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Normal cycles is approx. 43 minutes from first lid lock. With a high spin speed of 800 rpm, dry time on normal or eco normal set at medium dryness is less than 35 min. on a moderate load.
 
Yeah I see your point too. Even better with the SQ because it's new. My GE Filter Flo is fast for washing but the matching dryer takes a solid hour to dry a load of towels on high. A new dryer would probably cut that time down. But now I'm waiting for the dryer to get done, as opposed to waiting for the washer to get done on the Kenmore 28102 I had. LOL
 
Not quite sure, but you'll need at least 2 loads to wash this load of towels in your SQ.

And thus, 2 loads in the dryer.

This means 27+40+40=107 minutes (1 hour and 47 minutes) which takes into account your 2nd load is running in the washer while the dryer is active.

While, once again, using about 2-4 times the water and quite some more energy.

And, further, the time argument is mostly invalid. The time your machine runs is not the time you are doing laundry. The time you take is loading, transfering, folding.
For example, with the time shedule I had to day I would THEORETICLY have done this: I came home at 5:30pm, would have loaded the washer as I come in, make dinner, eat it, put stuff in DW, and it's 7pm. Pop the load in the dryer, write this post, watch some YT, fold them.
With your SQ, I'd basicly have to do each step twice.
 
Your washer has a 3.4 cuft tub, if I remember correctly (haven't been on the SQ page for ages).
This is a 4.5 cuft tub. Without an agitator.

This tub is about full.

And there reasons put down for HE machines. Within this thread. Several times.

Again, I want to clarify:
You can have an opinion. I respect that opinion, even if yours differs from mine.
As soon as you bring up arguments pro&#92contra something that are based on a fact, and I'm not your opinion, I will bring up my arguments based on facts.
I don't want to change your opinion, as long as your opinion has a solid factual base.
If you can disproof me, I'll recognize that and say that you have better arguments.
As long as you don't have them, I won't.
So there is no reason to go rage-mode.
 
I'm not so sure about that Glomain

I'm the only one who does laundry, and I was sick a few weeks ago with the flu. I let the laundry pile up and when it was finally time to do it, I DREADED it.

If I had on old top load washer, I would have had 6 loads of laundry I'm guessing. I was able to get it all done in 3 loads in my Duet FL washer without overloading it, but they were large loads nonetheless. The dryer took a little longer because the washer can handle so much more than the dryer, but I get the feeling I got my laundry done faster than if I had had a regular quick TL washer from the past. Each load was 1 hour and 10 min's, with heavy duty/extra rinse.

Anyway, I came across this the other day. Would you just look at the amount of clothes he put in that machine? And cold water all the way.... but they seem to LOVE their machine.

http://https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSsWjgLzdXw
 
HE machines, especially the newer ones like Mark posted above DOOOOOOOOOO work. I get having opinions, but like Henene said, facts are facts. I've used just about every type of washer out there, new and old and from experience I can state that most do a great job. There are def some turds out there, but doing research and getting opinions (from people that actually have used the product or type) will net you good results. I don't need anyone to convince me that and old clunker is better than a new shiny machine...because I already know, they both work just fine. It's all about personal preference and THAT's IT. Gosh darn it. ;-)
 
@glomain - No, the load that was in the Bravos translates to exactly two full loads (loaded loosely/PROPERLY to the lip of the tub) in the 3.6 cu.ft tub of the Whirlpool agitator washer I have in the garage. Have tested it many times. The 4.8 cu.ft of the Bravos, paired with the fact that the agitator is low profile and also operates differently, (ie. not needing to swing broad paddles back and forth through dense clothing and water like a traditional machine) brings the total -safe- capacity of the machine to a little over twice the capacity of a typical 3.4 to 3.6 cu.ft agitator washer. If you want to stuff that much into your Speed Queen, be my guest, but I guarantee that you'll incur some heavy wear and possible damage to the drive system, and also your fabrics, and if not, the load will most certainly not go anywhere and won't come out clean or even rinsed properly.

Preferences are preferences, and everyone is entitled to what they prefer, but facts are a different story. Also, it is impossible to argue, when the evidence is right here, that a properly designed and properly used HE top loader fails to roll over and effectively move even a heavy load of clothing fluidly and continuously, as well as properly rinse and spin them dry enough to give ease to the dryer.

