I have seen a FL F+P advertised with 1200rpm spin and ?6.5kg capacity. Who makes these? Are they any good?
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These machines are rebadged Beko. (Made in Turkey.)
I would not touch one.
Chris.
I would not touch one.
Chris.
Well, Fisher & Paykel have stuff in Australlia that we don't have in the USA. They have those Front-Loaders, They have a version of the AquaSmart machine that only has buttons and no LCD display simmilar to the EcoSmart, and they have standard no-drawer dishwashers.
The F&P Relationship carries on with Whirlpool in AU
Hi Peter,
Fisher and Paykel only make the TL washers, the dryers and Refridgeration (Possibly the Stoves and ovens) The non dishdrawer Dishwashers are Whirlpool and as Chris says, the FL washers are also rebadged.
The neighbours of Michaels mother, have just replaced their Hoover Zodiac with an F&P frontloader, and are very unhappy. The shortest normal cycle runs to about 1:20. Michaels mother takes great delight in reminding them, that if they'd bought a proper machine, like her Miele, that it'd be done in 40mins.
I just bought my Mother the new Entry level Miele W1511, and compared to the featureless entry level Miele of old, its a great machine. The cost after the water rebate is $1299.
Regards
Nathan
Hi Peter,
Fisher and Paykel only make the TL washers, the dryers and Refridgeration (Possibly the Stoves and ovens) The non dishdrawer Dishwashers are Whirlpool and as Chris says, the FL washers are also rebadged.
The neighbours of Michaels mother, have just replaced their Hoover Zodiac with an F&P frontloader, and are very unhappy. The shortest normal cycle runs to about 1:20. Michaels mother takes great delight in reminding them, that if they'd bought a proper machine, like her Miele, that it'd be done in 40mins.
I just bought my Mother the new Entry level Miele W1511, and compared to the featureless entry level Miele of old, its a great machine. The cost after the water rebate is $1299.
Regards
Nathan
FunGuy, Kenmore drawers are a different design that are not from F&P.
Funguy - Stop Generalising
Yes the Dishdrawers are designed and made by F&P.
The Australian FL F&P dryers are NZ Designed. They have nothing to do with GE. F&P created the design back in late 70's and with a few refinements is still in use today. The design was also used in the Australian Hoover and then Westinghouse dryers up until the Hoover name died and the Westinghouse dryers started being made in Korea.
Have a look at the link below.
Yes the Dishdrawers are designed and made by F&P.
The Australian FL F&P dryers are NZ Designed. They have nothing to do with GE. F&P created the design back in late 70's and with a few refinements is still in use today. The design was also used in the Australian Hoover and then Westinghouse dryers up until the Hoover name died and the Westinghouse dryers started being made in Korea.
Have a look at the link below.
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www.fisherpaykel.com.au
In a press release from a few years ago, F&P stated that they weren't interested in developing/producing front loading washers. They did not see a future competing in that product category, as their traditional markets primarily demanded top loaders. Instead they would continue to concentrate on developing products in line with broader consumer tastes.
Their re-badged front loader line-up isn't all that spectacular. I guess they are responding to those consumers who are specifically looking for a F&P branded front loader, without having to develop an entire new range of appliances.
Their re-badged front loader line-up isn't all that spectacular. I guess they are responding to those consumers who are specifically looking for a F&P branded front loader, without having to develop an entire new range of appliances.
F&P News.....
F&P have just announced a joint venture into the European markets with a Turkish manufacturer
Fisher & Paykel Appliances plans to greatly increase its European sales through a partnership with a Turkish whitegoods manufacturer and distributor nearly six times its size.
The newly signed strategic alliance with Arcelik Corporation will enable distribution of FPA branded appliances in Eastern Europe, Commonwealth of Independent States (former Soviet Union members), and the Middle East through Arcelik's network.
The deal also gives FPA access to some of Arcelik's products, such as front-loading washing machines popular in Europe, which FPA does not make. The products would carry the Fisher & Paykel brand.
F&P have just announced a joint venture into the European markets with a Turkish manufacturer
Fisher & Paykel Appliances plans to greatly increase its European sales through a partnership with a Turkish whitegoods manufacturer and distributor nearly six times its size.
The newly signed strategic alliance with Arcelik Corporation will enable distribution of FPA branded appliances in Eastern Europe, Commonwealth of Independent States (former Soviet Union members), and the Middle East through Arcelik's network.
The deal also gives FPA access to some of Arcelik's products, such as front-loading washing machines popular in Europe, which FPA does not make. The products would carry the Fisher & Paykel brand.
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www.smh.com.au
The current FP FL machines are Turkish, Arcelik make Beko branded washers.
I have seen Beko / Arcelik front loaders branded as Beko, Hoover, LG and now F&P.
Chris.
I have seen Beko / Arcelik front loaders branded as Beko, Hoover, LG and now F&P.
Chris.
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Thats funny
Could you imagine trying to sell Arcelik branded appliances in Australia?
Could you imagine trying to sell Arcelik branded appliances in Australia?
Arcelik - Leaves a nasty taste in the mouth, doesn't it?
chris.
chris.
A friend of mine has an "Altus" washer, which is also a rebadged Beko.
I have seen it run one time and I think it is an excellent performer.
He has only a basic 5 kg, 1000 rpm modell but it washes and rinses very well and is relatively silent.
I think it was a real bargain for 199€
I have seen it run one time and I think it is an excellent performer.
He has only a basic 5 kg, 1000 rpm modell but it washes and rinses very well and is relatively silent.
I think it was a real bargain for 199€
Beko
Not all Beko (indeed, not all Turkish) products are bad.
And I really think we should all curb our tongues a bit. The gods know I can be rude and unthinking at times...but I am trying to be less so.
If I wanted to read a nasty, spiteful site full of cattiness, I would just trot on over to Vacuumland...
Not all Beko (indeed, not all Turkish) products are bad.
And I really think we should all curb our tongues a bit. The gods know I can be rude and unthinking at times...but I am trying to be less so.
If I wanted to read a nasty, spiteful site full of cattiness, I would just trot on over to Vacuumland...
Speaking of F&P, I saw their top loading dryer the other day when I was picking up a big box of Persil. Very interesting design... sort of liked the "lint receptacle", but have no idea how well the dryer works. Now all they need is a top loading H-axis washer to match
