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Going Green has gone overboard for many idiots....bottled water?...I coud refill all the bottles with water from my garden hose and no one would know the difference.....

Going green should not cost me more, what am I saving, money or the whole planet?...I agree we should all do our part and it can add up, but stick to simple basics, that almost everyone can do or use with ease.....

bleach, borax, ammonia, vinegar, etc......all basic great cleaners....I lke to save money by buying ZEP cleaning prducts from Lowes and Home Depot....most cost about $6.00 to $10.00 a gallon, most are concentrates, 1 ounce of window cleaner to a 32 ounce empty windex bottle mix with water, cost wise thats 128 bottles of windex for around $9.00, for example....

Common sense is how you go green....makes more sense to use a wringer washer and hang clothes out on a line....that's my idea of HE...but just the same, all gray water from my house feeds the flower beds and waters the lawn on one side of the house...guess which side is more plush and greener?...night and day difference...who needs ChemLawn?.....bleach is naturally made from salt water, and breaks back down after use to its original form.....don't know how exactly but it works!...is it a waste to re-use wash water and the chemicals? or re-purposing recycled products...at least I don't have to water my lawn and put down chemicals....money in my pocket!

try a test...I have done this...take a 12 inch square piece of lawn...spray the grass with pure bleach (not diluted), in a day or so it will turn yellow, some will die off, and in a week or so the grass will come back plush, thick, dark green blades of grass, have some fun with it and do a checkerboard for the kids to play with, 2 tone green....I discoverd this when I thought bleach would kill the weeds and grass in the driveway and stone walkway...WRONG...it grew back worse than before!
 
LOL My father's house was in a summer community on the far east end of Long Island. There were no sewer systems. Spetic tanks olny. EVERYONE (illegally) dumps their washer's output onto the lawn. Bleach, hot water and all. As you said Yogi, the grass will be just fine..........

Apparently bleach and softner is not good for septic tank
Having a huge party where everyoen sh--- in your toilet, however is said to be a good thing!
 
More common than you would think....and probably done more than one thinks, but I have relatives in Western Pennsylvania, everthing but the toilet runs down the mountain from hoses and pipes, and this is from an area that just recently got an actual toilet and hot water heaters inside the homes,things we take for granted....and like Toggles, I have an Aunt in Long Island, a place I love to visit, years ago while visiting noticed she had to dump her dishwater by bucket into her garden because of a failed septic system under a beautiful floral garden she did not want dug up, with a day of planning and install, we piped her sink and washer and tub into the garden, hidden out of site, and within the first few weeks her garden exploded in enormous flowers and shrubbery, for under $100.00.....as long as its not raw sewage, I don't see the damage, rather more earth friendly....we even put in rainbarrels under the downspouts for her to use for hanging pots and window boxes, and filling birdbaths....think smarter, not harder!....water and chemicals reused....thats my kind of GREEN!
 
Yogi,

Are your relations in Pennsylvania in Greene or Fayette county? I know from having been in different parts of those counties that there are still plenty of people with out houses.We are in Washington county, it is more developed, but until very recently I knew people here who also had outhouses and all the wash water drained into the yard or a nearby creek.Also if you are ever out this way visiting let me know so we can get together for a visit.

I do save my wash water in 5 gallon buckets as well as I have a 55 gallon drum under the downspout closest to my garden. I do not do it to be green, but because I dont want to strain the well too much in summer to water my tomatoes and string beans. The large amount of people in this area still have wells or spring water, so suds saver automatics and wringer washers are still very common here to help save the wel water.

Going green is nearly non-existent here. Recycling does not happen, nobody uses green products, and there are hardly if any hybrids, it is mostly SUV's, large trucks, and big cars. Burning your garbage is still a common practice here as well, at least that saves a garbage bill as well as cuts down on what goes to the landfill
 
Xraytech, you must have read my mind!

I was thinking Fayette county too.

You are right about going green in this part of PA. You have to get to downtown Pittsburgh to see a Prius. There is recycling in our area east of Pittsburgh and we are not allowed to burn. But our community was in trouble with the EPA over not treating sewage and now our sewage and water bills are really high.
 
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