Help with Hoover A3260: fix, repair or scrap?

[electron1100]

motors

as far as I know the two motors run at the same speed, I put them round the wrong way once.
There are lots of little variations on timers of the same type, it can be a single function that is altered but nothing major.
providing the advance motor is wired correctly it should only come on every two minutes for a few seconds.

If you have a spare timer put it in, Thanks to Steve for giving a wiring diagram.

Good luck
Gary

 

[sesteve]

I'm no expert but I have consulted the Washing Machine Manual and have copied these pages in case they help - uploaded the old way for clarity. I did read somewhere that sometimes these dual motor timers have one that goes clockwise and one anticlockwise but not sure if this applies to these timers.

Hope it helps
S

 

[sesteve]

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[sesteve]

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[sesteve]

Just realised it refers to a description on the first page so here's that!

 

[triumphtoledo]

re

Thanks for your most recent replies. I think that the advance motor is operating far too quickly - every 20 secs or so. I think that the wiring is now correct.

Steve, thanks so much for replicating the manual - I have the book already though, and I really need more specific information about the B966 timer, versus the D966 timer.

What I have done is pick up a brand new D966 timer, which I think is for the 800rpm version of the A3260 and I will try to transfer the motors from that to the original timer, so see if that makes any difference.

If not, I wonder if the timer can be swapped over, and wired in a way that would make the 500rpm spin redundant, so that only 800 and 1100 remain.

What do you think?...

R

 

[triumphtoledo]

Update

Well I replaced the timer motors but it made no difference. So, considering this extra issue, I feel that the machine is beyond economical repair for me. If anyone wishes to to take it on, let me know. I shall pop it on eBay - if there are no bids, I shall break it up for spares and scrap the remains.

So, does anyone want to take it on?

R

 

[e685x]

Hi!
Can I have a circuit diagram of the motor control board?
Thanks in advance.

 

[sesteve]

Hi Rob

I've had another look in my Service data book. It's not clear as this book is 1986 so it covers models under the A3 series. However it references both B966 and D966 timers - hopefully the attached helps if you fancy a final go at it. It looks like it should be interchangeable so you could have a go at swapping the timers over although as you say the 966 is for 800 machines so there is one less connection between the timer and the motor. 5H on the timer is the one that is missing and that goes to terminal 3 on the motor and is coloured y/w. The other connections look the same although these machines have low temperature buttons rather than the fast normal switches.

The book doesn't seem to have any diagrams for the module I'm afraid

S

 

[e685x]

How unfortunate!

Is there anyone which has got a scanned diagram here on the forum?
Even Hotpoint ones would do just fine ;-)!

 

[triumphtoledo]

Thanks for scanning this Steve. I made an error as time timer I have is a D965 not a D966. Doh! There are quite a few missing connections so it definitely is not a simple swap over job.

On another tack, another machine that may be beyond economical repair here is our trusty Bosch WFL2260. We have had it for 9 years and we bought it second hand. It needs a cold water valve, door gasket, brushes and the suspension is going a bit saggy. May spend the cash on it or replace it with a Hoover Logic or something as we need a hot and cold water feed.

Rob

 

[sesteve]

No worries Rob. That's a shame - I don't think I have anything that references that number timer. Not really sure why the old one would speed through the cycle though if both motors are working correctly. There must be something simple with how it is wired. Looking at the circuit drawing the rapid advance motor wires back to the thermostat so not sure if there is an issue there which might cause it to be energised all the time!

The problem with some of these old machines is that when (if) you find the parts quite often they are quite expensive. Good luck anyway

Steve

 

[e685x]

I'm sure you'll be able to fix it.
Worst case scenario...you know who you could help with its pieces ;-).

 

[triumphtoledo]

Re

Steve. You are a genius. A thermostat issue would make sense in making the timer advance quickly as it is now. I'll take the back off, remove some wires and will report back.

R

 

[triumphtoledo]

update

As a last ditch attempt, I disconnected the thermostat wires and the heater. The timer still advances too quickly - the last 1100rpm spin is less than 30 seconds, so something is still not quite right.

Anyone need any parts? If I had a 1970s front loser, I'd rebuild it, but there seems to be quite a lot of these A3260s around, so I think this one is a breaker...

R

 

[triumphdolomite]

Silly Question

Rob
What does it do on the other section of the timer if you select slow spin, prog P. Is that too quick too? Not sure where I'm going with this theory yet......
Looking at the Product Data Manual I have I think you are correct about the D965 timers, they appear to be OE for the 600 and 800rpm machines.
Ian.

 

[triumphtoledo]

Re

Hi Ian. Sorry for the delay in replying. On the short spin P, the spin lasts for fewer than 30 secs, so I presume it is still over-advancing.

It did not sell on eBay, despite having loads of watchers. It's back on again. If it comes to tipping it, do you want it for spares to repair your Electron?

R

 

[triumphdolomite]

Hi Rob
If it doesn't go this time let me know I could probably have a go at doing something with it.
Thanks
Ian

 

[matchboxpaul]

Hi Rob.

Hopefully you will find it a new home.

Always annoying when, no matter how hard you try to help a machine, it just doesn't want to play ball. One niggling, unidentified fault playing havoc.

Paul