"New [oven] installs are 27" or 30"."
Meanwhile, me, a European, wonders why on Earth someone needs an oven the size of a crematorium.
Meanwhile, me, a European, wonders why on Earth someone needs an oven the size of a crematorium.
GE Undersink Dishwasher
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Reply #15
LOVE that kitchen!!!
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LOVE that kitchen!!!
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24" Wall Ovens
Regarding bradfordwhite's comment on 24" will ovens being basic;
I was fortunate to get a Kitchenaid Superba double electric oven at a huge discount (display model) in 2013.
Both ovens self-clean.
Top oven has convection.
It is really just as feature-packed as their 27" and 30" models were then.
Of course, that WAS 9 years ago now.
There IS a market for well-featured 24" wall ovens as not all people want to gut their kitchens just to replace an oven.
This is the third oven I've had in this house since moving here in 1970.
First was a "Custom Crafted" by Hotpoint, then a Roper and now, the Kitchenaid Superba.
Regarding bradfordwhite's comment on 24" will ovens being basic;
I was fortunate to get a Kitchenaid Superba double electric oven at a huge discount (display model) in 2013.
Both ovens self-clean.
Top oven has convection.
It is really just as feature-packed as their 27" and 30" models were then.
Of course, that WAS 9 years ago now.
There IS a market for well-featured 24" wall ovens as not all people want to gut their kitchens just to replace an oven.
This is the third oven I've had in this house since moving here in 1970.
First was a "Custom Crafted" by Hotpoint, then a Roper and now, the Kitchenaid Superba.
bradfordwhite
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#19
I'm not saying I agree with it.
All I use is a toaster oven and a air-fry oven which is even narrower than 24" oven and I don't have any problems.
I need my ovens to be portable as I almost always use them outside so the heat, humidity, and smell can just float away.
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#18 Tom
They've made them all these years since at least 1978.
Friend from childhood, her mother bought a brown 1979 portable model and it worked reasonably.
I'm not saying I agree with it.
All I use is a toaster oven and a air-fry oven which is even narrower than 24" oven and I don't have any problems.
I need my ovens to be portable as I almost always use them outside so the heat, humidity, and smell can just float away.
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#18 Tom
They've made them all these years since at least 1978.
Friend from childhood, her mother bought a brown 1979 portable model and it worked reasonably.
I put one of those GE DWs in a kitchen I designed many years ago. Customers were very happy to have a DW in a tight 1920's kitchen, used it for many years before moving on.
Side note also found a way to tuck a 1/2 bath into a first floor closet by stealing a bit of space over the basement stairs for a small sink. For folks with 2 young kids and one bath on the second floor it was a big improvement.
Side note also found a way to tuck a 1/2 bath into a first floor closet by stealing a bit of space over the basement stairs for a small sink. For folks with 2 young kids and one bath on the second floor it was a big improvement.
Re: reply #22
The principles of physics are against them providing equal and even wash action with anything but the most standard of items. We have had them in the shop. They cannot provide the evenness of washing that you get in a 24 inch dishwashers. I know how they work. You should have seen the one John rigged up with the 220 volt heater from a full size Kenmore dish smasher.
The principles of physics are against them providing equal and even wash action with anything but the most standard of items. We have had them in the shop. They cannot provide the evenness of washing that you get in a 24 inch dishwashers. I know how they work. You should have seen the one John rigged up with the 220 volt heater from a full size Kenmore dish smasher.
Some brands have two spray arms under the middle/upper rack to facilitate corner cleaning. I've seen it in Bosch dishwashers ten years ago, as well as Electrolux and Gorenje (probably others as well).
The undersink thing
GE had a couple of flings with appliances put under sinks. This mishegas started, IIRC, with a 1962 washing machine tucked under a stainless steel sink (much more useful, IMO, than a dishwasher--I mean, to paraphrase Anthony Bourdain, if your kitchen is that small you don't deserve a dishwasher).
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Thank you John L. for the pictures.
GE had a couple of flings with appliances put under sinks. This mishegas started, IIRC, with a 1962 washing machine tucked under a stainless steel sink (much more useful, IMO, than a dishwasher--I mean, to paraphrase Anthony Bourdain, if your kitchen is that small you don't deserve a dishwasher).
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Thank you John L. for the pictures.
