Hoover Twosome

[norwichchap]

Hi All,

I'm a newbie here but have been checking out the forum for a few years now. I have finally managed to get my hands on a restoration project which I am really excited about! It's a Hoover twosome, non-wringer single tub and matching Spinarinse with a bridging section! I'm picking it up this coming weekend. Pic attached.

If there's any tips on what to look out for and which bits are likely to have worn out then I'd be grateful for them. I'm quite a hands-on chap and looking forward to getting these up and running again.

I think someone has already 'modified' the Spinarinse as the top outlet looks like it has cracked and been replaced with a standard Hoover outlet hose. Ingenious and I'll see what state it is in when I get it.

Cheers

Ed

 

[vacbear58]

Twosome

Ed,

Welcome to AW and congratulations on your new purchase which has already appeared in our Shoppers Square forum and another member has commented that he used to service these machines some years ago

See the link below - you will have to scroll down to reply 49 with the member reply on reply 71

UK classic Appliances March 2016

Another month, another thread. Lots to look at so lets get going with an AEG Dishwasher. 1990s? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/322025511407?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

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[revvinkevin]

 

 

Hi Ed, 

 

Welcome to AW from "across the pond" and CONGRATS on your new acquisitions!

 

How interesting, they are like twin tub separates!   What vintage are they?

 

Cheers,

Kevin

 

[centenialguy]

Cool!

I've not seen these before. thanks for the pics.

 

[vacbear58]

Twosome

Ed

You will be well advised to see if you can get some Sun of A Gun (readily available off ebay) to help lubricate the hoses.

As soon as you get them home, do a visual inspection they will probably need a bit of a clean to get rid of dust, spiders webs etc. and inspect hoses and cables.

If you have any S of a G carefully lubricate the hoses, particularly the ones coming off the wash tub and spin can to the pumps as they are hardest to replace.
If all well, pour a large jug or half a kettle of really hot water (not boiling) and leave it to sit for about half an hour. If no leaks a bucket of really hot water in the spinner and as much as will well cover the impellor on the washer and leave to sit for a couple of hours.

This is important as it helps rehydrate hoses and seals which may have dried out and become brittle.

After this time, if no leaks, try moving the pulleys by hand to see if they move freely and, if so, time to plug in and give them a go - don't forget to use an RCD device on the socket to protect yourself - these machines will be upwards of 50 years old. Whilst trying the washer remove the grey hose at the back of the machine rom the left hand stop to allow the water to re-circulate - keep a sieve handy to catch any bits that re dislodged from the pump.

These hints will get you started, other with more knowledge will contribute if you have more technical issues. I am attaching another link which is regarding the very similar wringer washer and, towards the end, you will see scans I posted at the time of a brochure for the twosome at that time.

Make sure that if you run the washer with the lid off that the impellor is well covered withy water otherwise you will get very wet, very quickly

Al

Talk About "Through the Wringer"

This poor soul, I picked this poor little guy up this week, and my oh my what a state of affairs. I've been looking for one of these for a few years now, and while not in great shape, I see hope and I think I can get her in usable shape (maybe)... Not sure on the year, I'd guess early...

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[vacbear58]

Twosome

The Twosome was a very clever Hoover marketing idea first seen in 1958 when they introduced the Spinarinse spin dryer - more or less at the same time as the Hoovermatic was launched. This style of washer has been in production since 1953, first with a manual and later a power wringer.

It had three big benefits - for those who might fairly recently have bought a wringer washer they could "upgrade" to a twin tub at modest cost without writing off the cost of the washer, which they might still be paying for. It also added a sales strand to sell more Hoover spin dryers - economies of scale. And of course, even if you did not have a Hoover washer, if you bought the spinner to supplement another brand of washer that you already had then, chances were, when that washer
needed replaced, it would be a Hoover to replace it, to match the spin dryer.

If you were someone who did not care for Hire Purchase (buying on time) you could buy whichever part of your washer you wanted help with sooner knowing that you could get the matching unit when you had saved enough for it - so you could get a quality name (Hoover) rather than being tempted to get a cheap and nasty machine for a good deal less. This combo was also significantly cheaper than the Hoovermatic, although it was a bit simpler too.

It was also sold as the machine you could divide. Hoover always marketed their machines on the basis of their compact size in the typically small British kitchen - if there was not room for one larger machine in one space you could split it up to store in two smaller spaces.

Al

 

[norwichchap]

Hoover Twosome

Hi All,

Thanks Vacbear58 for your tips and advice, I shall take it all on board and get some of the S of a G for the pipes.

