Health care public option -- NOW is the time

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Depending on which poll you choose to believe, somewhere between 68% and 88% of us want a public option for health care.

For once the U.S. House did its job, and the only remaining hurdle is the Senate. Now is the time to contact your elected officials in Washington D.C. and let your voice be heard. This is especially important if you live in Nebraska, Oregon, Louisiana, Connecticut or Maine.

Do it today, and spread the word!

 
Same way we paid Bush's $1.5 trillion extortion to his and Cheney's banking buddies.

Same way we paid $1.5 trillion to chase down imaginary weapons in Iraq.

Etc.
 
I think this is a horrible idea, it will cost too much money, not to mention they will drastically reduce reimbursement to hospitals causing some to fail, others to downsize and that all causing many more out of work people who wont be able to find a job.
Plus if you needed any medical exams you would probably have to wait for approval from whoever will be running this to tell you if they think you need it or not.
 
The U.S. Government is NOT efficient. It hasn't been, and probably never will be. So, why the hell would you want to trust your health care to them? There has to be a better solution to the problem.
 
Given the choice of inefficient or immoral, I'll take that first option.

Apparently, so would somewhere between 68% and 88% of the country.
 
Got to agree. I have no health insurance, it's been over 2 years since I quit. My single person premium with no meds was raised to over $600/mo. When I first signed up it as $87. I shopped around but was refused due to "preexisting". I have pre Barret's esophagus.

So, what am I supposed to do? A low cost public option is about the only thing that could help me. I don't care if it's crappy. Crappy is better than none.
 
Its cheaper to pay Death benifits than Medical claims.

So several of the ins.co. says. And several are dropping policys for any reason the day before surgerys even though they approved it first. It is happening on about 10 % of the patients everyday here in this area. Policys are being cancelled due to unanswered questions when forms were filled out . (may have been years ago) and some for payments being 1 day late 4 or 6 years ago. 1 lady had hers cancelled due to the fact she did not put down Miss or Mrs. Think this is bad just wait..
 
yes my friend was all oiled up for

back surgery when the nurse came in to cancel the whole shebang for the insurance company!

I'll take the Canadian system anyday! over the WallStreet Bean counters who have infiltrated the news media and insurance companies! I certainly don't want my medical decisions made for PROFIT!

If its good enough for Congressional Members its good enough for me.
NATIONALIZE!

Jon CHarles
 
I know I'm not a US citizen/resident and its none of my

The behaviour of the private insurers in the US is scandalous and amoral. The best solution for the US is to have a public health insurance option competing with the private insurers and forcing them to behave properly and offer competitive rates. I won't bore you further about how the Australian system has gone some way to achieving this. I also believe that the Dutch have achieved this by a slightly different route. Perhaps some Dutch members can fill us in.
 
A public health care system could be a great thing...I went for a year without any health insurance and it is scary, but I'd rather have something carefully considered and well planned that took a little bit longer, than follow an arbitrarily set deadline. Crappy health care might be better than no health care, but good health care is better still. It seems that this is too expensive to "settle" for something mediocre.

Wes
 
I'd rather have something carefully considered and well

I agree with this. If the country is to consider a national health care plan, Congress needs to come up with a carefully researched, thought out, and well written bill. They need to look at the systems used in other countries, not just Canada or Britain. Australia has a system that seems to work. I talk with Australians on another forum and most seem to like it.

Any system is going to have problems, but lets not rush to pass a half-assed health care bill just to beat the August recess.
 
We have

national health already, let's just expand them....Medicaid and Medicare.

Medicaid is for the poor, Medicare is for the elderly.

Yes, they do have problems and shortcomings, but they do work pretty well. I know several people on Medicaid, and they get decent care in a timely manner.

It is past time that the United States dealt with health care FINANCE reform.

Again, we do not need health care reform, we need health care FINANCE reform.

Lawrence/Maytagbear
 
The claim that health care reform has not been adequately researched is one of many bits of pure disinformation being put out by opponents of reform.

The fact is, this issue has been researched to death. This time around (not taking into account the research done the last time around, in 1993-4), five different congressional committees (3 in the House and 2 in the Senate) heard many hundreds of hours of testimony from industry and other experts.

The poll numbers speak for themselves.
 
Something to Consider:

This link is to a Manchester Guardian (U.K.) story about a Cigna exec who finally got a gutful of what's going on, and who is trying to make a difference. I have personally seen one of the clinics mentioned in this story; anyone who thinks that public health care is reasonably available needs to read this.

What we have going on in this country - a health care system of, by and for the corporations - is more than a crime, it's a sin, and it cannot end soon enough.

"Potter, who had worked at Cigna for 15 years, decided to check it out. What he saw appalled him. Hundreds of desperate people, most without any medical insurance, descended on the clinic from out of the hills. People queued in long lines to have the most basic medical procedures carried out free of charge. Some had driven more than 200 miles from Georgia. Many were treated in the open air."

www.guardian.co.uk

Whistleblower tells of America's hidden nightmare for its sick poor

When an insurance firm boss saw a field hospital for the poor in Virginia, he knew he had to speak out
www.guardian.co.uk www.guardian.co.uk
 
A while back I watched this Frontline doco, which many of yo

Check out the part on Taiwan in particular. What is being shown here is very much on the money. America is actually in an advantageous position. All it has to do is a bit of research, because this wheel has already been invented. Thus, the US Administration isn't faced with the difficulty of having to start this process from scratch. Whilst there are problems with all of the systems in place - some major, others minor - they are constantly evolving to meet the challenges that they face. Not one of the countries that have adopted universal health care would ever consider reverting back to a completely market based, private health care system - EVER! Now I wonder why that could be, hmmmmm?

Universal health care is a bit like public education. All wealthy, modern nations around the world have discovered that the benefits far outweigh the negatives. It is another evolutionary step in respect of our journey to becoming civilized.

In my view a truly civilized society is primarily defined by what its citizens have in their heads and how well they treat and care for each other. How such a society fosters and encourages humane values, access to resources and opportunities is far more important in defining a sophisticated civilization in many more ways than wealth, technology and material objects, regardless of how advanced they may be; or the unhealthy preoccupation with and adoration of the minority of obscenely wealthy individuals.

I think it would interesting to get some feedback from those who chose to watch the program.

Please click on the link below.

rapunzel

Sick Around The World | FRONTLINE | PBS

Can the U.S. learn anything from the rest of the world about how to run a health care system?
www.pbs.org
 
" I'd rather have something carefully considered an

Nice in theory but it will not happen. The problem is that the longer it drags on the more the special interests will get control. The R's that would basically prefer I die than get health care coverage will raise more and more talking points to get the nitwits to believe them.

Because I was lucky enough to have a good Dr. that caught a potentially deadly problem and treat me for it I am now basically uninsurable. Oh there is BCBS that is the state mandated insurer of last resort, who want to have their charter changed from non-profit to for profit, but they want upwards of $1500/mo. Not going to happen.

We the People need a lobbiest to get our points across and to care for our interests. That is supposed to be Congress, but they are bought and paid for to the last one of them by special interests.

There are times I truly hate this country and many of the people in it. This is one of them. I just read that the Senate has agreed to kill the public option. Thank you big business.
 

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