frigidaire spin tube dishwasher pics

[rollermatic]

i thought i was done

collecting dishwashers after last year but the uniqueness of the "spin tube" type of wash system i could not pass up! it was worth driving 14 hours yesterday for!

i've heard from members here that they were lousy machines as far as performance goes but i don't care. this machine is a big part of appliance history, to me at least and after trying it out a few times it will just be in the collection, not used to actually wash anything.

and this is one that i may put a peice of plexiglass on the front of so i can actually see the water action inside. it's gotta be fun to watch!

thanks for lookin, enjoy!

 

[appnut]

Peter, I'm glad you got this and saved it.  I'd forgotten you'd ended up with this.  I remember the posting about it.  the color is more of a Sunny Yellow I think.  Since it's just you, it will be fun to use it a couple of times.  Fortunately, this had a "short wash" setting on the dial and many people I know who had these, because everything was so rinsed off because they wouldn't clean, bypassed the regular cycle for that shorter one.  Thee werre bilt a lot better than successive Frigidaire dishwashers.  the builder of the building probably got a really good deal on the appliance package for that high-rise, with these included.  I'm sure many of these units wren't used a lot in that building. 

 

[combo52]

FRIGIDARE SPRAY-TUBE DISWASHERS

These machines washed quite well if you loaded them properly, many owners did not ever figure out how, but Robert will tell you how well these work.

 

[roto204]

Seconded

Copious hot water and good detergent--with proper loading--and you'll be really surprised.

 

I had to redo all the cork seals on mine (just bought gasket material and cut my own), but everything turned out fine in the end.  When we first found it and brought it home, it looked great, and then Greg and I filled it with water, and it shot streams of pressurized water in all directions out the sides of the pump housing.

 

My impeller also had a crack in the middle where the motor shaft was being forced through the plastic.  (I JB Welded it, sanded it, and it never caused an issue.)

 

[a440]

<span style="font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: medium;">Great find!</span>

<span style="font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: medium;">Best of luck with the first wash.  </span>

<span style="font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: medium;">It really cleaned up well!</span>

<span style="font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: medium;">Brent</span>

 

[dishwashercrazy]

Pete, I am glad it was you that got this machine, but wish I knew ahead of time. I was bidding against you - Sorry. I already have the one that came from Ben.

Please see my link to Pauls thread on his Frigidaire, starting with Reply #10 for the use and care guide on the 1956 machine.

Mike

http://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?27569

 

[dj-gabriele]

With a machine like that you could only wash dishes, there was any provision to wash pots and pans?

Would have, encrusted stuff come clean?

 

[appnut]

Gabriele, answering your two questions.  You had to load extremely carefully for any pots and pans and that took up valuable space sometimes.  also it dind't clean encrusted stuff that is for sure.  Main wash (first wash) was about 7 minutes long and if you owned a higher end model with 2 detergent cups, one covered, then the 2nd wash phas ewas about 5 minutes. 

 

[rollermatic]

thanks for all the input

appreciate the comments and info.

well, so much for it not leaking, i just put some hot water in it and it leaks in about 4 places around the pump. have no idea exactly where, don't want to ruin the motor finding out.

so it's coming off, pump and motor. what do i have to lose. if it's just leaking around gaskets and not main pump seal i can fix it.

will post pics as i take it apart, may start tonite. any tid bits will be appreciated. and i know from paul not to over tighten anything!

mike don't worry about our bidding against each other, no big deal really. kinda funny actually! i just hope i can get it running.

again thanks to all for your comments, now the real work begins! how to try to fix it without destroying it!

 

[steved]

Hang on a minute!

Pete, this model has an improved mounting system for the motor that you can't really overtighten. However, the screws tend to get rusty and need some help getting loose. I wouls spray some sort of rust-buster on them and let it sit overnight. I had to drill the screws out on mine so I replaced them with stainless steel screws. I have this model that was originally a Dishmobile but converted to a built-in.
The cork pump housing gasket tends to dry out. I have replaced mine with more modern gasket materials. I think " Frigidaire = GM" so I often look at auto parts stores for stuff like that. SteveD

 

[steved]

1964 model

If you notice the drain valve says Dec 1963. The DUF model was made for 2 years 1963 and 1964. When the 64's came out they did introduce a "H" model Deluxe Dishmobile DW-DMH. The only difference from the DW-DMF was the wider chrome handle and the newer cabinet assembly without any visable screws. The Unicouple was on the top rather than the back.
But there was never a DW-DUH model.

