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The dryer remains 8 cu.ft.
The dryer remains 8 cu.ft.
Here we go: 5.1 cu.ft. Electrolux
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dj-gabriele
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Gosh, what do you need a machine so big for?
5,1 cubic feet is 144 litres, that would be at least a 15 kg machine!
5,1 cubic feet is 144 litres, that would be at least a 15 kg machine!
according to the video, the dryer is 8 cubic feet, enough to hold a FULL SIZE comforter!.....that should hold a KING size plus the sheets and pillow cases, and for that price it should!!!
mrb627
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Looks like more marketing flair on the same old machine. I laugh at the 92 cycles. Gimmee a Break!
Malcolm
Looks like more marketing flair on the same old machine. I laugh at the 92 cycles. Gimmee a Break!
Malcolm
passatdoc
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Well, with the new Frigidaire branded machines coming in at 4.0-4.4 cubic feet, they need to protect Electrolux's market share. 4.4 (Frigidaire) was getting too close to their current 4.7 (Electrolux) capacity.
I have a laundry sorter at home with three large sorting bags, plus an overhead shelf and rack to hang clothes from the dryer. When one of those bags is full, it is a full load in my 3.5 cubic foot Frigidaire 2140. With a 5.1 washer, I'd have to fill the bags to 1/3 overflowing just to fill the machine and not waste energy/water by washing a "small" load.
I have a laundry sorter at home with three large sorting bags, plus an overhead shelf and rack to hang clothes from the dryer. When one of those bags is full, it is a full load in my 3.5 cubic foot Frigidaire 2140. With a 5.1 washer, I'd have to fill the bags to 1/3 overflowing just to fill the machine and not waste energy/water by washing a "small" load.
Anyone Can Build An Uber Capacity Washer
However the question is what sort of build quality is going into the thing?
I mean just how long will it cope with full sized,or even the odd over sized loads on a regular basis before the bearings/supports give way? Also should such things happen is the unit designed to be repaired (separate bearings, spiders, etc...), or a uni-tubs and bearing thing where the thing might as well be chucked verus cost of repair.
Consider also while the temptation of "more is better" in terms of capacity, front loading washing machines acutally wash better, spin better and last longer when used at full rated loads. Having a 15lb washer when one mainly does nothing but routine loads half that size, but wants the space for the now and then "bulky" item really isn't the way to go.
However the question is what sort of build quality is going into the thing?
I mean just how long will it cope with full sized,or even the odd over sized loads on a regular basis before the bearings/supports give way? Also should such things happen is the unit designed to be repaired (separate bearings, spiders, etc...), or a uni-tubs and bearing thing where the thing might as well be chucked verus cost of repair.
Consider also while the temptation of "more is better" in terms of capacity, front loading washing machines acutally wash better, spin better and last longer when used at full rated loads. Having a 15lb washer when one mainly does nothing but routine loads half that size, but wants the space for the now and then "bulky" item really isn't the way to go.
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LOLZ by 2012 at this rate we will have an 8.0cu ft washer 10.0 cu ft dryer LOL really these are for IMO a large family that justifies having this it just makes me laugh!
Methinks These Uber Sized Front Loaders
Are a way of getting around the fact Americans by and large still do not like making an everyday event of laundry, nor want to wait ages for the process to be complete.
The most popular washers are local laundromat are the 25lb and 50lb machines. People come in with huge sacks of laundry, throw the entire contents into one machine and that is that.
Despite various efforts, top loading washing machines are still the majority of washing machines in the US domestic market, and that is what consumers compare a new machine against.
Will agree with you, the average family probably would have to save up their washing for a week or longer to load fully anything greater than say 18lbs, but that isn't going to stop the "capacity wars".
Are a way of getting around the fact Americans by and large still do not like making an everyday event of laundry, nor want to wait ages for the process to be complete.
The most popular washers are local laundromat are the 25lb and 50lb machines. People come in with huge sacks of laundry, throw the entire contents into one machine and that is that.
Despite various efforts, top loading washing machines are still the majority of washing machines in the US domestic market, and that is what consumers compare a new machine against.
Will agree with you, the average family probably would have to save up their washing for a week or longer to load fully anything greater than say 18lbs, but that isn't going to stop the "capacity wars".
Capacity wars
They're already close to the upper limit. Customer acceptance of a machine larger than about 27 inches will go down rapidly with size, as it will have to fit where the old washer/dryer pair were. There is a limit to what you can fit inside of that space.
