GE 2800 On Facebook in MI

[michaelz08]

Was browsing Facebook for no good reason, and this listing for a GE2800 came up.

Everything I know about it has come from this forum, of all the computer-integration attempts the appliance companies made in the 80s this remains one of the most interesting to me.

Hopefully it finds a good home!

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1642453723039004/

 

[maytaga806]

I saw this the other night, I always browse for used dishwashers to see what gems are still out there. Another typical lazy lister, can’t take the one second to open the door and take a shot of the interior.

 

[mattl]

Nice DW,had one for about 10 years in the 80's.  At the end it developed a few issues.  Wash arm has a magnet that is used to sense if the arm is blocked from turning. IIRC if it throws an error the machine stopped. This started happening often. The second more problematic issue is the seals started to break down and everything was coming out with tiny black spots. 

 

Prior to those issues it was an outstanding performer. Hope this one finds a good home.

 

[combo52]

GE 80s GSD 2800 dishwashers etc.

This was a fairly remarkable achievement for GE these top-of-the-line machines with food filtering in multi or bar were the first dishwashers GE ever built that really worked well.

Like all dishwashers, they developed problems as Matt recounts, the black rubber, boot, and hoses that were used on these dishwashers whirlpool other companies had problems as well would start to breakdown from the chlorinated phosphate detergents that were used at the time And you would get little black specs on things.

The multi orbit wash arm on the GE dishwashers would have trouble turning as it started to wear out, the worst thing about these GE dishwashers was limited loading in the lower rack and the lack of cleaning in the corners of the upper rack so GE changed the design in the 90s. And added a real top wash arm.

GE put a lot of development and engineering into this model so it had relatively few problems for quite a few years. The worst thing they did is they used the same cheap motor they used in their $59 dishwashers in these top-of-the-line machines with no improvement so you had a very noisy inefficient motor where the seals went bad both for the trip valve and for the main shaft seal eventually, the good thing was you could replace the whole assembly, but you had to remove the machine and some installations to do so sometimes you could get it in from underneath when it was installed.

John L

 

[Chetlaham]

Longest Lasting Dishwasher Ever Made

GE dishwashers did not have any issues cleaning the corners, top or bottom rack. The motor and main shaft seal easily out lasted 30 years, having more longevity than any other dishwasher ever made. The white permatuff rubber was worse, under very high temps over years at a time would cause it to deteriorate into a soft mush. Common with Potscrubbers where the water heater was near the machine or inlet temps were above 140*F. The black rubber boots held up much better, most of the time deterioration was not a problem.

 

[mattl]

Well as someone who owned and used a 2800 for years, yes it did work very well, and yes at EOL it left  black rubber spots on everything.

 

[combo52]

Best main dishwasher motor

Oh my God Chet you gave me the laugh of the week, to think that that GE motor was the best ever. What the heck do you think KitchenAid was doing wasting their time making a half horsepower motor with a stainless steel shaft and dual ball bearings and copper windings.

Sorry, GE discontinued that POS, it still stands as the worst motor in any American dishwasher ever nothing else was very close even. If you read GE documents, they knew all along they had a crappy motor the noise alone was amazing.

John L

 

[Chetlaham]

GE's motor were self lubricating, eliminated both failure points of the start switch and start winding, excellent volt hertz saturation ratio, thorough cooling, and extended shaft wear seal exceeding Kitchen-Aid's. Nothing rusted or corroded under normal use. GE motors also had the fewest premature failures when adjusted for the amount of Kitchen-Aids sold. 

 

There is nothing wrong with aluminum. 90% of the conductors between the power station and your home/business are aluminum or aluminum with a steel reinforcement. Most pole transformers have at least one set of aluminum windings, many power transformers are aluminum wound. Aluminum is only considered bad in the public sphere because the first production runs of #12 and #10 solid aluminum wire for home wiring used the wrong alloy. Otherwise you wouldn't even have known it was ever a concern. By the time the correct alloy came out the harm to aluminum's reputation had been done.           

 

[neptunebob]

Ken-Roar!

Chet, the KenRoar dishwasher made by GE in my basement does Roar!  I use it for things like broiler pans and roasters and barbecue grills that I would not use the kitchen dishwasher for.  John is right about this one!

 

[Chetlaham]

He is right about the noise. I addressed the rest, like the cleaning in the corners, which he was wrong about.

 

I have no qualms about using a dishwasher platform that beat Whirlpool in consumer reports and lasted 25 years on average.

 

[tolivac]

At work have two Square "D" transformers that are 4160V to 208/120V.They have aluminum primary and sec windings.The sec windings are strap-very heavy guage.Doing just fine.They are on an Eaton auto changeover switch so if one transformer should fail-switch to the other.The transformers are 500Kva.No transmitters run from these transformers.