 

[rollermatic]

thank you for the info and the

parts pic! it's very helpful.

i just took it all apart and it came off like a dream! pump seal looks great! rubber grommet looks great too. screws are a bit rusty, will replace them with stainless as you suggest.

here's the pics.

 

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this rubber

grommet seems very pliable and not dried out at all.

 

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pump impeller

unscrewed off the pump shaft very easily. i was surprised! the seal surface looks very good!

 

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close up

of seal

 

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this half of the pump is cast iron

and i will clean up the mating surface before putting on a new gasket that i will also have to make from scratch, as suggested to me above.

 

[rollermatic]

pump impeller looks great

it cleaned up nicely.

 

[rollermatic]

the seal mating surface is

made of brass and looks fine.

 

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i also took off the

drain valve and scraped off the old cork gasket.

 

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i thought this peice

was cast iron but it's plastic.

 

[rollermatic]

i'll make a new

gasket out of rubber. i buy rubber squares at home depot in plumbing dept. they work great for gaskets!

 

[wringingwet]

I am so happy that some one

got to add this to the collection ... I salivated over it when I saw it on ebay .. great for you

Philippe

 

[rollermatic]

the fun part will be

making a new gasket for the plastic half of the pump. scraping the old cork off should be easy. i just hope i can find a big enough peice of gasket material to use. gonna hit the auto parts stores first.

i really think after seeing how good the pump seal looks that with new gaskets it won't leak anymore. i feel much more optimistic about it than i was before i tore it apart tonite!

thanks again for all the advice and comments! this spin tube is turning into a fun project!

 

[steved]

gasket

I replaced the cork with a strip of 3/4" closed cell foam weatherstripping.
I applied it adhesive side down, starting at one of the mounting holes. Then I trimmed it at an angle from the adhesive out. I outlined the pump plate all around, then overlapped it at the angled cut. At that point the adhseive side sticks to the starting point. Finally, I trimmed it so it would all be the same thickness. Not one drop since! When I tried to use rubber it seemed to leak no matter what I tried. Be sure to "punch" the holes out carefully. I just used a nounting bolt and tapped it with a hammer lightly.
Please excuse my rough drawing but hopefully it makes it clearer.

 

[steved]

PS

I should clairify that I mounted it to the Plastic part, not the cast iron part!

 

[norgeway]

I would !!

Love to have one of these, they did a pretty good job, were especially good with crystal etc, my cousin had one when I was a kid, a 61 Custom Imperial,he bought a new Kitchen Aid in the early 90s and had it hauled off, If I had any idea he was going to do that I would have had it, it looked and worked like new, his new wife hated it and wanted one she could put pots in!

 

[steved]

Sales sheet

1964 retail price was $ 269.95

 

[steved]

little metal square piece in post #501383

Referring to the metal piece in the back of the tub was over the water inlet. If the water pressure was too high, the water fill would reach the front of the tub and rinse the detergent away in the pre-flush cycle. This tab prevented that. A simple non-mechanical fix that worked! Especially when there was only one wash with detergent.

 

[appnut]

new wife hated it and wanted one she could put pots in!

Smart woman.  She knew a DISH washer when she frustratingly tried to use it. I cannot tell you how many times I either saw, or I heard my parents' friends complain about their Frigidaire and KitchenAid dishwashers because they ended up being run half full a lot in suberbia.  When the top rack was full of glasses, the bottom was pretty empty lots of times, but they turned on the machine because you couldn't put any more glasses in because you couldn't put them in the bottom rack. 

 

[dishmobile01]

Magic Chef Spin Tube

My folks built a new house in the late 1960s complete with Magic Chef appliances including a spin tube dishwasher (our neighbor had a Frigidaire job similar to the one pictured above). Complete with pilot light and rotating dial, there was no doubt when the Magic Beast was in operation and my mother did not use it if a conversation was to be had within less than a mile. It rusted through rapidly and was replaced with a Frigidare (sans spin tube). Thanks for the pics of the Frigidaire.