They're already close to the upper limit. Customer acceptance of a machine larger than about 27 inches will go down rapidly with size, as it will have to fit where the old washer/dryer pair were. There is a limit to what you can fit inside of that space.
Well, according to energystar.gov this washer has a capacity of 4.42 cubic feet. The higher capacity is probably this "if it were an agitator top loader than the capacity would be..." type of rating.
Alex (who is just writing this via WiFi on his new cell phone - amazing *lol*)
Alex (who is just writing this via WiFi on his new cell phone - amazing *lol*)
passatdoc
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4.42 correlates with the capacity of the new Frigidaire mode
They range in size from 4.0 to 4.4. The 4.2 and 4.4 models have steam. I wonder if the model you found is just a top of the line Electrolux where they've found a creative new way to recalculate a larger capacity on the same size machine. I noticed that width/height/depth are the same as the "smaller" 4.7 Electroluxes.
I agree with Launderess: my 3.5 cu ft Frigidaire suits me just fine. When the sorting bag is full, it will make a full load in the washer. If I wanted to wash full loads in a machine that really is 4.4 or 4.7, I'd have to have sorting bags that were overflowing. I don't have a need to do all my laundry on one day. If I don't have time on a given evening or weekend, I use the delay wash feature, set up a load to run at 4 am, and when I wake up, it's washed and ready for 30-40 minutes in the dryer. You don't have to have a big block of free time if you use delay wash.
They range in size from 4.0 to 4.4. The 4.2 and 4.4 models have steam. I wonder if the model you found is just a top of the line Electrolux where they've found a creative new way to recalculate a larger capacity on the same size machine. I noticed that width/height/depth are the same as the "smaller" 4.7 Electroluxes.
I agree with Launderess: my 3.5 cu ft Frigidaire suits me just fine. When the sorting bag is full, it will make a full load in the washer. If I wanted to wash full loads in a machine that really is 4.4 or 4.7, I'd have to have sorting bags that were overflowing. I don't have a need to do all my laundry on one day. If I don't have time on a given evening or weekend, I use the delay wash feature, set up a load to run at 4 am, and when I wake up, it's washed and ready for 30-40 minutes in the dryer. You don't have to have a big block of free time if you use delay wash.
Energystar lists the biggest Frigidaire (model 4474) as 3.81 cubic feet versus 4.02 for the smallest Electrolux.
laundromat
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Most Americans who use top loading agitator washers---
-- don't wait until the machines fills to be sure the load has enough water to agitate properly. They throw the load in,pour in the detergent and walk away to spray "Scrubbing Bubbles" into their toilet,"Easy Off" in their oven,"Windex" on their glass windows and "Pledge" on their laminated furniture.As long as they don't have to see inside,they have no clue and care less about overloads.Those who are fortunate enough to have the front loaders usualy underload them. Then they complain about them not spinning the water out.They also use the wrong detergent and too much of it along with too much liquid bleach.Most complain about mildew on the boot but refuse to leave the door open when not using the washer.They also slam the door breaking the door lock which dissables it to spin.Then,they go and buy new ones.I try to teach folks how to properly load,maintain and be conservitive on additiives but,you can't teach old dogs new tricks. Those who listened and asked questions,still have the original units they bought years ago and have had no issues at all(Neptunes not included)with theirs and highly recomend them to others.In my own experiences with them,I know I'll never go back to any oscilating agitator washers and am glad to see the vision I had way back around 1980 come true. I had written a letter to Frigidaire after the WCI takeover and said that they needed to do a complete overhaul on the White Westinghouse front loaders and introduce them soon to make up for the loss on the vertical up and down agitators they were so popular for.It took them a while but,look at them now.They make the most inexpensive as well as the most expensive models around.I was glad to see the new dryers out and do prefer the Frigidaires over the E'Luxes.I'd still like to see E'Luxe redesign them like the original Westinghouse Laundromat with the slanted front,Weigh to Save door and interior drum light.
