brettsomers
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mayken4now
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cool, thanks for sharing.
Steve
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Wow - what a great clip - and such a rare HOH dryer too - push button!
Ben
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OMG, I haven't seen that commercial for 41 years. That's one that was etched into my memory. And Ben, that Maytag set was brand new, so not "rare" then lol. I remember getting my first pair of slacks like that. When the mother wasn't home, I put them in the 12/23/64 Norge set. The W'n'W cycle was hot/cold, n/s. The hot water killed the finish on them and they were ok, but not great in post laundry results. Learned my lesson. Subsequent acquired perm press clothes were washed in warm and came out great. Personally, I also found out once the iron touched one of those shirts, it was "ruined", never came out of dryer as good either. Despite my strict orders to not iron any of my shirts, they were and ruined. In less than 2 years, I was doing my own lau8ndry.
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Bob, why do you suppose the program for that type of fabric was hot water? One would have thought they'd research that type of thing when designing the machine (at least back at that time). I do remember there being things like that where heat or ironing would ruin the finish. Must have been the makeup of the fabrics they were using at the time to try and achieve the no iron effect.
Scott I have no idea why they chose hot water. Subsequent versions did offer a warm water cycle version, but that wasn't fofr another 3 or 4 years.
Howdy, Scott!
Hot water was often recommended for "sturdy" and heavy soil Perm Press loads. Warmer temps (theoretically) helped relax the fabric to shed wrinkles. The lid instructions on many Whirlpool and Kenmore machines recommended it. Hot/Cold for sturdy, Warm/Cold for regular/delicate Perm Press. IIRC, the longer Perm Press cycle on programmed/alphabet Kenmores (C? D?) was typically for a hot wash.
Hot water was often recommended for "sturdy" and heavy soil Perm Press loads. Warmer temps (theoretically) helped relax the fabric to shed wrinkles. The lid instructions on many Whirlpool and Kenmore machines recommended it. Hot/Cold for sturdy, Warm/Cold for regular/delicate Perm Press. IIRC, the longer Perm Press cycle on programmed/alphabet Kenmores (C? D?) was typically for a hot wash.
neptunebob
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I guess this is what they had before Dockers?!
Polyester is an amazing material, it seems to be almost indestructable unless it is abraded - then it pills and feels like a Scotch-Brite pad. John Travolta could probably still dance around in the white suit he wore in "Saturday Night Fever", the polyester would last forever.
One reason why it seems like things from the 70's never seem to go away!
Polyester is an amazing material, it seems to be almost indestructable unless it is abraded - then it pills and feels like a Scotch-Brite pad. John Travolta could probably still dance around in the white suit he wore in "Saturday Night Fever", the polyester would last forever.
One reason why it seems like things from the 70's never seem to go away!
jasonl
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I hate dialup
I hate, loathe, abhor, despise, detest dialup. That's all I have here and I can't watch Youtube unless I'm at work leeching their 3meg fiber line.
Dialup sucks and Satalite sux because if you download too much, they cut you off.
I hate, loathe, abhor, despise, detest dialup. That's all I have here and I can't watch Youtube unless I'm at work leeching their 3meg fiber line.
Dialup sucks and Satalite sux because if you download too much, they cut you off.
The Kenmore Combo's Permanent Press cycle used hot wash also, which sounded horrible until you consider all that had to be heated up. By the time the wash was going good, the water was not steaming hot. I think a lot of the perma-press cycles were geared to dress shirts. These were still the days of "Ring Around the Collar", greasy hair "tonics" and less than daily shampooing among men and the clothing, detergent and washer makers wanted to see the best results where they would be noticed most.
The sad trick that has been pulled on the consumer is this 100% cotton crap; like any polyester is a carcinogen. The strength of the synthetic fiber really helped keep cotton from wearing, fraying and going limp. Now you buy 100% cotton and have to replace good pants every year or so because the edges of pockets, cuffs and creases start to wear out, even if you turn them inside out when laundering them. Polyester got a bad reputation from leisure suits and shirts that absorbed no perspiration so you dripped, smelled and were chilled by cold, wet fabric. If you think about it, polyester also seemed to go by the wayside when oil took a couple of price hikes by the early 80s. Before that, it had been cheaper than cotton. Once cotton could be turned into garments in the same third-world countries where it was grown, we got stuck with a more iffy version of perma-press called "wrinkle resistant" and other terms that did not promise as much. It was more the resin-treated wash 'n wear fabrics that were damaged by heat, cotton/poly could take it in both the washer and dryer. The owner's manual from the 1958 Lady goes into great detail about fibers, fabrics and finishes and which of the Wash 'n Wear settings, C, D, or E, or F for the Delicate cycle, should be used. If you check the catalogs of work uniform manufacturers, their shirts and pants that are Permanent Press are still the cotton/poly blend because they stand up to hard wear and hardware without wearing out.
The sad trick that has been pulled on the consumer is this 100% cotton crap; like any polyester is a carcinogen. The strength of the synthetic fiber really helped keep cotton from wearing, fraying and going limp. Now you buy 100% cotton and have to replace good pants every year or so because the edges of pockets, cuffs and creases start to wear out, even if you turn them inside out when laundering them. Polyester got a bad reputation from leisure suits and shirts that absorbed no perspiration so you dripped, smelled and were chilled by cold, wet fabric. If you think about it, polyester also seemed to go by the wayside when oil took a couple of price hikes by the early 80s. Before that, it had been cheaper than cotton. Once cotton could be turned into garments in the same third-world countries where it was grown, we got stuck with a more iffy version of perma-press called "wrinkle resistant" and other terms that did not promise as much. It was more the resin-treated wash 'n wear fabrics that were damaged by heat, cotton/poly could take it in both the washer and dryer. The owner's manual from the 1958 Lady goes into great detail about fibers, fabrics and finishes and which of the Wash 'n Wear settings, C, D, or E, or F for the Delicate cycle, should be used. If you check the catalogs of work uniform manufacturers, their shirts and pants that are Permanent Press are still the cotton/poly blend because they stand up to hard wear and hardware without wearing out.
Tom, I still can find some poly/cotton blend button-down-the-front shirts (which I wear to work), but thus far, only at Wal-Mart. I hope they don't disappear all together cut I really do not like the all-cotton "winkle-resistant" versions of these.
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Very interesting what you say about the shirts Tom, it certainly makes sense from that standpoint.
I too have never been one to think that polyester in moderation is a bad thing.
I too have never been one to think that polyester in moderation is a bad thing.
I agree Scott. I just don't wanna see any of those knit bell-bottomed, with the cuff, polyester slacks I had during high school & college. Talk about pilling. At this point in time in our laundry history at our house, with the Kenmore 800 brand new or a bit older, I could do 3 knit/delicate cycles to one perm press cycle of clothes. I'd do the perm press sheets on PP cycle too.
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LOL Bob I had lots of those pants, and the long-sleeve shirts with the puffy sleeves, either those or the knit ones with the little zippers on front!!
neat!
