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The popularity of stacked W/D's tells me this idea will have ears out there listening.
McMansions are not as cool with the younger set with the dough as is urban living.
Apartment space seems to be limited by some sorta law, in the U.S. at least, so this design angle could
benefit.
All they do is have to function for a max of 10yrs by the new reckoning consumers seem to accept.
Computer aided design and new wash technologies (beads for one) may dovetail into this as well.

I cheer this on regardless, how could you not if your an appliance fan?
 
As good as it all sounds, it reminds me a lot of the Dyson Contrarotator: cutting-edge technology to revolutionize the way we do laundry... and in the end it's a financial loss for the manufacturer and the buyers.
 
This article is a joke, right?

My advice - "stick to tablets and I-pods." I love how these entrepreneurial types always want to 'change' things they know nothing about. Let alone take into account what consumers really want.

We must quickly and unequivocally acknowledge, that these 'entrepreneurs' are responsible for much that is extremely undesirable in today's world.

Laundry is best done by people who know what they are doing and we should stick with designs that have proven themselves over time. 'Modern' or 'new' isn't always better and most of us still live in the real, not virtual, world where things happen in real life and not in some electronic device.
 
Washer Dryers

"Washer Dryers havnt changed in 70 yrs" hhmmm, do we know the spin speed and residual moisture content after spinning of this model?

If this has a large dryer heater and fan unit to get rid of all that moisture like the 60`s models then it could work, but if this is aimed at apartment users, dont we have regular feedback that many apartments dont allow outside vents to be installed.

After a separate washer and dryer a washer dryer is a compromise but workable, I`m in a studio apartment and have Servis Vestel model, 9kg wash , 6kg dry, 1400rpm spin, 65ltr drum - 2.2 cu ft, just did all my Whites in one load, 16 t-shirts, 4 hand towels (this registered 3kg on the sensor) ..took 1.28 to wash @ 60d and then 65 mins to dry, condenser dryer. Dryer has sensor settings, I use hanger dry setting and just enough moisture to smooth flat or quick iron!!

Gonna be an interesting watch on this Marathon one!
 
Call me "old school" but can someone please tell me why in the hell ANYONE needs a full keyboard, internet (and cloud) access via their washing machine?!?!?!?!

The idea of a (220V or gas/vented) W/D combo is great, really! Especially for that price, IF they can make it work AND have good (great?) washing / drying performance, without having to be re-booted every few wash loads!

Kevin
 
It all sounds like a very cool idea.  The issue I am seeing is the huge gasket made out of rubber.  I can't see the gasket lasting very long with "normal" dryer high heat with either electric or gas as the source.  I wonder if the drying temps are lower? 
 
Why so much negativity?  No one has really seen, let alone used the product yet so many are dumping on it.  Yeah, it's different in some ways, better?  Who knows.  Let it get on the market, see some test runs then evaluate.  Just because it's different does not mean its bad - or good for that matter.  Wouldn’t many of you naysayers be surprised if it was open source and you could make it do things other machines could not---
 
It's not a new idea

Ariston had a washer dryer in the 80s and the dryer part was vented. I had one. Not sure you could fix a flex pipe on it but it did have a filter on the back of the machine to catch the fluff
 
@mattl

The thing is, if it is open source, who has the computer ability of us to actually do something with it? I surely don't.
Further, if you rewrite Linux to work on a WD combo, and try to sell it, you don't make it open source. Period. You developed it, and if you want to make money off of it, you let them pay.
And I'm not even sure if they'd be allowed to. Somebody trying to fiddle with, disabling some temperature checks, burning down his house, and Marathon has to pay.

So far, we are just criticly thinking about it as if we would have to market it. WD combo that really replaces both units fully: Write me in.
A small, highly computerized machine, with a market about as big as the combo market is right now, developed by somebody who says stuff like "washers and driers aren't that big of a difference": I'm sceptical.
 
The machine will surely not be open source, remember this is an ex Apple exec pushing this ;) With a machine like this allowing users to alter the software would only create a nightmare of potential problems for the manufacturer.

As for the durability of the boot, it will probably be well longer then that of machines in the past. Rubber and polymer technology has made great advances in the past 60 years. Just because all the Westinghouse boots have failed, doesn't mean this one won't easily outlast the design life 10-15 years of the machine. It will come down to the quality of the manufacturing and design which of course remains to be seen.

I like the idea of having a machine be connected and having a touch screen interface. Properly made electronics are VERY durable and will hold up just fine. In our machine shop, it's never the electronics that fail, it's the mechanical bits! Of course there is the possibility that they will cheap out on the electronics but that remains to be seen. A common thing I see with people judging the reliability of appliance electronics, is looking at electronics from 15-20 years ago. Reliability has become far better in recent years with advances in technology and just learning what works and what doesn't.

I second Matt's comments. Lets see this in the flesh before we Monday morning quarterback it to death.

My hunch is that it will fail for the same reasons that all the other combo's did here in the states. The electronics may actually help its viability!
 
Mike,

Well I'm not really the combo expert here but my understanding goes along these lines.

The typical US household tends to batch their laundry so come wash day there are a few loads to do. With all the washing/drying all in one machine the effective throughput is ~1/2 that of a pair of machines. Add in the fact that a combo machine could cost what a pair of traditional appliances costs then about all that is saved is the floor space.

The other issue is that American's have long held the top load washer as the standard and haven't embraced horizontal axis machines the way most other countries have. (As an aside, see also: The Metric system...)

In Europe where space and water are more scarce, I have the feeling that combos are considered in a bit better light then here in the states.
 
 

 

Very well put Phil!   

 

Mike, this may (or may not?) be helpful.

www.automaticwasher.org

U.S. Washer/Dryer combos: when was their arrival, demise and departure?

Someone just posted a comment on my You tube page under my video of Roberts ’58 WP combo. They referenced a European combo and said: “A friend in England has one, and if its performance was like most, there's a reason they failed in the US market. It took half the day and left the clothes still...
www.automaticwasher.org www.automaticwasher.org

 

Kevin
 
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