Hoovermatic Deluxe 3314L Restoration Complete

[electron1100]

Fault Finding

Hello James

Just a thought, before you go taking out the motor, can you just disconnect the motor (remove the two wires going to it) and see if when you close the lid it still throws the trip, if it does then your problem is not with the motor but with the wiring or a switch in the spinner circuit

Obviously if doesnt throw trip then you might well have a short somewhere on the motor

Gary

 

[matchboxpaul]

Congrats James on a very nice respray.

The colour and finish look good to me - I would be very happy with it.

Hope that you get the small issues sorted and have fun with the machine.

Regards
paul
p.s just dawned on me - though I dont have the 3314L instruction manual, I think I do have the 3312L instruction manual!
When I get chance, I will send/post a copy of it for you.

 

[supermaticjames]

Thanks for the replies...

I took out the motor and it's a little dirty. The following pictures will help you determine the condition but I think it's ok. I'll check the wiring tomorrow.

James.

 

[supermaticjames]

Motor

Motor

 

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Motor

Motor

 

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Motor

Motor

 

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Motor

Motor

 

[supermaticjames]

RE; 3312L Manual

Hi Paul,

If you have it then it would be great to have a copy as it is better than nothing and they virtually identical.

James.

 

[supermaticjames]

I'm very worried!

I tried it without the motor connected and nothing tripped then plugged it back in again and it tripped! I hope the pictures are a help? I just don't get it TBH because it was all well until this. There are no rubbing sounds when I rotate it. Would it be possible that the suppressor is gone?

A sorrowful James.

 

[cfz2882]

brusholders

could check the brusholders to see if one has grounded out,also the field
coils-if the armature is grounded you will get a lot of arcing at the
commutator.It was mentioned in a post above that the motor is rubber mounted,
so if not grounded to washer frame,brusholders could be both grounded and
conducting across to each other.Could be the suppressor too-an ohmeter or
even a battery powered test light should pin down the problem.

 

[supermaticjames]

I don't know what to do now...

Will I go ahead and find a new motor or is there anything I can do at this stage?

James.

 

[launderess]

Hello Luv!

According to my Hoover Service and Parts manual:

For twin tub washin gmachine models covered:

MACHINE BLOWS FUSES:

Possible Cause:
Plug Outlet - Make sure the fuse or breaker box amphere rating is sufficient to handle total current drawn by all applications on the line.

Terminal Block - Check the cord wires on the terminal block to make sure the hot wires are not contacting each other thus creating a short.

Machine Wired Incorrectly - Check wriring diagram against actual wiring on the machine to make sure the machine is wired correctly. At this time you can also check for a possible bare wire that might be causing this trouble.

 

[supermaticjames]

FIXED!!!

Turns out it was the suppressor all along! Bypassed it temporarily and everything is super. Time to retake the Maiden Wash tomorrow

James.

 

[washerlover]

Hooray for James, the super-detective! You are much further along with the mechanics of these things than I was at your age! Great work and can't wait to see the maiden wash.

 

[akronman]

Good Work

It's great when you solve the puzzle, congratulations.
NOW, get us some pics of the Maiden Wash, we're waiting!

 

[macboy91si]

Hoover Pump and Congrats

 

Yes James, I've been enjoying your posts quite the bit since you've tackled this machine. Sorry it has taken me so long to respond to the thread, I have not been around a whole lot. I envy you a bit as I wish we had the 3314L over here on our side of the pond, it's a perfect machine in many ways.

 

To address your question about the pump out time, it is a little excessive for your machine, but not terrible considering everything. Your machine is probably sucking a little air from the spinner side due to a brittle or unseated plunger in the pump valve. Also the rubber grommet on top of the pump where the selector rod goes in can suck air and leak water and cause this issue as well. On the US models, we have a pinch valve setup that leaves the spin port open all the time and the draining is 2-3 minutes. The older US models and most all European models, yours included, have a sealed suction setup where only one or the other can feed into the pump at a time with no air. This creates a much more powerful pumping action. Air in the system slows the water movement down considerably.

 

I think the new design for us was intentional as these machines were only used in small houses and apartments where there were no hookups for a full-size. Because of this, people often used the bathroom or other shallow sinks that, if draining the entire washtub into, could be overwhelmed and overflow. The constant air being mixed in from the spinner slowed the water coming out of the drain hose down considerably.

 

Good Luck and enjoy your new Hoover

 

-Tim

 

[hoover3316]

air in water pump

I own a hoovermatic de luxe 3316 which is made in Australia and they have the same pump as the US models with the pinch valve system and it is a pain because it takes a lot longer to empty

what i usually do is open up the valve and let the spinner tub fill up till i see water coming up thru the spin cans holes at the bottom and then i start the spinner and it pumps a bit quicker that way

matt