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I hope everyone had a great holiday season. It gave me some time to fix the old GE Filter Flo I got on eBay the other week. Managed to fix rust and leaks in outer tub. Did an empty run first. Works great except that at the end of the washy phase, it pauses, starts to spin and pump out. However, the spray rinse starts before all the water has pumped out and then stops spinning before all water has been pumped out. It pumps out at a fair old rate, don't think there are any blockages. Anyone have any ideas what could be causing the spin to stop too soon or the water to not pump out fast enough?

Aside that, she works really well.

Cheers
Simon
 
Ge filter flo

I was thinking, and this kinda sounds like what my filter flo did about a year ago. But my problem was that i unwrapped the drain hose from the water inlet valves to extend the length of the frain hose. I would have to shake the drain hose in the spin cycle to get the little bit of water out, u could hear it start to drain again. U might want to check n see if the drain hose isnt unwrapped from the water inlet valves. "It is suppose to be wrapped around it". Its just an idea to check that, this is what my problem was... Doug
 
Cheers Doug, I might try that. At the moment I am setting the auto extra rinse to do a second deep rinse to ensure the load rinses properly. If I set it to low water level ther is no problem but on high water level it takes too long to empty. It is like the first spin and spray rinse is too short. Interesting that if I set it to mini wash basket the water level is lower that the regular min water level. It is like an extra low water level. The regular low water level fills to half way up the wash tub.

I am so happy with this machine. I just ordered a new filter tray from a US spares website. It only cost $9 US but $50 to ship to Australia. Really looking forward to that being delivered.

Happy laundering guys

Simon
 
this machine has a two speed timer! fast advance for mini quick cycle and slow for all other cycles. its stuck on fast advance!! easy to fix theres a speed shifter in the timer thats gummed up.have seen this on some hotpoints. hope this helps
 
Hi Tony, this sounds like the most likey cause of the short pump-out/spin time. Where abouts is the speed shift and what does it look lik? How does the washer know when the mini basket is being used? The only things I can see are the mini basket setting on the water level which I think just sets the water level at an extra low levle. There is also a cycle called quick mini cycle. Aside this there are no other settings so how does the timer know when to go faster if mini basket is being used?

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GE FF spray and pump

GE FF's always had the spray start pretty early in the spin, before the wash water was all gone. Kenmore, Maytag, GM 1-18 all had a longer spin before spray. But  GE's is a long spray and does a darn good job. Mine, however, then stops the spray and continues the spin for another minute, gets all the way up to high speed and full extraction before spin stops and the cycle advances. It sounds like your spraying is good, but either the pump is troubled or the timer. I don't have those answers, just knowledge of how mine works.
 
Thanks for that Mark. Spray rinse is great in the GE FF and does shut off the water flow shortly before the spin stops. My Maytag Atlantis has a really short spray rinse, pretty useless. The best spray rinse are in my Fisher &Paykel washers. Both washers have several spray rinses during the first spin, very effective. They both have a water save feature where you can omit the deep rinse and just have an extended spray rinse as the tub does a mixture of very slow spin mixed with a series of faster spins. Can't use fabric softer when using this feature. Mind you, a rarely use fabric softner, really don't like it.
 
Two speed timer on GE Filter Flo

Hi guys, took the control panel apart this morning to try and see if there was a speed shift that controlled the speed of the timer but couldn't see anything obvious on the timer. Found the schematic document which I will scan later and post if anyone is interested? I don't really understand most of it but it is interesting to look at.

I did a wash this morning and set the timer to 18 minutes. I didn't time it but the wash phase was a very quick 18 minutes and I noticed the final spin was very short on the regular cycle too. I do wonder if the timer is stuck on a faster speed for the mini basket setting?

Also, where will I find the model number on the GE Filter Flo?

Cheers guys

Simon
 
it may also be you pump.......I had on years ago, would pump out fine on an empty tub, but with a load, say for instance towels, all the water would pump out, but once the tub got up to full speed and extracted the water from the clothes, this extra water would not drain out, almost like an air trap into system, and you had to stop the machine, wait a second, and then restart to pump out the rest of the water.........oddly enough, I had to change the pump and it corrected the problem, although it didn't look like anything was wrong with the pump, go figure!

in those schematics, should be a little section on pump out times for each tub size, water without clothes, and how fast it should pump out from a full water level.......

the model number should be located on the lower left hand side of the machine, near the front.......

but yeah....reset you machine again to 18 minutes wash...and time it!....see what your results are.....

most of the mini quick option machines I have seen have a small toggle switch next to the timer control to select this.......but a linkage may be available also, but these machines usually had 2 minibasket level selections, one for regular speed, and one to make the timer move faster......

if there is a linkage, you would see it from behind the control panel.......

let us know how you make out
 
GE Filter Flo timer going double speed

Thanks for the heads up re where the model number is, found it right where you said it would be. I timed the 18 min wash with water level set to mini basket and again set to low water level and it took a little over 9 mins to complete the 18 min wash phase on both water level settings. So looks like the timer is stuck on fast mode for mini basket. I just cannot see how to locate the speed shift on the timer or the water level switch... I am reluctant to remover timer in case I bugger it right up.
 
Spare parts for GE Filter Flo

Found a great website from USA (appliance-parts-USA.com). They still stock parts for older GE washers. That is so cool. Trying to see if they have a new or rebuilt timer, not so sure they can come up with that but fingers crossed. I just cannot workout how to get the timer to go at normal speed rather than double speed for the mini basket. I am sure there must be some connection to the water level switch as this has a mini basket setting but no physical connection that I can see. Tony (eronie) you have lots in knowledge re this issue, any other ideas I could try if I can't get a new timer? Any and all advice really appreciated.

Happy new year to everyone

Simon
 
Control cable

Hi, in looking at the picture of the rear control panel there appears to be a control cable sheathed in a white casing that I trace back to the water level switch. If I'm correct that Is the control linkage you are looking for. If i recall correctly it attaches to a shifter on the front of the timer, not the back. The shifter controls a set of gears between the timer motor and the timer shaft. Hope this helps.
 
two speed timer stuck on double speed

Hi Bigalsf, thanks for your reply. I was also looking at the pictures the other day and saw the white wire at the top that went in to the timer, got real excited and went straight to the laundry room but when I looked there was nothing there, it is a reflection that is on the picture that looks like a wire. I was well disappointed! I am very tempted to remove the timer and have a closer look to see if I can find anything that looks like a speed shift, just a tad worried this may be a mistake??
 
So this evening I got brave and started to dismantle the timer. Took the timer motor off. It just had 2 wires going in to,it and had a small cog that interfaced with the cog that drives the camb shaft of the timer. A really simple device. Yet to venture further and remove the timer completely. Still can't see any way that the timer has a switch or some similar device to control a dual speed of the timer. I think I might have to try a new timer if I can get hold of one.
 

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