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You can use the rinse and spin but that's a preselected water level
You can use the rinse and spin but that's a preselected water level
Friend Called.. They got a new Maytag TL Washer
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New whirlpool built top load washers
Most people are very happy with these and they’re building between 10 and 20,000 of them a day, I agree with others you’re only gonna see negative reviews on the few machines that people don’t like, never a bad idea to read reviews, but don’t take them too seriously You’ve got to be able to do some statistical analysis if you’re going to read them figuring out how many are built and sold, etc.
No top loader ever built. Did a good job on a king size comforter if you wanna wash things like that and get them uniformly clean, you’ll need a large front load washer, yes, you can push them in there and get them clean enough as it usually not that dirty but it’s not ideal.
John L
Most people are very happy with these and they’re building between 10 and 20,000 of them a day, I agree with others you’re only gonna see negative reviews on the few machines that people don’t like, never a bad idea to read reviews, but don’t take them too seriously You’ve got to be able to do some statistical analysis if you’re going to read them figuring out how many are built and sold, etc.
No top loader ever built. Did a good job on a king size comforter if you wanna wash things like that and get them uniformly clean, you’ll need a large front load washer, yes, you can push them in there and get them clean enough as it usually not that dirty but it’s not ideal.
John L
The only thing that drives me crazy about the new Whirlpool/Maytag washers is that people do not under stand that Cold water is 67-72F when laundry manufacturers and detergent companies mention it. if you are in the northern states and Canada our water is colder than that on the hottest day of summer. It cuts the life of all the new top loads in half. When you see a detergent commercial that says "we are Canadian, we KNOW cold water", throw your shoe at the TV. If you are in the northern half of the US or further North, NEVER use a temp setting colder than Warm and you will have a washer pump and transmission system that works perfectly for 10-12 years. If you insist on tap cold water it will be dead in 4-5 years. Also there is an issue with that washer in the first post due to Panasonic making a bad batch of electronic board thru-hole pressure sensors. Then they discontinued them so there is a back order on all the Whirlpool WTW4850, WTW4855, Amana NTW4519 and Maytag MVW4500 and MVW4505 control boards. As a retailer and servicer, I miss the serviceability of the older machines, but we can still fix most boards as long as the electronic parts are available and the manufacturers have not covered them in "waterproof" epoxy.
mark_wpduet
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Even here the water is FREEZING cold in the winter....I can't remember using the cold fill setting... at the very least it's always warm, most of the time hot... I knew cold water wasn't good for the machine in terms of build up... I had no clue it could shorten the life in other ways if it's too cold. I thought all the modern machines used mixing for all temps now
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Manufacturers are not interested in Goodwill anymore.... It's all about the god of this world.. 
... Can't take any of it out with you
... Can't take any of it out with youI put the machine in the OP into the top load high efficiency category. Do any of them turn over the contents? Do any of them do comforters? Plenty of people like them, so they must do a minimal job or they wouldn't sell, but I think a front loader would work better. As for me, I am sticking with my fabulous SPEED QUEEN TC5.
So…. You don’t know that most if not all washers are now Auto Temperature Controlled?
If you’re local water is too cold, the ATC will adjust to add hot water so your “cold water wash” is at least 65deg F so detergent can work best.
TAP COLD is the setting that will get you the temp of whatever comes to your house.
If you’re so concerned just don’t ever use TAP COLD.
I prefer a deep rinse. Today's spray rinses don't work as well.
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Can you go into details, why Cold Water will cut the lifetime of a washer? You stay it shortens the pump and the transmission? First time I ever heard this.
kenmore_elite
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Wish I had room for one of these. I think they are Milton washers.
This is not actually true.
Yes there is ATC, however if you use the Tap Cold setting, it adds no hot water. also, with the minimal water that is used, by the time the hot water has reached your washer from the hot water tank, your washing machine is half full of tap cold water and the cold water in the pipe from the hot water tank. Also all rinses are Tap cold. It works on paper and in labs, but not the real world, especially not in Canada in the winter.
It does it in several ways. Cold water causes Grease and oils to thicken. All of the more efficient washing machines use smaller lower power motors with transmissions that are more heavily geared. When the grease thickens, it causes the motors to work harder, pulling more electric current, and cause issues with the electronic control boards primarily in the relays. Also, detergent does not dissolve well in cold water so there is more residue build up with in the machines, sometimes causing excessive corrosion to portions of the transmission/ agitator shafts which can cause seal failure. Also, what you are primarily trying to remove from clothing is body grease and oil. Think of it like a roasting pan when you cook a turkey. Do you wash it in cold water? of course not. The grease would congeal and be twice as hard to remove. In a cold water wash, the grease and body oil congeals and does not get broken down as well with the new enzyme based detergents because in cold water they freeze up and do not work. You end up with more residue, more build up and eventually more corrosion. This was the downfall of many a Front loader as well, Especially the Maytag Neptune.
