Frigidaire 1-18

[pdub]

jetstream & soapnsuds

To answer your question on turnover for small and mini loads, the turnover is good but the action seems a little harsh with so little water and I feel they work best on gentle speed when washing a load this small.

I can guarantee you'll be impressed with the wash action of the 1-18 machine. I can't answer your question on the wash capacity to a Norge since it's been years since I've seen one and it was in a laundromat.

I'll post some more pics soon of more control panels. They came from a 1976 Frigidaire service booklet that I have.

I sure wish I lived near those warehouses in PA and GA that seem to be brim full of 1-18's.

Here is a pic of a set that I picked up at this past fall.

Patrick

 

[pdub]

mickeyd

As far as a suds return I have never seen one. There are references to part numbers for these setups and on the back of the machine below the D for drain there is an S which is probably where the suds return hose outlet would have gone.

I don't think anyone has ever seen one and maybe it was one of those things you had to order and no one did. There is not even a reference to them in the use and care guide.

Patrick

 

[peteski50]

Top-o-the line

Oh yes that Top Of Line is a real beauty. I wish I had that one for myself.
Peter

 

[soapnsuds]

Now there's my set!

Nice set Patrick! I have the Harvest Gold WC-6 1976 washer and have been trying to find a dryer to match forever! But I have to admit, the Avacado is my favorite. They look sooooo nice side by side. I'm just green with envy!!

Thanks for the excellent pic's!!
Have a great night--James

 

[jetstream]

Thank's for reposting the pic of the WEG Patrick. It's a real beauty.

I'm going to strive for that model or the WCI which basically is the same except it has rotary knobs. MIRACLES can happen.

I love that the WCI has a Hand Washable agitation speed but, doesn't have the Spin Only cycle option and a 5 infinite water level selector.

Glad to know the Jet-Cone washes very effective for smaller loads because some agitators can only clean larger loads.

I've read from Westytoploader that the 1-18's TURNOVER power decreases when using too high a water level.

I notice that alot of the washing pics and video washloads aren't full-to-capacity. Does that mean you cannot load clothes past the top circulator ring, beyond the tub rim.

What about your experience?

Is your 1976 GM Frigidaire service booklet something you had in the past or did you buy it recently? If you did, I love to get one also.

Does it show pics of the other features in the washer, if so, please post them.

I'm in NY closer to PA , what warehouse are you talking about that is filled to the brim with 1-18's.

Please tell me more.

Your set is nice.

Harry

 

[pdub]

jetstream

The service literature booklet (or actually sections to go into a large binder) is something I ordered through WCI-Frigidaire back in the early 80's when I acquired a '76 WC-6 model. At the time you could still get this stuff from Frigidaire by calling an 800 number. Unfortunately this stuff is no longer available.

The other pics the literature shows are mainly service related, not general pics of the machine.

There are some other members here (lightedcontrols, gyrafoam, trainguy, etc.) who reside on the East Coast who have very impressive collections and have posted pics of what look like warehouses full of machines and so this is what I was referring to. Look through the Photo's of Collections tab on the main screen and you'll see what I mean.

Good luck on your search for a top of the line set. The bug has bitten!

Patrick

 

[mayken4now]

pdub:

Tis I dahlin' who has ownership of the console only to the 1-18 elite! Yikes, I need to get it put on a washer.

Steve

 

[pdub]

Steve,
I knew someone had just the control panel but couldn't remember who. That's right, the Frigidaire guy gave it to you. You lucky man! Did he happen to say how long they produced a model like this? I was thinking maybe it was the last year before the WCI switch but could be wrong.
Patrick

 

[roto204]

Norges and Norgetags versus the 1-18

In terms of capacity relative to my 20-lb. Norge, the 1-18 kicks it in the head and sends hit home crying. But a lot of that depends on what you're washing. The Fedders Norge is a very capable machine, but bladed agitators don't do well with huge, bulky items, like our California-king comforter, which the Norge can't do anything with, and the 1-18 rolls like a charm. It all depends on your needs and what you're looking for in a washer.

Part of that is also due to the 1-18's deeper tub and higher fill, too.

For the Norgetags (modern Maytags with a Norgesque underpinning and dual-action agitator), I find that they're capable but still not as capacious as the 1-18, mostly due to the fact that the ones I've used don't fill all the way up. Unlike the Fedders Norge or the 1-18, however, they are quiet!

I have found that, for very soiled laundry, the Norge cleans better than the 1-18, depending on what sort of soil it is.

 

[jetstream]

Roto204

If the 1-18's Jet-Cone agitator could rollover a Cali-King comforter with ease its washtub must be (3.4 or 3.5 cu.ft) in size.

Whirlpool/Kenmore have some, if not the deepest washtubs in the industry.

