don't tell anyone, but I think Hotpoints are actually the best type of twin tub...
:-0
Si
Almost forgot...
Thanks for explaining the Maytag, Tim! Hadn't realised it was so small, I just assumed the ladies in the brochure were Amazon women!
As far as tub rinsing goes, I suppose it depends on one's water pressure - my water pressure is low, and can take 10-15 minutes to fill the Hoover tub - saw your youtube videos and was astounded at how fast you could fill your 519!
Simon
Thanks for explaining the Maytag, Tim! Hadn't realised it was so small, I just assumed the ladies in the brochure were Amazon women!
As far as tub rinsing goes, I suppose it depends on one's water pressure - my water pressure is low, and can take 10-15 minutes to fill the Hoover tub - saw your youtube videos and was astounded at how fast you could fill your 519!
Simon
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