I have ordered a few new bits; managed to find an outlet hose and a pump tyre for the single tub, a new outlet hose for the Spinarinse and a spin mat too.

I have an electrical PAT tested where I work and will run them through that before I plug them in and also get an RCD to be on the safe side. I plan to give them a good service and check up before using them as I don't want a flood or blow myself up! I'm preparing to lose a few knuckles in the process too having had a HMDL T5090 a few years back that kept me occupied but one thing that never went on it was the pump!

I'll let you know how I get on with it all

Regards

Ed

 

[kenmore58]

Ed,

 

Let me know what the availability is for the pump tyre.  My Hoover desperately needs one and they are no where to be found in the States. 

 

Ron

 

 

[norwichchap]

Pump Tyre

Hi Ron,

Mine was a fluke of a find I think haha but here's the link;

http://www.yourspares.co.uk/parts/ys76342/pump-tyre-wash-09009713.aspx

Hope it helps

Regards

Ed

Pump Tyre Wash HVR09009713 by Hoover

Buy Pump Tyre Wash. Price match guarantee. Next day UK delivery. Genuine spare part suitable for selected Hoover appliances.

www.yourspares.co.uk

 

[dryclean1]

Love that Hoover!!!

congrats on that beauty!!! I have a 510 that has my sweat and blood running it. Its my favorite machine!!! Love that twosome!!! thanks Bill

 

[keymatic]

Hi Ed,

Nice set - with a little of TLC they will clean up lovely !! I have to say those "Pump tyres" have rocketed in price, they use to be a few quid.

Good luck with the project
Cheers
Keith

 

[decomirror]

Pump tyres

You can still get them at different prices if you shop around. As low as about £6 The hard bit to get is the full pump or the pulley if you break it

Alex

 

[matchboxpaul]

Hi Ed.
Welcome to the club and congrats on your newly acquired Twosome. Both machines look to be in nice and tidy external condition

Best of luck with the restorations.

Paul

 

[hoovermatic]

Stoopid question but......................

.....................why did they not design the two units to fit together like a twin tub, washer on the left and spinner on the right in the traditional fashion?

 

[vacbear58]

Spinner

Because the earlier spinarinse has the lid hinged on the left with the link to the switch at the back of the machine where the drain hose is, on the HM this link went to the front of the machine. This was always going to be a compromise - in later Spinarinses the lid is hinged on the right, but then you have to haul the clothes over the washer drain hose to get to the spinner - although by that time the Twosome was nearing the end of its run

Al

 

[norwichchap]

Got them!

Went and collected the machines today and for the age they look to have been dry stored and very well looked after during their working lives.

Single tub is a 1321A, all the pullies turn but the pump is a bit rattly which i think is limescale. It needs a new top outlet hose which I have ordered and a pump tyre (also ordered) and a bloody good dust out and clean up. Cabinet is in very good condition. It does need 2 new gaskets that fit underneath the outlet pipe holders on eother side of the tub as they have perished but I'll have about as much luck trying to find those as seeing Olly Murs in the buff!

Spinarinse is a 3004A, generally looks OK, all the pullies turn but needs a new pump belt (ordered) outlet hose (ordered) and a good clean out. Tipped it upside down and loads of limescale fell out so I'll clean that out properly. The original telescopic outlet arm has snapped at the juntion with the riser pipe but I have some solvent weld and will see if it holds, would be good to get that working again in place of the hook type hose that's been fitted.

I'll clean them up and go from there, looking forward to it, I need a project.

Have a good weekend lads

 

[norwichchap]

So.....

Well, they both work! The single tub is superb, had to do nothing else to it apart from replace the outlet hose and pump tyre. It heats, washes and pumps brilliantly.

The spinarinse however needs more tlc. I've replaced all the hoses and it spins and pumps very well. However the outer spin can leaks like a colander! Fill it with 2 much water and it just poor out of the bottom. It also leaks around the resilient bearing where the shaft joins the rubber mount in the base of the can. I'm going to have to strip it down, spin can out, rubberise paint the inside of the tub and hopefully solve the bearing leak at the same time. The mount itself doesn't look perished and it isn't leaking from there which is good.

If any of you more experienced chaps have any advice on this and how to fix the leakage, I'd be very grateful.

Happy Easter everyone!

 

[launderess]

Pre-Twosome

Hoover promoted their small washer with a mangle as the solution for a wash day in small UK kitchens.