Frigidaire Washer vs. Kenmore Washer advert. -- Vid' on 'YouTube'

[daveamkrayoguy]

Although I have long-been a fan of Frigidaire washers, I'll admit the pulsator agitator had admittedly become antiquated in comparison to the newly-introduced dual-action Kenmore design...

Needless to say, the "Chop!..., Chop!..., Chop!" agitator motion of the Frigidaire ("Low Sudsing" detergent required????) just seems to be suffering from a bad case of "Suds Lock"!!!!

Now what do you think?

-- Dave

 

[appnut]

That was a scenario put together by our on JasonL.  It's not the real commercial. 

 

[tolivac]

It looks like the Frigidaire washer has a larger load than the Kenmore.

 

[yogitunes]

while the Frigidaire does seem overloaded....the original was actually a "Frigidaire" commercial to show how long it took for the Kenmore to get a "sock" down under to where the wash action was, and rollover, compared to the Frigidaire sucking the "sock" under in seconds and reappear over and over......not to mention in reality the DualAction corkscrew only functioned when put under a "strain" of a heavy load, otherwise it would index back and forth with the bottom part of the agitator, Kenmores commercial, in a clear tub machine, showed how it moved a black sock around a heavy load, with turn over of 3 or 4 times during a wash period.....

 

[philr]

Like the ad in this link?

 

[philr]

Oops... It should work better like this!

 

[jetcone]

Nice recreation

but it does look like the F is overloaded. Great choice of music too!

 

[daveamkrayoguy]

After seeing "The Real Deal-Comparison",

It's the "Jet Cone" for ME!

Wonder why in the long history of "lazy back 'n' forth motion", that this "up 'n' down design" still hasn't made a comeback?

-- Dave

 

[kenmoreguy64]

"not to mention in reality the DualAction corkscrew only functioned when put under a "strain" of a heavy load, otherwise it would index back and forth with the bottom part of the agitator"

That may have been true of the first DAs with that spring and notched auger (most especially in a partial water level) the second generation DA, which came out within 18 months of the original (which has the agitator dogs), indexes very little if at all, even when in a zero clothes load, as long as it is lubricated properly.

I do agree though that the Fridge is overloaded and doesn't look to have the same size load as the KM.

Gordon

 

[yogitunes]

Very true Gordon, about the next gen of DA's....I would say the better machine would be the Fridge....both have pros and cons.......I'd be more curious if these were the same exact loads....Kenmores claim has always been the largest usable capacity, and it did wash a very large load......I always liked the DA's for moving difficult loads like blankets and sheets, but can't be sure for my limited use of a 1-18......

when was the last 1-18 made?.......I thought WCI took over in the late 70's to early 80's with their plastic designs......

 

[appnut]

Truth Be Told

ya gotta remember, the video Jason shot purposely stacked the Kenmore to purposely come out winning like a champ (after all, Jason is a Kenmore man and so the Kenmore has to wint).  And the Frigidaire was very much overloaded.  Now, when we had the Texas wash-in at DaDoES house, as well as a former membr's house, I took REAL "BobLoad" of towels to put in Austin's 1/18.  The load actually equialed two 3/4 full loads of towels I'd put in the Shredmore.  The machine rolled and washed that load of towels to perrfection without nary a complaint or choke. 

 

[Unimatic1140]

Ooooh no ya don't

So about seven years ago or so I set out to test the difference in washing methods between a 1957 Kenmore washer vs. a 1958 Frigidaire washer. I had the club vote at that time which agitator would be used for the Kenmore test, the choices were a Straight Vane, Roto-Swirl, Super Rotor-Swirl and Whirlpool Surgilator. The guys chose the Surgilator.

I took five pair of jeans size 31/30, set the machines for warm wash and full water fill and let 'em go. Notice how I load the machines to what is best for each type of machine.

These videos are old now and not up to our 2011 quality standards, I'll have to re-do them at some point with a newer camera, but you can still clearly make out the wash action.

The first video is the Kenmore:
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Second video is the Frigidaire:
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Third video is the same two videos shown side by side for comparison:
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I'd say both machines have their advantages and disavantages in washing. What do you all think? Discuss...

 

[appnut]

I still say the Unimatic beat the pants and sox off the Kenmore!!! 

 

[300c]

I'd give the edge to the Frigidaire...and then there's that 1140 rpm spin speed!

 

[a440]

<span style="font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: medium;">Fun Videos Robert!</span>

<span style="font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: medium;">Brent</span>

 

[yogitunes]

theres pros and cons.....and actually both did a rather decent job.......thanks Robert for making it equal with the same exact loads......

I was just re-reading the Kenmore DA Ad.......although this DA does a decent job of moving the load and improves cleaning, I can't get over the gimmick....their using an 18lbs machine, and only put in a 15lbs load??????.....I first bought a DA when they were available in the catalog to fit Kenmores in 1981, and installed it in my Whirlpool, I have to admit it allowed for a larger load to be washed, and truly functional in moving the larger load down to where the cleaning zone, I did not understand why they didn't incorporate the 6vane baseless rotoflex agitator instead of 4 vanes......also funny to compare with a Whirlpool, all in all, the same machine, at this point they could have added another Kenmore with a rotoswirl for comparison

What model of Kenmore are they using in this test?.....puzzled by 4 buttons for options.....I figured water level, water temp, cycle modifier....suds saver?...end of cycle buzzer?...

 

[mrb627]

Honestly

I would have expected the GE to clean rings around that DAA.  They seem to power-rollover a load without a cork screw...

 

Maybe the machine tested had a straight vane in it.

 

Malcolm

 

[macboy91si]

GE

Malcolm, I believe the GE, if a large tub model, would have still had the straight-vane in it in 81. I tend to agree with you, the ramp moves the clothes a lot. The only thing about the ramp is that it is so smooth, there really isn't a lot of "scrubbing" like there would be with the Kenmore base. The clothes do move around in the water a LOT in a GE though, and I think the result would have been comparable if not better.

 

It appears that they are testing the DA against a Whirlpool directly to the right as well? I can't tell if that's what the 1st machine is. The GE is a Dispense-All machine so 81 may have been about right? I think the Dispense-All lasted through 84? Maytag is probably a 10 series. I hope they used the big-tub versions of the rest of the manufacturers for a more accurate test.

 

-Tim

 

[daveamkrayoguy]

I remember a 1963 GE Appliance ad stating that GE "invested 3 Years & 3 Million Dollars into its Relentless Washing Action"...

I would guess there'd be a lot to show, from what I've seen & read about...

(& if not for the kinship bet. W/P & K/M that "GE in disguise" would come in 2nd place!

-- Dave