My little Smart car gets around 47 MPG, but then again I don't think many Americans would want to drive a thing like that LOL.
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My '65 Rambler american goes like a jeep in snow, and gets 21 city 30 highway (with a Nash flathead six that came out in 1941). It will also push most modern economy cars sideways.
Ken D.
Remember, it causes more pollution to manufacture one new car, than a typical 1960s car will produce in 300,000 miles.
Ken D.
Remember, it causes more pollution to manufacture one new car, than a typical 1960s car will produce in 300,000 miles.
programcomputer
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Wow ...stumbled (once again) onto a sensitive topic I see...
Okay everyone,
I'm sorry that I have offended some with my remarks. Apparently I have been finding myself on this site differing with may who think otherwise of MY statements. Im just stating my opinion as you state yours.
Im going to do a bit of explaining here:
1.I agree with Ken about the OLDER cars being better, as we all pretty much agree that OLDER washers are better. Once upon a time we American's all built quality things, that did a puroseful job, and lasted until we were long gone. BTW Ken good car the Rambler...That Nash 6 was the bomb considering that at one point Nash waa able to advertise the Statesman 400 I believe as getting 400 miles to a tankful of gas.
2. I was speaking Austin of course to two of the most fuel thirsty vehicles that FoMoCo makes right now. My mom's Navigator gets somewhere between 12 and 18 MPG, and has a built in indicator to tell you just what is going on in the MPG dept.It also has to haul around a 2500 lb body and had a huge V-8 and an automatic transimission of the 4 speed variety. She cannot keep HER foot out of it, therfore getting the not so hot MPT (miles per tank)figure of about 320 miles.
My stepfathers F350 is a quadcab three quarterton dually with a fifthwheel hitch. It uses Fords LARGEST V-8 made in 1999 when he bought it. Four wheel drive, a four speed automatic transmission and a toolbox that goes along the back window. His get anywahers between 9-15 mpg.
Your F150 prob weighs about 2500 lbs has probably a 300 flat six or a 302 V-8, the five speed transmission does help you out to give you the better figures.I agree that not all large vehicles ar BAD but some are..read on.
I however get about roughly 23-24 mpg on the interstate with the cruise set at 75 and at VERY worse gets about 16 mpg in my Continental. It handles very well for not being a four wheel drive vehicle and Im content with it. I was simpy stating that from what I have OWNED, and what I have curently, I feel that I have made progress and some vehicles simply have not.
My partner Martin's Olds gets "slightly" less mpg than my Conti, but his has a supercharger bolted to a 3800 II series v-6 and he like my mother always has to have his foot way up in it. His MPG figures are usually anywhere from 15-20.
I know jack about foreign cars but I do know that my brothers Honda Accord gets like 28 on the freeway and like 18-19 in town. It serves him and his wife well for their kids and she drives a Chrysler Town And Country from about 1995 with all the wood trim and garishness and she even gets about 22mpg on the hwy's this has a V-6 and an automatic four speed gearbox.
My oldest sister has a Toyota Prius that gets like anywhere from 28-60 mpg depending on how you drive. It handles well and suits her powerchick mentality just fine. Her husband also has one and they love them. This is the new hybrid cars that I also know jack about but I have driven it and wasn't terribly impressed. Except for the fuel economy.
My youngest sister has a 1991 Mercury Colony Park Station Wagon 9 pass. She gets what I used to in my Towncars..anywahere from 9-18 mpg depending on conditions driving habits ( which in Mich SOME people are deplorable at as I have stated elsewhere) and her husband has...a truck just like Austins and has reported to me that he gets about what he has stated: Of 20 mpg on the fwy. But Jerry never goes over 65 BTW.
My dad however...he drives a 1995 Cadillac Fleetwood and also has a Chevrolet Caprice Classic from the same year. Both are about the same in MPG as my Continental. But when it's bad weather he has a much harder time starting out then as I do.
It's all about what WE like. That's what makes us individuals.
I just stated that I have driven alot of vehicles in my time...more than some peole do in the entire lives,and there are just ones that I wouldn't have..and ones that I would...such as my Continental. It's puropseful, doesn't rape me at the pump and it handles beautifully. Therefore I am... happy.
Best Regards
Chad
Okay everyone,
I'm sorry that I have offended some with my remarks. Apparently I have been finding myself on this site differing with may who think otherwise of MY statements. Im just stating my opinion as you state yours.