Also, personal point here, but I never see the big deal when someone complains about cycle times on a dishwasher or washing machine. I'm not really understanding who could be honestly biting at the chain to get the dishes out and put into a cabinet or the clothes put away. The machines are doing the work while you chill at the computer or TV, all you have to do is pop them in and out once they're done. They're not going to fly away if they sit for five minutes. I'd rather them run longer if it means saving energy in the long run and putting my valuable detergent to good use rather than spitting it down the drain in 5-8 minutes. My clothes are much cleaner than any traditional machine I've had before simply because the detergent is getting the time it needs to actually work.
 
Mine is 3.6 cu. ft.

What seems like a dilemma to me is that there are so many opinions, and different problems associated with these vertical modular machines.
Never the issue with old belt drives, or even the early DD gear case shredmores.
Our laundry was washed well, and there were fewer problems, save the occasional broken motor coupling, or malfunctioning timer.
A shopper told me hers lasted twenty years.
Common sense? Seems to have gone away at some point, but is it here, or does doo doo roll down hill?
 
Common sense just isn't common anymore, if it ever really was.
I also think people in general just aren't that mechanically inclined as they think they are, or not at all because they don't care.

There was a scene from Boardwalk Empire that sticks out in my mind.
VanAlden was having a tiff with his 'wife' because the "washer belt broke again."
She was made because it was going to take a week for a replacement.
VanAlden curtly snaps at her, "thinks just aren't made like they used to be."
....
This is Boardwalk Empire! Prohibition. In the 1920s.
Bitching about shoddy appliances!
Or was it user error?
LOL.

Some things never change.
 
It's true...everything old seems so much better than everything new, when it's new. Case in point, when I was a kid growing up in the 80's my dad used to go on and on about how much better cars were built in the 50's and 60's...now in car forums I hear people saying how bad cars are now and how great they were in the 80's hahaha. It's just human nature I guess...though some of it is true too.

Seriously John, get your act together before you post here! hehehehe ;-) Same thing happens to me...then I end up editing my posts 5 times.
 
Mark

you are talking a front loader,well that's true about capacity, I bought new duets in 2008 & hated them from the get go(so glad their gone)that's how I ended up joining this site,if I would of known the crap these companies are trying to sell I would of not of gotten rid of my old whirlpool set from 89 that never had a repair.
 
re; clicking sounds from Bravos,

is it as the tub coasts down from spin, or one click, followed by a louder one when the tub is still?
The louder clicks when the tub is still is the mode shifter engaging and disengaging the splutch for agitation, or spin. Ticking clicks on the spin coast down is either the suspension springs (normal) flexing, or a bad gear case.
 
You hated your duets?

My duets are 11 years old now and I've love the HELL out of them. Only one repair during it's 2nd year but it was under warranty.
 
@vacerator - There is no gear case or splutch at all on the true Oasis. The rotor and agitator are directly connected with one shaft. The tub basically sits on a hub disc with teeth, where the inner hub of the tub itself has teeth that sit into that disc, so without water, everything is all one piece rotating as one unit. It's not until filling that the basket floats up half an inch or so and lifts away from the toothed hub on the shaft, which is what disengages the shaft and agitator from the tub entirely. The popping usually only happens during the constant slow rotations during the Catalyst recirculating phase, but usually go away once it spins any faster than that. Now, the new flagship Cabrio/Bravos/Oasis design -does- have a gearbox, basically for torque conversion. Instead of the single phase motor, belt, and splutch from the VMW version of the CaBravOasis, they now have the BPM motor direct-mounted to that gear box. As far as I know, it has a sort of modified splutch where it locks the tub only when it needs to turn the basket, and I'm guessing it's an electromagnet of some kind because in the videos CruellaUrsula has of his new machine, you can hear a faint electrical hum whenever the machine locks the tub.

@ptcruiser51 - Then don't watch it, please. Seriously, did a bus full of trolls unload here recently or something?
 
Andrew,

Yes, I know all about the old true Oasis, but they are no longer in production.
Whirlpool has abandoned the DD hall sensor rotor and stator design.
Yes, we have all unloaded on here including you.
If you've read any of my early posts, I said I am not one to be messed with.
Obviously, MR. Greg Bushman saw that and decided to let me have it, and I gave it right back to him.
 

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