Help With HooverMatic 3314L

[wight_rabbit]

Hi!

I am new here and I have the opportunity to acquire in very good cosmetic condition a Hoover Matic 3314L.

However although the paintwork and washtub and spinner are pretty much immaculate the machine is missing a fill hose. I think these have 2 hoses on the back. One is a drain hose the other a fill hose you connect to a sink tap. It is this part that is missing. Is there something obtainable for this and where does it connect on?

Secondly the person selling the machine says that the Spin part works but the washer part doesnt. Now I am not sure if this is due to the missing hose as it hasn't been tried with filling it with buckets of water. I assume the machine won't work unless it is filled with water.

I have looked at a wiring diagram for this machine online and there appears to be very little to go wrong.

 

[launderess]

Hoses

Might still be had had new, check this forum for posts about vendors in both the UK and Oz offering such items. It may be a long search but they are out there. Also check eBay and similar places for Hoover TT spares.

As for the washer portion not operating first find out if the motor runs. If that is the case it just might be a case of a slipped/broken belt. Simply take off the back and *carefully* start up the machine. If the belt is attached see if it starts to turn but seems "frozen", in which case perhaps a good tug may free it.

Hoover TT's really like to be used. Sitting idle for long period of time can cause problems. This is often true if the units have been used for a very splashy washing day (it happens) and water has gotten down into the works and then frozen or otherwise encrusted bits here and there.

 

[sesteve]

Welcome

Hello

Welcome to AW. I've seen the same machine too!! It's definitely missing the fill hose as was my 3314L when I got mine. I managed after much scouring to find one on the Internet but I was convinced it was the last one. Then about a month later one turned up on eBay so if you get it then you will have to keep your eyes peeled!! That said, my fallback plan was to buy a Hoovermatic drain hose which are readily available and adapt it. I remember a friends mum having one of these machines when I was growing up and it had been adapted using some garden hose!! It connects onto a stub (cant think of the correct term) on the spin tub which in turn connects to the fill spout on the top of the spinner. You lift this up and swivel over to the wash tub to fill it up and then swivel over the spin can for the auto rinsing. Should be straightforward.

With regard to the wash side if the main control is in the motor or rinse position then the wash motor should start when the timer is turned on regardless of whether there is water in there or not. It may be that the belt has come off, there is a problem with the micro switch in the timer which also has a mechanical link to the motor or the motor has packed up itself. It might just be that the seller doesn't know how to use it!!

If you end up getting it I have a copy of the instruction booklet which I can scan and send.

Good luck

 

[launderess]

Yes, Any Hose Can Be Fitted On The Pump

For use as a drain hose, one just requires the proper diameter to fit then it is only a matter of length.

Needed a longer drain hose than the original for my Hoover TT so took a pump one had lying about spare to local supply shop. There simply purchased several feet of washing machine drain tubing. Back home clamped one end to the pump and fed the rest up and out of the machine through the portal provided. As the men say down at the pub, it was a piece of p***. *LOL*

 

[vacbear58]

3314

Just to clarify, this machine has the moveable water spout that can be twisted over the spin can or lifted and twisted to fill the drum - although it is a UK machine it is similar in principle to US machines with automatic rinse.

Firstly, the fill hose is by no means essential although you would not be able to use the automatic rinse facility without it. But any sort of flexible hose of the right diameter should fit fine - a longer modern plastic generic drain hose might even do - its is by no means an impossible situation.

As SE Steve indicates above there could be any number of reasons why the wash "does not work" but parts are common and, if necessary, a donor machine should be easily available. And for all the machine is going to cost, if its the one I am thinking of, it would be well worth getting.

However, there are a couple of other tests you might like to make. get the seller to pour a bucket of HOT water into teh spin can and let it sit for a few minutes. Are there any leaks? Put the drain hose into the wash tub, turn the switch to motor, and close the spinner lod. Does the spinner work? And more importantly, DOES IT DRAIN? (Sorry, this has been a recurrant problem on my 3314 and I paid a hell of a lot more for mine). If not, it is still not the end of the world but it will indicate another problem. If it does drain let it empty into the wash tub and then top up with more hot water to cover the pulsator. Again, check for leaks. If it is draining the spinner then draining the tub is no problem as it uses the spinner pump to do so.

