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Jerome, you had the good model, TOL!

 

 

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Minus the model T aspect, I'm envious lol! This would have been so epic lovely on a Filter Flo, especially with a two speed motor.

 

 

I'm sorry that you had to experience this in Model T flavor, that was just twisted. Let me be the one to say I'm sorry you and your dad had to experience that.  

 

Do you remember the model # of your filter flo? Or what cycles it had?

 

 

 

https://www.geappliances.com/appliance/GE-3-2-Cu-Ft-Super-Capacity-Plus-Washer-WWSE3160AWW
 
Ok, I'll ask. Whats wrong with fantasizing about a lighted multi cycle electronic control on a GE filter flo? 

 

Bear in mind you've restored 60 year old Maytags, have parts saved, and even go to the effort of modify the cycle timing from what was originally engineered.
 
Reply #130

I have no animosity towards anyone, but this is beginning to get kind of ridiculous. I can see someone going back to a thread of resurrecting or restoring a machine and documenting the tedious process, but when someone keeps on reviving just about every thread about a particular machine (GE FF and the crappy models that replaced them), it begins to get kind of old. Sure, I’ve revived a few threads regarding the Maytag HOH dryers but if there’s no interest, I just let it disappear into the abyss.

Jerome even kept on bugging me about my Whirlpool I acquired back in 2020 asking about making a full cycle video of it (that’s the Mark XII set in turquoise that surfaced back in 2019) when I literally had ZERO storage for a 30+ minute video at the time, just had enough for short video clips of it, that was it. Couldn’t make any videos of it anyways since I had it apart since one issue led to another and figured it was best to take care of things while it’s apart. Have it apart again as I type this, taking care of some more stuff while it’s apart, hopefully can have it up and running by the beginning of October sometime. I know people are anxious to see videos of a machine that’s not yet been seen or one seen in decades, but want to be sure everything is in working order before doing so. Would be kind of embarrassing to have it break down in the middle of a video. There’s a few others who kept on bugging me on YouTube about it but it’s here nor there.

On the other hand, have lots and lots of videos posted of my Maytag A806, going to record more and add it to the ‘vault’. Once the Whirlpool is all back together and timer working (should work, but won’t know until I run it through the cycles), going to add those videos to the ‘vault’ as well, if I keep on recording videos at the rate I’ve been, there will be enough videos for the upcoming years twice a week.
 
GE is not the only offending party

If you ask me, Whirlpool Corporation was a bigger offender. GE bastardized their own product. Whirlpool was far more stupid, as they destroyed not only everybody else's appliances, but then turned around and ruined their whole line of their own merchandise. I can understand buying out the competition, but they destroyed the quality of their own product line all of the way down the line. Just my opinion.
Hugs,
David
 
model t commercial washer

I remember they tried it with the model t commercial. I saw one in a dorm once when I went to TSBVI. That washer sounded like it was gonna fall apart during agitation. Oh, don't even get me started on whirlpool ruining everybody else like GE did!
 
Yes, thats it!

 

Not surprised but still surprised how tiny everything is. And those gear teeth look either too pointy or simply don't fit snugly together. The whole thing look like it was designed on the back of a napkin. Nothing like Speed Queen big, smooth running transmission.
 
wci

I can't forget about WCI being stupid like GE is. I'd say GE is the worst of the worst with their model T. I couldn't believe mine lasted for 17 years with all that racket. Oh, and in case I forgot, the suspension straps would knock the cabinet when agitating. GE's stupid! You're stupid, GE! If I took control of the company, I'd bring back the filter-flo.
 
Yes, Jerome:

General Electric and Westinghouse had long been competitors, and had started out with actually both building good appliances, so it's now neck to neck on their way to each making the worst...

 

 

 

-- Dave
 
GE and WCI

I think GE was worse than WCI due to that hanging suspension. At least the WCI/Frigidaire had a real suspension. Don't get me wrong, the GE model T that I had did get the clothes clean. You could hear the transmission really grinding on certain full loads like light colors. When I did whites, the transmission knock would be the most pronounced. Dark colors, the double knock would fade in and out along with the transmission whirr. This was always on normal/fast. It did sound similar to a Whirlpool direct drive.
Another thing I remember was the spiral top of the agitator would grind and you could hear a low muffled banging and grinding from underwater. And of course, You could hear the tub ring sloshing back and forth during agitation. At least the motor sounded decent despite the high pich whirr it made.
 
I'm with Jerome. I'm casting my vote as the model T being worse than WCI. WCI was mediocre and not made to be repaired, but at least it still cleaned somewhat, made much less noise, and was gentle. The model Ts were just a flat out noise making clothes jiggling clothing shredding LARP toy made to break after X hours of use. 

 

The motor itself was the only good thing on the machine. It was 1/2 HP induction, centrifugal start like most washer before the model T. Later versions went to PSC, which was also a good motor. This was before manufacturers began using smaller motors and/or VFDs.
 
1995 and later GE model T series top load washers

We’re great performing machines and top rated and most consumer magazines for the great performance.

They washed very well and they were the first GE to have a dual action agitator. They did not beat up clothing. They spun beautifully and quietly without any balance or walking problems.

They were the first GE washer not to have sand and lint problems. They did such a good job, flushing away, sand with a huge holes in the bottom of the wash basket.

Unfortunately, they did have transmission and brake problems, and they were not easy or cheap to repair when these problems manifest themselves, so they joined the ranks of many other automatic washers like the WCI machines Westinghouse top loaders before them Maytag dependable care machines, when you had serious problems with the transmission, main bearing, etc. the machines were generally trashing because of repair cost. That was the nice thing about whirlpool direct drive machines and the old GE flow machines. It was very easy to change a transmission and keep the machine running.

John L
 
1995 and later GE model T series top load washers

We’re great performing machines and top rated in most consumer magazines for the great performance.

They washed very well and they were the first GE to have a dual action agitator. They did not beat up clothing. They spun beautifully and quietly without any balance or walking problems.

They were the first GE washer not to have sand and lint problems. They did such a good job, flushing away, sand and lint with a huge holes in the bottom of the wash basket. We have kept and restored one for the museum as it is truly a significant machine in the history of automatic washers. The only top loop washer that gave it a serious run for the money was the direct drive whirlpool machines. The GE model T machines were about on a par overall with the Norge machines in performance and durability.

Unfortunately, they did have transmission and brake problems, and they were not easy or cheap to repair when these problems manifest themselves, so they joined the ranks of many other automatic washers like the WCI machines Westinghouse top loaders before them Maytag dependable care machines, when you had serious problems with the transmission, main bearing, etc. the machines were generally trashing because of repair cost. That was the nice thing about whirlpool direct drive machines and the old GE flow machines. It was very easy to change a transmission and keep the machine running.

John L
 
the name model t

So why did GE call them model T? Why did their transmission use a different lubricant and not the same one from their old batch? I would assume the model s was the filter-flo washer.[this post was last edited: 2/14/2025-15:42]
 
I suspect they wanted to call it the Model T cause, you know, because they wanted to mass produce it like the Ford Model T.

As mentioned, they had transmission and brake problems like John mentioned, weren’t exactly easy to work on from the videos I’ve seen on YouTube years ago.

Time usually filters out certain designs, while others stood the test of time better than others.
 
transmission lubricant

I suspect GE used lubricant from their transmissions from Ford. At least that's what I assume when they worked on their transmission design. I think GE Automotive and Ford Motor CO. probably designed the transmission. Unfortunately, it was way too small. Nobody stopped to think about it.[this post was last edited: 2/14/2025-16:38]
 
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