Im going to do a bit of explaining here:
1.I agree with Ken about the OLDER cars being better, as we all pretty much agree that OLDER washers are better. Once upon a time we American's all built quality things, that did a puroseful job, and lasted until we were long gone. BTW Ken good car the Rambler...That Nash 6 was the bomb considering that at one point Nash waa able to advertise the Statesman 400 I believe as getting 400 miles to a tankful of gas.
2. I was speaking Austin of course to two of the most fuel thirsty vehicles that FoMoCo makes right now. My mom's Navigator gets somewhere between 12 and 18 MPG, and has a built in indicator to tell you just what is going on in the MPG dept.It also has to haul around a 2500 lb body and had a huge V-8 and an automatic transimission of the 4 speed variety. She cannot keep HER foot out of it, therfore getting the not so hot MPT (miles per tank)figure of about 320 miles.
My stepfathers F350 is a quadcab three quarterton dually with a fifthwheel hitch. It uses Fords LARGEST V-8 made in 1999 when he bought it. Four wheel drive, a four speed automatic transmission and a toolbox that goes along the back window. His get anywahers between 9-15 mpg.
Your F150 prob weighs about 2500 lbs has probably a 300 flat six or a 302 V-8, the five speed transmission does help you out to give you the better figures.I agree that not all large vehicles ar BAD but some are..read on.
I however get about roughly 23-24 mpg on the interstate with the cruise set at 75 and at VERY worse gets about 16 mpg in my Continental. It handles very well for not being a four wheel drive vehicle and Im content with it. I was simpy stating that from what I have OWNED, and what I have curently, I feel that I have made progress and some vehicles simply have not.
My partner Martin's Olds gets "slightly" less mpg than my Conti, but his has a supercharger bolted to a 3800 II series v-6 and he like my mother always has to have his foot way up in it. His MPG figures are usually anywhere from 15-20.
I know jack about foreign cars but I do know that my brothers Honda Accord gets like 28 on the freeway and like 18-19 in town. It serves him and his wife well for their kids and she drives a Chrysler Town And Country from about 1995 with all the wood trim and garishness and she even gets about 22mpg on the hwy's this has a V-6 and an automatic four speed gearbox.
My oldest sister has a Toyota Prius that gets like anywhere from 28-60 mpg depending on how you drive. It handles well and suits her powerchick mentality just fine. Her husband also has one and they love them. This is the new hybrid cars that I also know jack about but I have driven it and wasn't terribly impressed. Except for the fuel economy.
My youngest sister has a 1991 Mercury Colony Park Station Wagon 9 pass. She gets what I used to in my Towncars..anywahere from 9-18 mpg depending on conditions driving habits ( which in Mich SOME people are deplorable at as I have stated elsewhere) and her husband has...a truck just like Austins and has reported to me that he gets about what he has stated: Of 20 mpg on the fwy. But Jerry never goes over 65 BTW.
My dad however...he drives a 1995 Cadillac Fleetwood and also has a Chevrolet Caprice Classic from the same year. Both are about the same in MPG as my Continental. But when it's bad weather he has a much harder time starting out then as I do.
It's all about what WE like. That's what makes us individuals.
I just stated that I have driven alot of vehicles in my time...more than some peole do in the entire lives,and there are just ones that I wouldn't have..and ones that I would...such as my Continental. It's puropseful, doesn't rape me at the pump and it handles beautifully. Therefore I am... happy.
Best Regards
Chad
We all drive trucks here except mom who has a 99 Buick Park Ave. I had to drive her to her hair appt. about 7 mi. on this ice and it never slipped once, but I also drive very careful as no one I know wants their Insurance premium going up. The key I think is going slow no matter what you drive. Drive safley!
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Car talk
I've recently acquired a 1988 T-Bird with the 3/8 liter V6 and 4 speed Overdrive automatic (but NO lockup, would you believe, onthe Turbo 4 model had lockup that year). It gets around 17 city/25 highway, which is the best mileage I've EVER gotten in a car except for my 1987 Escort (33 highway), but then, it was an Escort with all the shortcomings thereof (noisy, lousy ride, not much power, boring) and it REFUSED to run on regular gas, would ping like crazy unless I used at least the middle grade). In L.A. stick shifts are out of the question, at least for me. Though I can drive a stick, the traffic makes it VERY irritating after ten minutes for me, so I really hate them. Plus, I'm a very logical person, and a stickshift in a newer car makes as much sense to me as building a new kitchen and then putting in a wood stove to cook on or replacing your refrigerator with an icebox. As much as I like old things, there's a point where it doesn't make sense and becomes a pain in the butt. Manual transmissons fall right into that category. I imagine could deal with it if I lied out in Montana somewhere.
