GE Vortalux Fan Servicing

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I've been advised by another AW member that we have a GE Vortalux fan expert in the group. I'm hoping for some advice regarding the oil wick on mine.

I have a model FM12V1, I'm guessing it's +/- 1940 vintage, and it has a metal cylinder that screws into the bottom of the motor assembly and holds the oil wick. It's dried out inside, and the spring-loaded wick seems to be caked with dried up blackened oil residue. The fan is noisy upon start-up and on the two lower speeds.

Can anyone advise on the type of oil I should be using for this purpose and if there is any particular method for cleaning up the wick assembly?

We may have some of the hottest days of the year still to come over the next month and a half, so I'd like to have this fan in good working order. It can really move some air.

Thanks for any help,

Ralph
 
I have had pretty good luck cleaning up older, caked up fan wicks with rubbing alcohol. Sometimes the wicks are so old and brittle that they fall apart just handling them, so be as gentle as possible.

Most all fans that I know of require non-detergent oil, including my 1940 Emerson 77648. I use zout turbine oil as it's non detergent and works extremely well for smooth, quiet operation.

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Cleaning wicks

I have several old fans with wicks,if you notice the dried up grease looks like candle wax.Well its parafin based grease.On GEs or any take the wick out and get a q-tip and clean out the residue in the small cup.Get a small can, aluminum pot pie bowl fill it half way up with turpentine and soak these items and squeeze the wick it will turn dark green when all of the old grease is out of it.Then dry it with a paper towel.After everthing is clean fill it three-fouths of the way up with 3in1 oil.She will last for years.I do this to all of my fans and some are used daily for ever it seems.Thanks Bobby
 
Vortalex expert?

That might be me, I apologize if someone else knows more than I do, I don't want to step on anybody's toes. Take my advice with a grain of salt.

The Vortalex, or Vortie, was GE's TOL blade design. It was developed in the later 1930s and continued in production through the 1950s, with a gap in production for the War. The Vortalex blade is extremely quiet. On low, you can barely hear it. The only disadvantage is that it can take an expert to balance the Vortalex blade so it does not vibrate. This is ESSENTIAL for any fan.

Depending on year, your fan may have 1 or 2 oilers, each with a wick. The brass cup beneath the front bearing is an oiler. Sometimes, there is one beneath the rear bearing too, on the bottom of the oscillator transmission. If there is no oiler on the rear bearing, there is a round indentation on the underside of the transmission where an oiler would go, but there is no hole. My Prewar Vorties have the rear oiler, my Postewar Vortie does not. They are all 12" fans with 4 blades.

As for the wick, I order wick by the foot from Darryl Hudson of the Antique Fan Collectors' Association. I believe the GEs take 3/16" wick. Check with Daryl before placing your order. The old oil often turns to grease with age, heat, and time. You must remove ALL of the old greasy oil from the oil cup and spring, once you have removed the old wick, of course. I use mineral spirits (the odorless version is a blessing) do clean the spring and cup. I make sure the spring and cup are dry before reassembly.

To Reassemble the fan, you must first select an oil. You want an electric motor oil that contains neither paraffin, nor detergents. 3-in-1 in the black bottle has paraffin, but 3-in-1 in the BLUE bottle is just fine. It says it's for bigger motors than a fan motor, but it works just fine on vintage fans. FIRST, take a Q-tip and twirl it around in the hole where the wick goes and where the oil cup attaches to remove any loose dirt. SECOND, take a clean Q-tip, wet it with clean oil, and swirl it around in the same places. Keep doing this until you get the area clean.

To oil the fan, install the new wick in the spring by screwing the spring onto the wick. Take a picture of the old wick, measure it and make a drawing, or whatever you need to do to make sure you have just the right amount of wick poking out the top of the spring. Put the wick-containing spring into the oil cup and fill the cup with oil and then wait for the wick to suck it up. You can see the wick sucking up the oil because it will start to look wet and somewhat translucent. Once the whole wick is filled with oil, top off the oil in the cup. All you need to do now is line up the wick with the hole for it in the bearing and then screw the oil cup back onto the fan body.

For more information, check out the link I included to Hudson's Custom Machining, the business operated by Darryl Hudson from which I buy most of my fan parts. Look for the current parts and price list.

I hope all goes well,
Dave

http://www.hudsonscustommachining.com/
 
Thanks everyone for your great information. I have been told that regular 3-in-1 has detergent so if I can't find turbine oil I'll look for the blue stuff, which I do recall seeing somewhere.

In particular, thanks Dave for the step-by-step instructions and the links. I have saved them for reference.

I'll post results here when the time comes.

Ralph
 
OK, I found Norvey paraffin-based non-detergent turbine oil at my trusty ACE Hardware.

I currently have the wick assembly soaking in 91% isopropyl alcohol. The spring has become stuck to the wick by old dried up oil and I'm not inclined right now to try to pry it off. I expected to see the alcohol solution turn dark as soon as I dropped the parts into it but that didn't happen. It remained clear until I gave the wick and spring a gentle pass with a toothbrush, and then at best the solution turned cloudy. How long should I let these parts soak? I'm sure the oil has been caked on for decades.