-- don't wait until the machines fills to be sure the load has enough water to agitate properly. They throw the load in,pour in the detergent and walk away to spray "Scrubbing Bubbles" into their toilet,"Easy Off" in their oven,"Windex" on their glass windows and "Pledge" on their laminated furniture.As long as they don't have to see inside,they have no clue and care less about overloads.Those who are fortunate enough to have the front loaders usualy underload them. Then they complain about them not spinning the water out.They also use the wrong detergent and too much of it along with too much liquid bleach.Most complain about mildew on the boot but refuse to leave the door open when not using the washer.They also slam the door breaking the door lock which dissables it to spin.Then,they go and buy new ones.I try to teach folks how to properly load,maintain and be conservitive on additiives but,you can't teach old dogs new tricks. Those who listened and asked questions,still have the original units they bought years ago and have had no issues at all(Neptunes not included)with theirs and highly recomend them to others.In my own experiences with them,I know I'll never go back to any oscilating agitator washers and am glad to see the vision I had way back around 1980 come true. I had written a letter to Frigidaire after the WCI takeover and said that they needed to do a complete overhaul on the White Westinghouse front loaders and introduce them soon to make up for the loss on the vertical up and down agitators they were so popular for.It took them a while but,look at them now.They make the most inexpensive as well as the most expensive models around.I was glad to see the new dryers out and do prefer the Frigidaires over the E'Luxes.I'd still like to see E'Luxe redesign them like the original Westinghouse Laundromat with the slanted front,Weigh to Save door and interior drum light.
this come out close to a 30 lb load
this is getting into commerical area now and things change a lot most souped up machines and foundations cannot handle a load that large for long. they will also find the dryers will not dry well at all. the dryer needs to be at least 1 1/2 X ths size of the washer. And really should be 2x for ease of handling larger items.
this is getting into commerical area now and things change a lot most souped up machines and foundations cannot handle a load that large for long. they will also find the dryers will not dry well at all. the dryer needs to be at least 1 1/2 X ths size of the washer. And really should be 2x for ease of handling larger items.
Go To Any Laundromat
Peer inside the drum of even the smallest front loader, and at the back you will see the area where a *huge* and hefty bearing/support are, now look at these so called "uber capacity" washing machines. There isn't any contest.
Peer inside the drum of even the smallest front loader, and at the back you will see the area where a *huge* and hefty bearing/support are, now look at these so called "uber capacity" washing machines. There isn't any contest.
Back When
One was looking for a new washing machine (before we got the Miele), did some research into uber-sized capacity front loaders. As our previous unit was a Malber that held about that the Miele does if not a bit less, wanted to get something that held a bit more.
The upshot was from every washer tech and information one could find is that far better to slightly once and awhile over load a front loader (within reason and depending upon what one is washing), than to purchase a washer with more capacity than one will routinely use.
Rationale is simple: front loaders wash and spin their best at rated or near capacity. Loading a 15lb washer with 8lbs of laundry can cause all sorts of problems down the line.
Depending upon how the drum is designed, if the load is too small it may not be "lifted and dropped" , but slosh about from section to section between fins. While this may result in a more delicate wash action, it could give less than great cleaning results.
In terms of balance,distribution and extraction, again depending upon design and how the unit is programmed, it could spend ages trying to balance a small load, and even then may not suceed. Then the unit will either spin with the unbalanced load (lots of vibration/shaking), or in some cases (again depending upon the programming), simply not spin at all.
Excess vibration/shaking is not good for a front loader, especially if it happens all the time as dealing with unbalanced loads caused by under use of capacity. Even with the best built machines, things will start to work their way loose if subject to this treatment over and over.
One was looking for a new washing machine (before we got the Miele), did some research into uber-sized capacity front loaders. As our previous unit was a Malber that held about that the Miele does if not a bit less, wanted to get something that held a bit more.
The upshot was from every washer tech and information one could find is that far better to slightly once and awhile over load a front loader (within reason and depending upon what one is washing), than to purchase a washer with more capacity than one will routinely use.
Rationale is simple: front loaders wash and spin their best at rated or near capacity. Loading a 15lb washer with 8lbs of laundry can cause all sorts of problems down the line.
Depending upon how the drum is designed, if the load is too small it may not be "lifted and dropped" , but slosh about from section to section between fins. While this may result in a more delicate wash action, it could give less than great cleaning results.
In terms of balance,distribution and extraction, again depending upon design and how the unit is programmed, it could spend ages trying to balance a small load, and even then may not suceed. Then the unit will either spin with the unbalanced load (lots of vibration/shaking), or in some cases (again depending upon the programming), simply not spin at all.
Excess vibration/shaking is not good for a front loader, especially if it happens all the time as dealing with unbalanced loads caused by under use of capacity. Even with the best built machines, things will start to work their way loose if subject to this treatment over and over.
Laujdress, I find that if I wash a less than full load in my Fridgemore, but the whole load is essentially the same type of clothing or fabric type (undies, or slack, or the same type of shirt, even towels), balancing isn't a big problem and there's very little tub vibration. but then again, i wonder just ow many "normal" people consider to compose a load of pretty much alike fabric weights & types.
