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I've seen the old Hoover Vision (with the tilted drum) on display, in a department store. Quite a stylish machine; pity the same cannot be said of the build quality. The outer shell was dented (thin metal) and a few of the 'touch' option buttons had lost their LED's.

Apparently those machines were built in Italy, in the Zerowatt factory, so they weren't British by any means: they based the design on the style of the Hoover Keymatic.
 
Rolls-Rapide i was abit confused about your findings of the original Hoover vision. It is indeed Italian made but mine is as solid as my miele was cabinet wise. Thick steel and even a steel lid and all bolted on with steel bars and proper bolts. it has foam insulation on all inside panels including the rear access panel, foam cushioning between the lid and panels and even the underside is mainly enclosed ,Its beautifully laid out inside with careful routing of the wiring and attention to detail and design is obvious. I find it a superb piece of engineering and only wish more washers were built like this one instead of flimsy panels of steel and plastic lids. Was there more than one build i wonder?
steve
 
No, I think only one factory made them. It was probably the riguers of the shop!

I was friendly with the staff until the shop closed. The manager of the electrical department once told me that they had a batch of Bosch washers that had perfect packaging, but when they were unpacked for display purposes, they were found to be damaged.

Appliances may leave the factory in pristine condition, but it is usually the middle-men and shop-floor customers that knock seven bells out of the machines.
 
Things get beaten up quite badly in shops and stockrooms sometimes. I remember having a Siemens dishwasher delivered with a cracked display and serious damage to the internal components.

Siemens replaced it very promptly and the service guy who came out suspected it had been dropped (in its box) from a height. i.e. perhaps fell off a forklift truck in a warehouse somewhere.

The distribution of those machines is often outside the control of the manufactueres. Some of those delivery drivers can be very rough.

It's weird though in Ireland if you order a miele appliance, a miele van still comes up to your house to deliver it.
 
Thank for all the msg's

yeah, i'm real happy with it. one thing I was a little concerned about before I got it was all the talk about modern machines having over sensitive load balancing systems on them.

I haven't yet had a problem with it not being able to balance itself out in a short amount of time. occasionally it will reduce the spin speed on the interim spin because of excessive foam or unbalanced load.

My Vision is standing alone not surrounded by cabnits and is sitting on a floating floorboards and I still find it quiet, I was tempted by the invertor motor, but I do like the sound of a machine spinning, so decided to go with the brush motor. i'd normally go for the top spin speed as well, but was offered a great deal on the 1400 and I am so impressed with the dryness of clothes that are coming out. I can dry a good load of cottons (altho prolly not a full 8kg) in about 35 mins now compared to near 75 or so that came out of the bosch.

As for the Hydro dryer - I beleive the only difference is that they have added a pump and waste water hose so you can plumb the dryer in and not bother having to empty the condenser tank.
 
We've a crappy whirlpool in the apartment I rent. It's a brand new low end washer dryer and if you put in say, a single pair of jeans or even a wool item it won't spin!

You have to add towels and put it back on the spin cycle.

It's a complete joke of a machine. Wouldn't ever buy a whirlpool having used. Utter pile of ---
 
Bosch versus Hoover...

One thing that bugs me something rotten, is that Bosch (and Siemens) machines have a limited spin-alone speed restriction. My mother's machine spins at 1400rpm within the cottons cycles, but the separate spin programme is limited to 1200rpm! So if a load of towels failed to reach the top speed due to out-of-balance sensors switching in, the separate spin programme will not be as efficient as the equivalent on a Hoover.

I want total control!

Does a Miele 1800rpm machine allow you to select an 1800rpm spin-alone programme?
 
To get a seperate fast spin on our Bosch, you could trick it by starting the spin cycle, but as soon as it started draining, turn the dial to a cottons cycle then press start again. It would then do a seperate fast spin.

The Drain/Spin cycle on Miele's is the same as the spin cycle on the cottons - i.e. it runs at the machines maximum speed.

Jon
 

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