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HI eveyone, Now that advent is over, it is time to get started on music for Lent and Easter. I am going to learn how to play Christ Lag in Todesbanden(In Death's strong grasp the savior lay) by Bach. What tempo and registration would be appropriate for this choral prelude from the Orgelbuchlein. I have the edition edited by Albert Riemenschneider.
If any of you have any other suggestions on whatelse to learn to play, that would be great too. Thanks in advance for your help. Gary
 
There really is no set answer for this, Gary. It will depend on the type of organ, the size of the church, the acoustical environment, etc.

I would play it more slowly and somewhat "detachée" on a big romantically voiced organ in a very resonant space; as opposed to somewhat faster and more legato with voice-leading on a chirpy tracker instrument in a 150-set chapel that's upholstered from stem to stern!

The best way to decide is to play it at several different tempos (tempi?!) and see which sounds and works best to you.

I will say, it does not necessarily have to be played laboriously slow in order to be effective.
 
Hi Gary. Perhaps you might wish to check the 1982 Episcopal Hymnal. Lent comes early this year with Ash Wednesday on
February 6.

Ross
 
The entire Eastertide season is early this year. It's because Easter is based on the lunar calendar: Easter always falls on the first Sunday following the first full moon following the spring equinox.

 
Louis I agree

I like the one you posted. I'd say this guy over registered just a bit given the piece though. His registration is also very German sounding, typical of how many organists register Bach.

I remember well my organ teacher in college(Charles Ore at Concordia Seward NE) telling us that Bach's music was pretty flexible as far as registration goes, and that we should enjoy it. For him that meant he would not frown upon us for playing something with just the flutes or strings, or for using the TUTTI(which I did for the Prelude in C-Major from 8 shorts)

The most important thing is to have fun, and play whatever it is you play for the glory and praise of God.
 
This puzzles me a bit

at my church, the organist confers with the chior director, the ministers, and sometimes the Director of Christian Education, and they all plan it out together, based on the Lectionary and ministerial goals.

We're lucky, we have a marvellous Holtkamp organ, a retired Kent State professor of music for our organist, and are regionally known for our music programs, including our handbell chior.

Lawrence/Maytagbear
 
For the Easter season this works nicely as a postlude with great plenum to mixture, pedal full with reed with a moving tempo. I have used it in memorial services, played more slowly with only an 8' principal and pedal to balance. It is a lovely and useful little piece.
Bobby in Boston
 
foraloysius wrote,
There are several performances on Youtube. I like this one.


EEEEEEEEK! Ouch, my ears!! (With all due respect)

To me, the mixtures (shrill-sounding stops) in this organ are not well regulated and finished, and sound too loud and too screechy. That may be partly due to the quality of the recording, but my ears "know" what the real sound probably is like, having heard so many pipe organs in my life. And I have a feeling this organ is very, very "bright" live and in person.

When I was an organ student in the mid 1970s and learned organ registration "à la baroque," which was very much in vogue at the time, I would have said just the opposite - the screechier, the better! But not only have my tastes changed (for the better, I think), I have also realized that the average person in the pew will better tolerate a mellower sound than this. And since they pay my salary, I have learned to defer to their sensibilities ... to an extent!

Currently, the prevailing "school of thought" in pipe organ building and design overall is a return back to more robust and full-sounding voicing. What in the organ world is called the "romantic" or "symphonic" style.

Also, in my opinion this organist is just "tossing off" the sublime and richly meaningful chorale with no expression, emotion, or spiritual empathy. He plays "deedle-deedle-deedle" like he's playing on a mechanical sewing machine. I personally would take it more slowly, with more rubato (slightly elastic tempo) and with a much mellower registration. It can be a grand and full sound, not saying I'd play it on "String Slush," but I'd tend more toward building up the foundations and chorus reeds rather than going for the mixtures straight away.
 
Thanks everyone

HI there, Thanks for all the helpful hints. I have been practicing slowly using flutes and diapasons, so this seems to work. I did listen to the YouTube version. The organ that I have to play this on at church is a 5 rank unit Wicks so not mixtures etc.
I wish there was a way for me to record this (after I have learned it) on the organ here at home. Eighteen ranks is fun to have in a house complete with 2 reeds and one yet to be installed in the pedal.
I have been trying other choral preludes in the book too and have come up with a couple others that I like. Thanks again. Gary
 

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