I've recently acquired a 1988 T-Bird with the 3/8 liter V6 and 4 speed Overdrive automatic (but NO lockup, would you believe, onthe Turbo 4 model had lockup that year). It gets around 17 city/25 highway, which is the best mileage I've EVER gotten in a car except for my 1987 Escort (33 highway), but then, it was an Escort with all the shortcomings thereof (noisy, lousy ride, not much power, boring) and it REFUSED to run on regular gas, would ping like crazy unless I used at least the middle grade). In L.A. stick shifts are out of the question, at least for me. Though I can drive a stick, the traffic makes it VERY irritating after ten minutes for me, so I really hate them. Plus, I'm a very logical person, and a stickshift in a newer car makes as much sense to me as building a new kitchen and then putting in a wood stove to cook on or replacing your refrigerator with an icebox. As much as I like old things, there's a point where it doesn't make sense and becomes a pain in the butt. Manual transmissons fall right into that category. I imagine could deal with it if I lied out in Montana somewhere.
Hey Louis:
Some company whose name escapes me is actually thinking of importing Smart to America, and in a country of 300 million souls, someone will buy one.
How do you fit in that thing? As I recall, youre a bit on the tall side, my friend.
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL!!! I for one am glad to see '04 go - it was one *crapburger* of a year.
Some company whose name escapes me is actually thinking of importing Smart to America, and in a country of 300 million souls, someone will buy one.
How do you fit in that thing? As I recall, youre a bit on the tall side, my friend.
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL!!! I for one am glad to see '04 go - it was one *crapburger* of a year.
Well, a friend of mine that's 6'4" and 280 lbs. fits easily into his entry level Hyundai.
programcomputer
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Prius's aren't any better....
Hi Again,
I drove my sis's Prius about 40 miles over Thanksgiving, and I had to adjust the seat all the way back and tilt the seatback some to fit in there. Im weighing in recently at about 270 and am 6'2. The comfort is virtually nil,, and feels like im driving an oversized golfcart with a old fashioned wood wagon suspension.
I guess the thing that creeped me out the most is how when you need additional power the small gas motor screams like Janet Leigh in Psycho, and when you come to a stop in the city the call falls dead silent. Thankfully she was with me so she could quickly explain that I need NOT restart the vehicle...LOL because I was reaching for the ignition key.
Another thing was the joystick control that operates the CVT style tranny. Looking very much like a 1955 Chrysler product or a few Honda models, this "control wand" pops out of the dash and looks like it shold be on a control for the original Atari, not the main control in a vehicle. And the dash is weird too. Instead of being where we normally would see it, it was smack in the middle of the dash deep set near the window. It does however have a cool information center where one would normally find the radio, and it tells you exactly what it's doing.
I apologize to all of you for overreacting, or overstating. I have a habit of having to prove myself and it's all from conditioning. No worries tho....
On that note:
Happy New Year Everyone, and Best Wishes for 2005
Chad
Hi Again,
I drove my sis's Prius about 40 miles over Thanksgiving, and I had to adjust the seat all the way back and tilt the seatback some to fit in there. Im weighing in recently at about 270 and am 6'2. The comfort is virtually nil,, and feels like im driving an oversized golfcart with a old fashioned wood wagon suspension.
I guess the thing that creeped me out the most is how when you need additional power the small gas motor screams like Janet Leigh in Psycho, and when you come to a stop in the city the call falls dead silent. Thankfully she was with me so she could quickly explain that I need NOT restart the vehicle...LOL because I was reaching for the ignition key.
Another thing was the joystick control that operates the CVT style tranny. Looking very much like a 1955 Chrysler product or a few Honda models, this "control wand" pops out of the dash and looks like it shold be on a control for the original Atari, not the main control in a vehicle. And the dash is weird too. Instead of being where we normally would see it, it was smack in the middle of the dash deep set near the window. It does however have a cool information center where one would normally find the radio, and it tells you exactly what it's doing.
I apologize to all of you for overreacting, or overstating. I have a habit of having to prove myself and it's all from conditioning. No worries tho....
