Here It Is: The LG 9810 Dishwasher (Photos of 1st Load)

[andrewinorlando]

But the big difference.....

.....between the LG and the Maytag is that the LG washes only one rack at a time, while the Maytag washes two (or three for three rack models). So the LG needs twice as long to wash a load as it switches back and forth washing two racks, one at a time. In this way, it can use half the water and energy (approximately) to do the same work, but takes twice the time because it does the job one rack at a time instead of two. So a two hour cycle in the LG may roughly translate to a one hour cycle on a Maytag dishwasher. So there is definitely an energy advantage to the LG. Their BOL model, at $600+, is a pretty good value, while their TOL model at over $1400 is quite a pricey model, considering Maytag builds a steam dishwasher, too, for under $800.

 

[frigilux]

Andrew--- You're right; Since the LG washes one rack at a time, it can use substantially less water. It also has a more intelligent sensor than the Maytag. The LG's sensor checks turbidity during each phase (at least that's what I think it's doing). If the water passes muster, it returns to washing without another fill. If the water is gunky, it drains, fills, then continues washing.

I'll admit I miss the 20-minute InstaWash cycle. It irks me that the shortest cycle is 74 minutes. But I'll adjust. The LG has other features that I wouldn't want to give up.

Once again, a feature I thought would be a nuisance (the tiered upper rack of the Maytag, for example) turned out to be my favorite; In the case of the LG, it's the cutlery/flatware rack. I've pulled the flatware basket out and put it under the sink. I load all the silverware Up There, now. It cleans very well. That opens up a lot of room in the bottom rack.

The LG is SO much quieter than the Maytag. I love that.

Bob (Appnut)---- You're right; The cycle time shown at the beginning of the cycle isn't always exactly accurate. I did another big load of pots/pans using the World's Longest Cycle® and it didn't take 3:31 at all. It was done in 3:26, LOL!

In fact, I sold the Maytag today. Our local radio station has a call-in program for buying/selling and it was gone within an hour. A happy couple whose BOL Frigidaire bit the dust got a great deal on an excellent, like-new Maytag, which I have no doubt they'll be very happy with. They loved the stainless interior.

One more bonus: I thought our local utility had ended their Energy Star rebate program. Turns out that wasn't correct; I'm getting a $100 rebate!

And the LG plays a cute---if harmonically nonsensical---little melody at the end of every cycle. Nice, very nice.

 

[gadgetgary]

Eugene

How does the LG dry?

 

[frigilux]

Everything except plastics dries quite well. Glasses with concave bottoms will hold a little water. Dinner knives loaded in the cutlery rack usually have a drop or two of water on them where they lean against the little guides.

I haven't really used the flatware basket in the bottom rack to compare drying performance. I'll have to give it a try. It's so convenient to load flatware in that top rack that I've removed the basket altogether.

I've rarely used the heated dry on any of my dishwashers, so I don't have a lot to compare it to. I'm used to there being a bit of water certain items. The Maytag didn't have a fan-assisted dry cycle, so it tended to leave things a little wet when not using heated dry.

The Maytag also didn't have a vent---not out the front, anyway. The LG vents out the the bottom of the door on the left side. I've read complaints of water pooling on the floor near the vent, but that hasn't happened in my kitchen, yet. Steam is definitely hitting the floor, though. I'm glad it's not a wood floor. I have vinyl.

 

[rolls_rapide]

End of cycle signal

Wouldn't it be wonderful if it spoke to you?

Like THIS one...!

http://stuff.tv/review/Electrolux-ESL68500-Talkie/

 

[nmaineman36]

Very nice machine. 3+ hours is a bit long but with results like that I wouldnt mind either. Love the lighting. Not many dishwashers have an LED lighting system like that but thats just too cool.

 

[DADoES]

There was a discussion last year of concern over long dishwasher cycles using excessive amounts of energy. I posted some figures on my DishDrawer's power consumption. The figures were quite low, seems to me.

Scenario 1: Household water heater on 70°F to insure the dishwasher must do all the heating. Normal cycle, 115 mins, 5 water changes, 140°F main wash, 150°F final rinse. Power consumption, a tad less than 0.6 KWH. Figured at $0.15/KWH, that's 9 cents.

Scenario 2: Normal Eco cycle, 88 mins, 4 water changes, 125°F main wash and final rinse. 0.4 KWH. 6 cents.

Scenario 3: Heavy cycle, 132 mins, 7 water changes, 150°F main wash, 163°F final rinse. 0.68 KWH used. About 10 cents.

Fill is about 45 watts (pump runs at low speed). Water heating with recirculation, maximum 650 watts. Pump recirculating, varies about 75 to 110 watts. Pump drain, 30 to 45 watts. Drying fan, 7 watts.

 

[nmaineman36]

The Fisher and Paykel Dishdrawer is one I have to honestly say that I dont miss having. Mine bit the big one after 3 years. And it amazes me how many I see at an appliance dealers platform of junked machines. The new Consumer Reports are suggesting people to stay away from any and all dishdrawers. Even the new Kenmore/Whirlpool Maytag built machines are not exactly prize winners. They tested 3 machines by Kenmore and all 3 had the same problem. The top drawer wouldnt drain completely between cycles. That would case dirty wash water to be carried over from one segment of the cycle to the other. Not a good thing.
So far my Miele has proven she is a keeper. Cleans well and very rarely I find anything emerge dirty from it.And she is quiet. So much so when its running I can barely hear it and sometimes not at all.

 

[DADoES]

OK, ignore the fact that it's a DishDrawer (that'll be five years old in two months, and has thus far needed no repairs). The point was that a cycle 2 hrs 12 mins long pulled about 2/3 KWH of power, which includes heating to 163°F. My last electric bill (for period of 4/23 to 5/23/2008) was $0.1285/KWH. So that'd be 8.7 cents. Which is probably less cost than the eco-detractors expect. Except then consider again that it IS a DishDrawer, so running BOTH drawers would be 17 cents, which I suppose IS outrageous.

 

[dj-gabriele]

DADoES: If you think that 17 cents is outrageous what should I say?

My machine is AAB rated (yup, EU energy classification for energy, washing, drying) and on the economic cycle it draws 1,1 KW and on standard 1,4 KW... at my rates it translates to respectively to 26 and 33 € cents (0,41 $ and 0,52 $)... that is otrageous! (but I still run it twice a day!)

EUGENE: That LG machine is very cool but, at least here in Italy everybody is avoiding the brand, washers are under-performing and with absurd long cycles and dishwashers are more expensive than the staple Italian brands (Smeg, Hoover, Candy, Indesit, Hotpoint, Ariston...) and don't offer any special feature.
Though I must say that the 3rd drawer seems a nice feature and that I love the leds inside the cavity!

 

[johnb300m]

America's gobbling up LG.

As if you didn't figure it out, we love asian products. (sarcasm on)

 

[DADoES]

Gabriele, my comment about 17 cents being outrageous was intended as a joke.