German Persil?

[volvoman]

So, I've got a strange question...

I know that the German Persil formula is probably different than what is sold here in the states.

With that said, is there any difference between the Green and Blue Persil from Germany? Do they have different fragrances? Do they clean differently from one another - or even from what is sold here?

 

[foraloysius]

German Persil

Green or blue? Are you talking about the Persil gels?

 

[tomturbomatic]

The white Persil Universal Powder in the big green 44 load box is labeled entirely in German. I bought it online years ago from a vacuum store. Launderess explained about the Universal Formula years ago.

 

[volvoman]

@foraloysius

My apologies - I meant the gel detergents. I believe there’s both an emerald green one (not the Green Power or Professional), and a dark blue one.

 

[foraloysius]

I found some green and some blue on the Walmart site.

 

[mrboilwash]

There should be no difference between the German green and blue Persil when it comes to scent and cleaning power.
I think the only difference is that the green "Universal" one contains an optical brightener and is suitable for both whites and colors, whereas the blue "Color" one contains a dye transfer inhibitor instead of optical brighteners and is recommended for washing colors.
The white "Sensitive" version in Germany is different. Different scent and much less cleaning power.

For what it`s worth dye transfer inhibitors do not protect garments from color loss, but they can prevent an item picking up the color of another item, at least to some extent.
The disadvantage of dye transfer inhibitors is that they can even accelerate the fading of some particular colors, which means depending on the type of dye you may even be better off using the Universal version in therms of fading but then you`d better wash only clothes of similar colors together.

The traditional Persil powders are inferior in terms of cleaning power compared to the Megaperls. Their advantage is that at least in current formulation they don`t have any insoluble zeolites.

Don`t know how the German Persil compares to the US versions, but personally wouldn`t bother to pay more.

 

[volvoman]

Actually…

…this is the Persil that I’m asking about.

 

[foraloysius]

As it says the one on the right is for colors, so not for whites. Others can tell you more about it but there are probably no optical brighteners in the color gel, although I'm not really sure.

 

[mrboilwash]

There`s also to consider that enzymes in particular in liquid formulations are not stable forever. I think if you buy "domestic" in the market you live in chances are higher to get a fresh product.

 

[jerrod_six]

Both of these also come in powder forms which I prefer because the gels can get sudsy in my water. The powder for whites will contain a lot of oxygen bleach which is great for stains and whitening.

 

[ozzie908]

In the UK Green Persil is biological and the Blue version is Non biological for sensitive skin ...... I bought non bio for whites as it had a higher bleach content and was superb for keeping things nice and white but they dumbed it down so have stopped buying either as it was expensive and not doing the job.

 

[liberatordeluxe]

Persil

@ozzie908 What do you use for keeping whites bright now you no longer use Persil? What did you notice about Persil not doing its job? I am currently using Splosh still and have done so since 2019 and pleased with the results.

 

[ozzie908]

@reply 10

Hello I am currently using a water softening tablet and a good scoop of Daz professional with the occasional scoop of oxi stain remover if not removed the first time !

Austin

 

[launderess]

From one who has them all.....

Both Persil gel formulas from Germany (Universal and Color variety) have a lighter scent both in bottle and on dried laundry than what is in those blue jugs of "American" Persil sold by Henkel in states. German stuff is more of a fresh clean smell, while American Persil quite bowls one over. Rather like something a cheap tart would wear.... If you don't rinse well, and or over dose your wash will have a powerful odor rather not unlike a cheap knocking shop.

Cleaning power wise remember all TOL and even some MOL laundry detergents are extensively tested to suit local market conditions where sold. Henkel tailored their Persil sold in USA for American market which includes everything from types of soils/stains encountered, water conditions, and fact washing machines here can be anything from 5kg front loaders to large top loading machines.

Use the "color" variety of German Persil for dress shirts, coloured and off white linens... Anything don't want subjected to OBAs and it works a treat.

Where both Universal Persil gel from Germany and what Henkel sells in American market fall short is that neither contain oxygen bleaching systems. As noted by many consumer testing groups (including those in Germany) better results are often obtained with powders that contain bleaching systems, and have found that to be true as well. Fortunately have an ample supply of various oxygen bleaches so that's me for you.

Dosage wise looking at bottles lined up in my stash Persil from Germany has smaller caps compared to that blue jug of American Henkel product. Thus one is more concentrated than the other.

With German Persil gel never go above 15ml or maybe 25ml for a full 5kg gram load of soiled wash. OTOH using recommended dosage of to "1" line in Persil cap will send all my European washing machines (Miele and both AEG Lavamat units) into suds lock. That and it takes many, many rinses to get the stuff out. Even then the scent is powerful and will remain long after drying.

Dosage with American Henkel is tricky, and you have to get things down and sorted, otherwise again as noted above there will be issues IMHO.

Cleaning wise Persil is Persil. Results from German Universal, Color/Kraft and American "Pro Dimensions" of clean are somewhat even across board. Shirt collars and cuffs are clean, whiff from BO is mostly gone from underarm areas, and in general most soils and marks that don't require bleaching are shifted.

Depending upon nature of soiling or mark traces or a bit more of things might remain, but again that IMHO speaks more to nature no liquid product contains bleaching agents.

Am going off liquids, so haven't bothered ordering anything from Europe in a while. Also am passing up American Persil which is frequently on special offer locally. Only thing will keep around is Tide Free and Gentle since it performs well, doesn't have scent, and now doesn't have OBAs either.