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Apparently GE quietly slipped in Wi Fi capability to some of it's Profile dishwashers.  Isn't very functional at this point from this report, just wondering what they have in mind.  I know LG washers have WiFi capability, lets you download cycles and see what the washer is doing, but this is the first I've heard of a dishwasher.

 
Dishwasher app looks totally useless.  At least their washer app allowed downloading of more cycles like LG.  To me, that's the only worthiness of an app for an appliance.  Offer more flexibility.  I've gotten spoiled by the additional specialty cycles on my Whirlpool Duet and it's not even "connected", this model came with extra specialty cycles.  In fact, I've figured out that many of the cycles use more water and engage the supplemental heater more than the default 10 cycles. 
 
Bob, care to elaborate on the "extra" Duet cycles?  I've got 3 Duets, a couple are TOL but was unaware of any hidden cycles.

 

I pretty much have a connected house, lots of stuff all computer controlled and would not mind a few things being added as long as it adds to the functionality of the product.  There is some hint that is what GE has in mind, we have no idea if Haier  will follow through.
 
Matt, mine is a WFW97HEX.  It has on the dial what's stated as "Specialty Cycles".  That's where the various extra cycles are.  So they aren't hidden.  They are selectable through the color lcd display. 
 
I am a fan of 'connected' appliances. Having said that, we're still in the early stages of the game. Being able to do rudimentary tasks like check on the cycle time remaining, etc., is all well and good, but it's hardly stretching the possibilities. That will come; but manufacturers are going to have to deal with the very real issue of hacking.

Should someone hack in and shut my dishwasher off, that would be annoying; but if they shut my furnace off in the middle of January, I'll come home to tens of thousands of dollars worth of damage due to frozen pipes, flooding, etc.

Here's what I'm waiting for: Customizing cycles to fit one's needs. For instance, I'd love to change the wash times on a couple of cycles on the Maytag 8100. The Wrinkle Control cycle has a great cool-down feature before the first spin, but I'd like the wash time to be 15 minutes longer on the Heavy Soil setting to better handle stains on shirts, for instance. Wouldn't it be great if you could change parameters like that?

In ten years we'll look back on today's smart apps for appliances the way we look at, oh, say AppleWorks (thanks Lord Kenmore!).
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I have mixed feelings about connected appliances. I can see possible advantages say of being able to check cycle progress from the living room. At least for "normal" people. I, myself, don't mind going and checking the washing machine in person, and I usually do so mid-cycle. (Often I like to see what the rinse water is like, and whether to authorize a second deep rinse.) I can also see the possibilities of being able to one day do some customization of cycles. That would appeal to my Inner Control Freak. (Although here I find that I can do quite well with an old fashioned mechanical timer dial...) And this could allow for software patches to potentially add new capability or fix undiscovered problems.

Another feature AW.org types might like: a web cam inside dishwashers that can allow one to watch the dishwasher at work via the Internet.

But...there are problems. Hackers are one issue. Eugene's furnace example is one real problem. It could be simply addressed by making it impossible to set the thermostat below, say, about 40 via Internet connection. But whether all--or even any--such protections would be thought about, let alone implemented, is another question.

And, of course, this opens a new area of planned obsolescence. At some point, wi-fi standards will likely change. Will people buy a new dishwasher? Or set up a system where they have 2 wifi networks--the fast, modern one with a slow legacy one for the dishwasher? Also any software running on smart phones could pose a problem. At some point, an app of today won't run on smartphones/tablets/computers of tomorrow. And it's very likely given the throw away mentality of the appliance industry of today that new versions of control apps will only be issued so long.

>In ten years we'll look back on today's smart apps for appliances the way we look at, oh, say AppleWorks (thanks Lord Kenmore!).

You're welcome!

And yes, it's quite true that software can seem very primitive just a few years after release.
 
This is just silliness!!Due to the problems others have mentioned-would NOT buy this or any other "connected" appliance--lets just stick with knobs,dials,and switches.Those CAN'T be "hacked"
 
You are all imposing you have to connect that applaince. You don't. And you never will.

It's like bashing WP DW because of their overnight Soak&Clean cycle. Just because nobody uses this cycle, why does it make them less attractive?

I personaly can not see the use in it yet.
I mean, if one day I work 9-5, a connected oven might be usefull. Or starting your DW because you forgot to in the morning. Heck, even turning on my bathroom heater so I have a cosy bathroom when I come home.

Again, think of it: How often have you been hacked in your life? And would there be a reason to hack your applainces?
It happend before, peoples PC webcams have been hacked and leaked some verry personal video material. Do people use their webcam less often? No.
 
I think I'm truly in favor of making a basic, UN-CONNECTED appliance that WORKS!

Put the usual effort into something that does what it is supposed to, and something that you DON'T have to throw away and replace in a year...

-- Dave
 
Lord K: They'll implement such safety features to my wi-fi thermostat only after many people have been affected. That's generally the way things work, right?

Dave: An appliance's build quality and reliability are separate issues from connectivity. I'll take connectivity AND a quality-built appliance.
 
I can see it now - somewhere in China, they're monitoring wi-fi signals from appliances, ready to hit the 'self-destruct' sequence after X number of months...   LOL   I'll keep my '56 GE pull-out dishwasher off-line, methinks.  

 

 
 
I'm a big proponent of Smart Homes, got my home pretty well wired.  I can think of a number of ways having enabled appliances can be helpful.  Simply tying it in a Time of Day electrical rate can save you money.  In my area rates drop after 7pm, I'd like it if f I close and turn on the DW and it knows it's peak times, it just waits until it's off peak - of course I'd have the option to override it.

 

In a DW I'd like the WiFi tied into a error reporting system like my old GE 2800 had where it would indicate if the wash arm was blocked and such.  That and a few more sensors would create a very helpful addition and make the WiFi connectivity useful.
 
I mean, if one day I work 9-5, a connected oven might be usefull. Or starting your DW because you forgot to in the morning. Heck, even turning on my bathroom heater so I have a cosy bathroom when I come home.

^probably not a good idea with a heater in a confined space....
 

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