Thanks up front for any further advice.

Ralph
 
My mistake.

Upon further reading, the 3-in-1 in the black bottle contains Naptha, which is bad. It doesn't say anything about paraffin. I am sorry about the mistake.

When I replace wicks, I use scissors to cut the old wick into pieces and pull them out of the spring (messy process) and I clean the scissors and spring with odorless mineral spirits. I then put in a new wick. Wick material is cheap and it acts as an oil filter, so it should be changed every few decades or so.

Check the link at the bottom of this post for specific information on fan lubrication.

Sorry for the mix-up,
Dave

http://www.fancollectors.org/info/Lubrication.htm
 
Thanks Dave. I read the turbine oil container and it sure seemed to be the right stuff, so I'm glad you confirmed it.

Looks like I should get myself some new wick material instead of thinking the current one will do a decent job.

Ralph
 
New wick.

Yeah, new wick would be a good idea after so many decades. Darryl Hudson carries it for $4.00 per foot. I believe the shortest length he sells is a foot, and that will be more than enough.

Vorties keep you cool quietly,
Dave
 
After 24 hours of soaking in the alcohol, the wick is moving fairly freely inside the spring. It's not brittle, I have gently scraped off some areas of the dark outer layer and it is looking more wick-like as the coating of caked-on oil breaks down.

I checked Darryl's site and didn't see wicks listed but will check again or contact him directly if I don't find it.

I'm very much looking forward to (not) hearing this fan run smoothly and properly.

Ralph
 
Found it. Thanks Dave. I'm thinking I have 1/8" diameter on this one. It's fairly skinny.

I'm going to cruise around those sites you linked to and see what I can find out about my fan.

Ralph
 
Not Alcohol

Alcohol dries much too fast.In the future turpintine,it takes no time to clean them.Ive done many,Volvo guy has seen many of the fans Ive restored.Regular 3in1 has worked great for years.But Ialso like the blue can 3in1 also.Its just amazing how long the bearings in these old fans last.Some fans I have are from the 1890s.The old pancake motor desk style. Be sure to check your wiring from the base to the motor also,Thanks Bobby
 
Thanks Bobby. I'll let the alcohol evaporate off of things and then give the turpentine a go. Meanwhile I'm going to order some wick material because I don't think the old one is going to perform like it's supposed to even though it's pliable and intact.

Ralph
 
That's my fan!

It's a postwar 12" Vortalex. Mine took 3/16 wool wick material (ask Darryl Hudson and he will confirm size). It has tan blades and a brass badge. Very pretty fan and a real workhorse. Mine also lacks the rear bearing oiler and instead relies on the greased oscillator transmission for lubrication in the back. Although less common, there were versions without an oscillator. Most do, however, oscillate.

One of my favorite fans,
Dave
 
Wow Dave, good to know you have the same model. So should I do anything with the worm gear lube for the oscillator? I usually just take the cover off and redistribute what's in there.

I have the fan back together and am letting it run a while. It already seems quieter even using the existing wick, which cleaned up quite well. I'll still order a foot of new material from Darryl though.

Also, the butterfly screw for the tilt adjustment no longer works. The threads are gone from the fork it screws into, which appears to be pot metal. Any suggestions? For now I am just tightening the actual screw on the opposite side of the fork to keep the motor and fan assembly upright.

Ralph
 
Oscillator:

GE used that oscillator from some time in the 1920s into the 1950s. It's a pretty good design, although Emerson's was superior. The GE oscillator can be fragile, especially the top, so care is necessary, although cracks can be patched with JB Weld.

I usually unscrew the 2 screws that hold down the lid and unscrew the brass oscillation control knob (the knob comes out with the cover) to open and inspect the oscillator. I dig out the old grease with a wooden sticks and toothpicks. Sometimes I'll use a solvent on a Q-tip to really clean out the inside. I re-pack the transmission with fresh grease once all the solvent is cleaned out and dry per instructions on the antique fan association's website and put the lid back on and run the fan. You want the gears to be covered in grease, but you want the bottom of the brass oscillation selection screw to be able to contact the piece below it (like a clutch) without slipping, so I never pack the transmission absolutely full of grease.

As for the screw, see if Darryl has any ideas. I guess you could contact a welding company to see about filling it, re-drilling the hole and tapping new threads. That would mar the paint, however, and be a pain in the rear end to do. Also, the Vorties are not yet considered to be especially old and rare, so they generally aren't that prized by collectors. I love mine, however, because they just perform so well, year after year, after year... (this is a trend with our appliances). I do know that a rare early GE oscillator (the Kidney Oscillator, Bobby {Whirlaway} has a beautiful example of one), had a pot metal transmission housing that was both easily damaged and almost impossible to repair. Someone started making new Kidney transmissions out of brass recently. They work, look beautiful, and cost an arm and a leg! Reproduced parts can always be created, but at a steep price.

Glad you are enjoying your fan,
Dave
 
Thanks Dave. I'll give the oscillation assembly a look. It's been a while since I've had it apart.

So far so good.

Thanks to all for the great help.

Ralph
 
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