On that note:
Happy New Year Everyone, and Best Wishes for 2005
Chad
Chris,
I'm 6'1 so not that tall. The space for the driver is actually quite big for such a car. The problem is on the passenger's side. That chair is a bit higher due to the fact that the battery is under the floor on that side. I wonder if Jetcone will fit into that thing when he comes over LOL. Perhaps with a shoe-horn...
I'm 6'1 so not that tall. The space for the driver is actually quite big for such a car. The problem is on the passenger's side. That chair is a bit higher due to the fact that the battery is under the floor on that side. I wonder if Jetcone will fit into that thing when he comes over LOL. Perhaps with a shoe-horn...
Louis, spiffy-looking ride! It must take just minutes to give it a wash!
Guys, I think we're all forgetting, it's not miles per gallon, it's smiles per gallon!
Hi Louis,I love that car!Looks like it would be great around town. Is this a hybrid type? Heres a pic of a 1979 camaro I ordered new without A/C and with 4speed trans.after a while I hotrodded it a bit, but it would still get 18 to 20mpg hwy.The corner pic is a 1969 camaro I restored from the ground up and was my last!Well those were my crazy younger days!
DADoES,
Yes, my car is easy to wash, but unfortunately I have to pay the full price at the carwash LOL.
drmitch,
No, my car is not a hybrid, no space for two systems in that thing. This car was designed by Mercedes and Swatch, but Mercedes took over the Swatch shares. The motor is a 3 cylinder 0.6 litres engine with turbo and produces 55 HP. I use it outside town as well, it's my only car. But then again this bijou country is nothing but one big city with a few big parks I guess! BTW, I love that 1969 Camaro.
cadman,
I think overhere we make smilometres per litre!
Yes, my car is easy to wash, but unfortunately I have to pay the full price at the carwash LOL.
drmitch,
No, my car is not a hybrid, no space for two systems in that thing. This car was designed by Mercedes and Swatch, but Mercedes took over the Swatch shares. The motor is a 3 cylinder 0.6 litres engine with turbo and produces 55 HP. I use it outside town as well, it's my only car. But then again this bijou country is nothing but one big city with a few big parks I guess! BTW, I love that 1969 Camaro.
cadman,
I think overhere we make smilometres per litre!
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Wow Louis, interesting little car!! Must turn a lot of heads! And I agree with Don; 55 HP must be fast!
Is this a front, rear, or mid-engine model?
Is this a front, rear, or mid-engine model?
Ah, I wanted to say that, the engine is in the back, under the small trunk. It doesn't turn heads as often anymore as it did because you see them a lot and in many versions. It's not all positive, the car is not very comfortable because the suspension is very hard. Also the topspeed is limited by the electronics, it doesn't go faster than 85 miles, due to fear it will tumble over at higher speeds.
There is also a convertible version. After this model (now called Fortwo) more models were introduced, a sportscar called Roadster and a small family car called Forfour. Smart is going to appear in 2006 in the US and the rumours are they are going to sell an SUV in the US.
Here's the link to the UK website where all the information is about the current models
There is also a convertible version. After this model (now called Fortwo) more models were introduced, a sportscar called Roadster and a small family car called Forfour. Smart is going to appear in 2006 in the US and the rumours are they are going to sell an SUV in the US.
Here's the link to the UK website where all the information is about the current models
Kewl, Louis. The Smart will be quite a novelty when it finally arrives over here.
Bob: Hyundai's *are* surprisingly easy to sit in. My 6'2 frame used to fit well in my buddy's '86.
I kinda liked my girlfriend's Prius first and only time I drove it, but I agree that nothing Consumer Reports warned me about prepared me for how eerily silent the car is when the petro burner is off.
Hey drmitch: you still got the '79 Camaro? How many offers do you get from folk wanting to buy it off ya?
Bob: Hyundai's *are* surprisingly easy to sit in. My 6'2 frame used to fit well in my buddy's '86.
I kinda liked my girlfriend's Prius first and only time I drove it, but I agree that nothing Consumer Reports warned me about prepared me for how eerily silent the car is when the petro burner is off.
Hey drmitch: you still got the '79 Camaro? How many offers do you get from folk wanting to buy it off ya?
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Odd cars
Oh, how I wish I had the $ to restore my '76 AMC Pacer that's in storage. It doesn't look so weird now!
Oh, how I wish I had the $ to restore my '76 AMC Pacer that's in storage. It doesn't look so weird now!
