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>Find Persil and other powdered detergents from Europe create less froth, and are easier rinsing than Tide.

I can't comment, never having used European powdered detergent.

[Lord Kenmore gently sobs, as he ponders this gaping hole in his laundry life.]

But as I think of it, I do have a sense that this Tide might be improved vs. older versions of Tide when rinse time comes. But I can't say for sure--this is only a sense. It's been a long time since I last used powdered Tide, and it's very possible I've never used it with this particular washer.
 
I use Tide Powder for the vast majority of my laundry. Along with a scoop of Oxi Clean so I don’t bother buying the Tide with Bleach. I really want to switch to the unscented version but I can’t find it in anything but the smallest boxes which is a very impractical way to buy detergent for me. It’s also not available at all at Costco which is where I currently buy detergent. I always do two rinses and don’t use more than is necessary to cut down on the smell as much as possible.
 
> I really want to switch to the unscented version but I can’t find it in anything but the smallest boxes which is a very impractical way to buy detergent for me.

And I have the opposite problem: only the larger boxes available!

One thing I note, however, that might be an issue in your case: it appears that the the unscented version is only available, period, in a couple of sizes, and the biggest size is smaller than the biggest available boxes of the regular Tide.

At times, I've been stuck using a strongly scented detergent for a period (usually because I'm curious to try something praised here--like Wisk or Persil to cite two examples). I'd have preferred zero scent, but found that it was livable if I kept a supply of unscented detergent around for the times I absolutely wanted zero smell past clean laundry. Sheets, for example.
 
I forgot to mention a few benefits to Tide powdered detergent in the original post. Continuing the numbering from above:

4. The measuring cup is transparent. It's easier for me to be able to accurately measure than many liquid detergents. Some liquids I've used have driven me crazy because the lighting needs to be really good to see the lines inside the cap as I measure out a dose of detergent. A cynic might wonder if caps aren't designed to make measuring hard in hopes that people will use too much, and thus buy more detergent. (Although I do note that Tide now has at least some liquid detergents with transparent caps, so they presumably would have this benefit, as well.)

5. After measuring, one can very easily completely pour ALL the measured detergent into the washer.

6. It will also be easier using up the detergent. Liquids always have those troublesome drops that are hard to get out.
 
maybe a few helpful hints.....

for Mom, I used to divide the bottles in half, and mix 50/50 with water....was sort of an easy way to for her to just measure a full cap and pour it in....

for HE machines, using full strength, I found a shot glass the perfect measure per load, one for medium size loads, two for large heavily soiled loads, I would leave it in the dispenser to clean itself each time...

doing a 50/50 mix on softeners was also the perfect dose, and eliminating the build up inside the dispenser chamber...

some detergents allow you to pull out that spout to get the last drops, others like Tide, you have to add water and rinse out the last of it...
 
"Was gifted a small vend size of the "new" Tide powder, and like others cannot stand the fruity/bubble gum fragrance." Agreed!! Am finding that a lot of this smell in the in-house brands as well. Have been using HEB's Bravo brand and it smells like bubble gum, but it's formulated for Texas hard water. The scent is not that far removed from TWB powder, but at least it rinses out more so than Tide. What is it with these scents anyway?!?!? Also found that the the scent of Wind Fresh from Sam's Club lingers and lingers in the plastic bucket, long after it was used up and used for cleaning windows and other items around the house. Persil is the worst, nearly drove me out of the house. Bought a bottle of Suavitel fabric softner sometime ago and when they advertised the scent lasted 30 days, they weren't kidding! Will probably switch back to buying All Free & Clear, just can't stand some of the scents anymore. I miss the detergents of my youth!!!

Barry
 
We all miss the scents of our youth and the generation that prefers fruity bubble gum today will soon be yearning for the good old days too because those trends won`t stay forever.

Whether we like it or not those of us who were young in the 60`s, 70`s or 80`s are certainly not the preferred target group when detergent industry and others makes their market research. Additionally those new trends are pushed by constant new scientific knowledge about scent ingredients safety.

An important secret in life (amongst a trillion of others) is not to fail to adapt to a constantly changing world. Easier said than done, I know that myself.
 
Now can anyone please explain why the "smartlable" ingredients list of Tide Original powder is exactly on par with Tide with Bleach powder ?
Same product in different boxes sold for different prices ?
At least Tide Ultra Oxi seems to be a different formular.
 