The folks who used the one I put in were happy with it. It had it's drawbacks but having a DW far outweighed the issues. It all depends on your perspective.
Reply #28
Ken, you are correct! At the same time GE also introduced a companion High-Speed dryer that required the builder/installer to provide a field-installed top (maybe a top was optional with the dealer). There was no console and the controls were concealed behind the dryer door. Excepting the console, the dryer looked identical to all of the other GE dryers.
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Ken, you are correct! At the same time GE also introduced a companion High-Speed dryer that required the builder/installer to provide a field-installed top (maybe a top was optional with the dealer). There was no console and the controls were concealed behind the dryer door. Excepting the console, the dryer looked identical to all of the other GE dryers.
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and the dryer control was flat like a telephone dial. I wonder if they had to pay a royalty to WP for that set up.
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Pics are saved from (1) unknown circa 2020, (2-10) Combo52 and (11-12) MoparGuy circa 2012.
Hmmm, 30 to 40 mins for De-Wrinkle.
Pics are saved from (1) unknown circa 2020, (2-10) Combo52 and (11-12) MoparGuy circa 2012.
Hmmm, 30 to 40 mins for De-Wrinkle.
@pulltostart- Thanks! 
Its just so cozy!
I'm not going to lie, I kind of like it as well. I love the through the wall vent, and thinking about the wiring in the 80s GE range. And a door to the back common hallway where friends can pop by.
Its just so cozy!
I'm not going to lie, I kind of like it as well. I love the through the wall vent, and thinking about the wiring in the 80s GE range. And a door to the back common hallway where friends can pop by.
When my home was built in 1968 it had an undersink GE dishwasher. Â I have since remodeled and no longer have one, but many people still do in my neighborhood. Â It really did save cabinet space and that is what it was really good at. Â They are very pricey and not many bells and whistles.
bradfordwhite
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While I like the 70s retro decor, can you imagine functioning in this kitchen?
Can you imagine trying to get under that sink for.... anything? but especially to make a repair?
Trying to load that dishwasher while trying to get dishes out of the sink? There is like 10" between the dishwasher door and the parallel cabinet.
Can you imagine trying to get under that sink for.... anything? but especially to make a repair?
Trying to load that dishwasher while trying to get dishes out of the sink? There is like 10" between the dishwasher door and the parallel cabinet.
Reply #35
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<span style="font-family: helvetica;">How could anyone deal with that!!</span>
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<span style="font-family: helvetica;">How could anyone deal with that!!</span>
GE under sink dishwasher
Reply number 35, I guess if you’re obese that kitchen may not work but I certainly wouldn’t have any trouble working in it.
I just put a brand-new pump and motor assembly in this under sink GE dishwasher last week took less than 30 minutes did not have to move the machine just laid on the floor in but the motor in.
John L
Reply number 35, I guess if you’re obese that kitchen may not work but I certainly wouldn’t have any trouble working in it.
I just put a brand-new pump and motor assembly in this under sink GE dishwasher last week took less than 30 minutes did not have to move the machine just laid on the floor in but the motor in.
John L
Kitchen in #35
As a household of one, I love it. I love efficiency and efficiency would be required in a space like this. While it's almost vintage, it is missing one modern convenience - a microwave (I hate microwaves for that very reason, they just didn't exist way back then and there's no way to make them look right in a vintage kitchen).  In the past, I've hidden my microwaves in the pantry and liked that solution.
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One inaccuracy about this kitchen; the Mark 27 range is not original it appears. The hood is probably original and it includes the pushbuttons for the drop-in range. The replacement is newer (P-7) and includes it's own pusbbuttons across the top of the backsplash. It's the kind of uh-oh that you might find on a movie set.
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As a household of one, I love it. I love efficiency and efficiency would be required in a space like this. While it's almost vintage, it is missing one modern convenience - a microwave (I hate microwaves for that very reason, they just didn't exist way back then and there's no way to make them look right in a vintage kitchen).  In the past, I've hidden my microwaves in the pantry and liked that solution.
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One inaccuracy about this kitchen; the Mark 27 range is not original it appears. The hood is probably original and it includes the pushbuttons for the drop-in range. The replacement is newer (P-7) and includes it's own pusbbuttons across the top of the backsplash. It's the kind of uh-oh that you might find on a movie set.
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