Your Whirlpool design 2000 washer tub is (3.0 cu.ft) and is 16" deep from (bottom of tub rim-to-tub bottom).

W/K (3.2 cu.ft) tubs are (16 5/8"),how do you think 1-18 tub compare to them.

What kind of agitator(pics) did the Fedders Norge have?

Why and how can it clean better than the Jet-Cone agitator?

 

[roto204]

Dragalation

Hi jetstream,

Well, cleaning's a matter of perspective. The Norge has a very aggressive agitator wash pattern and some huge vanes at the base that really whack things around. I think that, for really dirty stuff, it really moves detergent and water through the clothes...moreso than the Jet-Cones. Just because something has incredible turnover doesn't mean that it forces a lot of that water through the clothes. Conversely, if something doesn't turn stuff over, you can be sure it won't get very clean (or, it'll come out with a ton of cat hair/lint on it from the stagnant water areas).

The Design 2000 washer tub is capacious and extremely deep but very narrow. It has a very tall agitator, but not a lot of space outward from the agitator through which clothes can move. The 1-18 tub is wide and deep. The Norge tub is wide but not very deep.

Here's a Norge agitator similar to the kind I have (except my agitator pumps water for lint filtering, or "burpalating"). This is from mrmaytag's photos:

 

[roto204]

You can see my Norge wash in this video that Austin made

 

[roto204]

Also...

I don't find that my 1-18's turnover diminishes on the maximum water level if the clothes amount is great enough to match.

I do find that overfilling with water for the load provided does make the performance wimpy. If it's crammed full, and set to max water level, it does the job

I'll try to make a video this week showing the comforter on full water level to illustrate.

 

[jetstream]

Hey Roto204

I remember the "Turbosweep" agitator in the Norge washer.

I pick out my uncle and aunt Norge when they replaced their Whirlpool back in '83.

The Turbosweep was a nice agitator, it just couldn't rollover jeans on a low or medium water level setting.

Roto204 I wondered, what if the Deep-Action (agitator diaphragm) is wider in diameter than the Jet-Cones.

A wider base would provide even stronger pulsating surges which will force more water through the clothes at the bottom. What do you think about that?

Do you know anyone who owns both a Jet-Cone and a Deep-Action agitator that can compare the agitator diaphragm (base-size)?

If it's wider, we very well can enhance the cleaning power of the Jet-Cone agitator by interchanging the AD's. That excites me!!!

 

[jetstream]

Roto204

A video would be FANTASTIC!!! I can't wait to see it.

Can you include a spinning one also?

 

[jetstream]

Roto204

Still waiting for that video showing the cali-king comforter in action.

Where does the MAXI water level fill stops at in the tub with the agitator?

What model 1-18 washer do you have?

 

[westytoploader]

I have the same exact 1-18 washer as Nate except in Harvest Gold...a Model WC. The Maxi water level stops about 3/4 of the way up the upper cone, an inch below the top "ring" on the agitator.

FWIW, I tried washing my stuffed Full comforter in my machine, and it didn't do much. Thick items like this are better suited to the double-loaders at the laundromat. I think Nate said something at the wash-in about having good results with his, which surprised me.

You probably should think about attending a wash-in sometime if you're interested in learning more about a certain machine. Many times when you see that machine in person you answer your own questions right there just by looking at it and examining it. There's definitely nothing wrong with posting questions, but trying to find out every single minute detail can sometimes come across as a bit Gwisdalian (LOL). Also, while it is nice every once in a while, not everyone has the time to make a video of their machine...I know I don't! So it may take some time.

And that is a COOL 16-pound Magic Chef...it may be BOL, but it sure is SWEET. With the narrower tub, I bet that agitator can make some waves!

Austin

 

[jetstream]

a bit Gwisdalian

Westy

The reason why I asked this question is because the 1-18's that have a drawing of the Jet-Cone and water levels on the selector has the (Maxi) setting at the top of the agitator cap.

All of the pics shows the level at exactly the area you described.

Most of, no all of you guys have access to or own all of my favorite vintage washers.

I never imagined there would be a website about washing machines and people who loved as much as I do.

Pictures, videos and discussion posted of washers, who would of thought.

Anyone who takes the time to make videos of washers inside and out is cool.

I know it's not a usual thing.

NOT IN A MILLION YEARS.

So forgive me for coming across a bit Gwisdalian (LOL).

I don't mean any harm, I'm a "single minute detail" kind of guy because I'm also interseted in the designing of the washers as well.

I live in an apartment and only have room for one washer.

BTW, where are these wash-ins held? I iive in New York.

And how is your Maytag (Orbital Trans.) with the "Power-Fin" working?

I'd never imagined that combination.

Harry