Tide with Bleach

Is P&G's TOL powdered detergent and market leader, indeed it has been since introduction many years ago.

TWB has P&G's patented oxygen (activated)bleaching system, something they continuously revise and improve. Subsequently P&G also renews the patents which has prevented any other American dishwasher or laundry detergent maker from introducing an activated bleaching system based upon NBOS. Persil and others use TAED (if they bother all) for activated bleaching systems.

Since it isn't possible to have liquid detergents with oxygen bleach as market sales of powders have dwindled, P&G has upped their game for their liquid detergents. That and have introduced various stain "booster" additives which basically are activated oxygen bleaching system based powders.

Also as more and more Americans are wearing colors and darks, even a detergent with oxygen bleaching systems becomes either suspect or an outright no go.

Unlike in Europe P&G doesn't have a "colors" version of Tide with Bleach. Best you can do is get Tide powders like "free and gentle" which IIRC don't contain oxygen bleach (don't quote me on this, haven't looked in years). But they do contain OBAs which not everyone wants for their darks/colors wash.
 
>Now can anyone please explain why the "smartlable" ingredients list of Tide Original powder is exactly on par with Tide with Bleach powder ?

I've speculated that the difference might be in the amounts of individual ingredients. There might be more bleach-related ingredients in TWB than regular Tide.
 
>Unlike in Europe P&G doesn't have a "colors" version of Tide with Bleach.

I can't say this for sure...but I have to think that any sort of "colors" detergent version would be, at best, a niche product in the US. I think most people want just one detergent sitting on the shelf. Indeed, most people would be puzzled by the idea of having more than one detergent.

Indeed, my mother did have (at least part of the time) 2 detergents: regular detergent, and Woolite (for hand washing delicates). I noticed that Woolite vanished from the store where I usually get detergent. I'm assuming the store has sales that aren't good enough, and they figure there can be a better use for that space on the shelf. Get rid of a few small items like that, and you have room for the latest version of Tide, after all!
 
Lordkenmore you are on the same page as I am.
I`ve speculated the same as you, but if there are differences in individual amounts then they are probably only marginal because the chemicals are usually listed in an order from the largest amount on top of the list to the smallest amount on the bottom.
Of course the scent could differ as well, couldn`t tell because I never had a chance to try the "Bleach" version.
Or maybe they have just mixed up the Smartlables on Tide`s website.
 
you could always check laundromats for sample boxes of different detergents to try....

I got to try a bunch of different ones without buying a whole box...roughly .75 to 1.00 for a box...

also, I didn't find TWB powder the same as Tide with Bleach Alternative liquid.....prefer the powder...
 
I'm doing a load of laundry tonight using some new detergent. (Back to liquid, thanks to a sale.) But...I thought it might be interesting to let the clothes agitate a bit in warm water with no detergent, first. Just to see if there was much detergent residue left from the powdered Tide that didn't get dislodged by the regular cold water rinse when last washed. It seems to me that sometimes a lot of suds will turn up in such a situation. This time, however, the water looked pretty decent, although not perfect. Perhaps I should use the new detergent exclusively for the stuff in this load for a couple of weeks, and then do a similar test.
 
Tide

I've tried the new tide,,, smell does not impress me..... Tide with bleach smells somewhat like the Oxydol from the 80's did. I tried the new Oxydol with Biz.. that smelled great.... not over powering, left my cloths with a light clean scent... I'd add some stpp to it, it would clean the oil and grease out of my work jeans great..... it was sold to I think CR brands, and recently sold to another company. I was buying it 4 boxes at a time on Amazon.... pretty reasonable price.... unable to find it anymore... there is someone on E-bay selling 4 boxes for 175 dollars..... when I saw that I said to myself " I can get an original box of Oxydol MUCH cheaper than that " I hope the new company starts selling it again....
 
The local Target had Tide Ultra Oxy on sale for $7 something for the 58 load box. I picked it up, along with a bottle of Tide Color whatever and a trial bottle of Method fresh breeze or something. The Tide didn't have an obnoxious smell. I just need to go through the rest of the Cheer. There's a lot left.

I'm finding myself stuck in a bit of a pickle. If I don't use enough detergent clothes don't seem to get clean. But I use enough things foam up in the wash basket like crazy. I have no idea how much to actually use.
 

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