But I will re-iterate, for the price this machine is well worth having, even if it does need some work.

Al

 

[sesteve]

Agreed

I have to agree with Al. These are really easy to repair and this one looks great cosmetically so it will be a bargain unless it goes really mad!! I have quite a few parts that I acquired with a T5090 as the owners had had many variants of the Hoovermatic over the years and had stripped them each time they upgraded. I keep meaning to test things like the motors and pumps so I can list them for others to use but there just never seems to be enough hours in the day.

Mine is in a sorry state as I rescued it from being turned into a bio diesel reactor of all things. It works well but needs a respray!!

Keep us posted on how you get on
Cheers
Steve

 

[wight_rabbit]

If the motor on this is totally gone - burned out - is the machine repairable. I have been googling for 3314L motor but nothing comes up as a replacement.

 

[launderess]

Yes, It Tis

But you're going to need a new or used motor to do the swapping out.

Though an earlier model than yours the service manual for my Hoover TT tells how to remove and replace the motor IIRC, but it is a bear of a job and glad so far one hasn't needed to do so.

 

[wight_rabbit]

This machine. Belt on washer fine, wont start to wash. Dead. Wont pump out
Either wash tub or spinner. One control knob broken. Cosmeticallyvery nice though. Any opinions?

 

[vacbear58]

One control knob broken

From what you are saying it sounds like the main control (the middle one)
Off/Motor/Rinse/Temperature selector is faulty. You don't mention if the spin motor is actually running, if not then it is almost certainly the control knob. These were used for about 25 years so a replacement should be easy enough to locate with patience. Or perhaps a break in the cable. A continuity tester should soon get to the root of the problem.

You do realise that in order to empty the wash tub that you need to have the spinner running and the left hand control knob set to "empty tub"? Unlike earlier models there is not a separate pump on the wash tub driven my the wash motor - the spinner pump covers both tasks.

Al

 

[wight_rabbit]

Hi. Spinner runs fine and yes valve set to empty tub. Spinner wont pump out when spinning nor will the tub when spinner runs and valve set to empty tub. Heater works though.

 

[vacbear58]

Draining

OK, well I can assure you this is not the only machine with that pump problem, mine has it too - it may be its missing a belt or needs a new one. Or the pump may be gunked up with washing powder sediment and God knows what else. It is easy to take apart, clean and lubricate before needing to think of a new one. As the seller suggests it may be that the wash motor brushes need replacing but even if the whole thing is buggered a replacement should be simple enough, we really need Mathew to come in on this one as he is very knowledgable on technical matters.

Al

 

[vacbear58]

Oh

And as the spinner is running and the heater working it sounds like the main (central) control is OK.

Al

 

[ozzie908]

Whilst waiting for Mathew

Think about this if the spin motor is running then the wash motor should be as the main dial must be on motor to make either run it sounds like its either a dodgy microswitch or the motor has died and to my knowledge there are no brushes in the wash motor only the spin.

Austin

 

[sesteve]

Pump

Sounds to me like either the pump belt is missing, the pump has seized or the pulley on the pump shaft is loose. As Al says it is easy to strip the pump down and give it a good clean. It might be that the two cups that control where the water comes from (either spinner or wash tub) have become stuck over the outlets or the impellor has come off the shaft.

You can get replacement knobs and I might have some myself. With the wash motor you need to check whether power is getting to the motor in which case you can eliminate the wash timer control if it is. If not then it is probably the motor. I'm sure I have a spare one too which has the connection for the timer link cable.

Cheers
Stephen

 

[wight_rabbit]

My Goodness it sold for £62!!!!

 

[vacbear58]

Sold

Even with it not working it was worth £62, and probably a good deal more. These are reasonably rare and this does seem in good condition - I paid double that for mine and even it has issues with the drain pump.

But bide your time, there are plenty of Hoovermatics around and even the much later ones still operate on basically the same principle.

Al

 

[wight_rabbit]

No you do not understand I am the person who won it!

Jeez I hope I can get it going. I feel I may have just blown £62 so any form of pep talk would be welcome!

 

[wight_rabbit]

Right so regarding the pump:

Is the pump on here 3314L not powered by electric? It sounds to me like it is driven by a belt that is connected to the spin motor perhaps?

I have not seen inside one. On modenr machines like my Miele Washer Dryer the pump is electically powered.