Hotpoint/Ariston Fault Video
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dave886
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@nrones
i think a slow tumble rinse for cycle such as synthetics is necessary because its prevents creases and gives the garments a longer life span. one thing i do have 1 problem wid my aqualtis when it has a full load my floor vibrates, but in that video the machine looks cramped, i only fill my machine 3/4 and use the wash net to put loose items in such as socks, gloves etc.. when washing a full load of towel i max load the machine 4/4 and i use the longest wash with steam hygiene, and the machine copes well and give high rinse level.
nrones you should be the spokesmen for candy products
i think a slow tumble rinse for cycle such as synthetics is necessary because its prevents creases and gives the garments a longer life span. one thing i do have 1 problem wid my aqualtis when it has a full load my floor vibrates, but in that video the machine looks cramped, i only fill my machine 3/4 and use the wash net to put loose items in such as socks, gloves etc.. when washing a full load of towel i max load the machine 4/4 and i use the longest wash with steam hygiene, and the machine copes well and give high rinse level.
nrones you should be the spokesmen for candy products
haxisfan
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@ nrones: more feedback!
I used to be so angry with the Indesit for most of the reasons you've pointed out about the Aqualtis range... but I've come to terms with it now (I gave it to my mum XD... only joking) and I understand that not all models are the same. Still, I'm glad I came across your comment on this so I can compare my experience having had very similar feelings as you on this matter. Having said that, I realize that if we are particularly fussy about the way a washing machine carrys out the wash cycle we should probably research it as much as possible before buying one.
Yet... you can't deny how cool the Aqualtis looks though
Following the order of the points you listed above... I've taken the liberty to address each one of them basing my answers on my own experience with a similar machine:
1. Why is wash time reduced with temperature being reduced...
Answer: perhaps the idea is that if the user drops the temperature, they probably have a less soiled load to wash hence shorter washing time, however, I'm sure there are some models out there where you can combine a 'super wash' option with a lower temperature to give you a longer wash cycle... and now having introduced the new ECO cycles they've just done that: maintained the main wash duration even with a low temperature;
2. ...wash and rinse time (and spin) aren't proportional as they should be... ...1h15m cotton 40 wash with quick has 30 minute mainwash in which 15 minutes are slow tumbles, so my clothes for a 1h15m wash get only 15 minutes of decent tumbling...
Answer: this is just the way it's programmed, consider this as being a short 'main wash' cycle (perhaps ideal for colour run items). If the user wishes to have a longer main wash on a cotton 40 type programme a 60 colourfast cycle should be selected instead dropping the temperature to 40 degrees. About the fact that different areas of the cycle don't seem proportional, well, I feel the same way but remember that all people want in the end is to take out clean laundry when the cycle has finished and provided that they are not overoaded and they run an appropriate cycle for the load, they usually deliver satisfactory results;
3. Same thing for fast-wash...
Answer: agreed partially depending on what cycle you refer to: this cycle name is utterly misleading for the half an hour programme which is more like some kind of freshen up wash, but there are other quick programmes ranging up to 1 hour which foresee a higher temperature (up to 60 degrees) and a more intensive tumble action (same old problem though... if you drop the temperature the main wash time diminishes);
4. Water level was VERY low... on the mainwash...
Answer: my experience on this aspect differs from yours as all the modern washers I have seen have a low water level main wash... perhaps there was something wrong with your specific model;
5. Rinse +... Machine rinsed like programmed normally 2 high WL rinses, and if you press rinse + it does 3rd exact same rinse
Answer: I never particularly liked their rinse cycle but in my experience it did the job. The 'extra rinse' option would add extra water to rinses no 1 and no 2 as well as adding a 3rd rinse: again... maybe my model was different from yours;
6. FINAL SPIN.. 20minutes (... then 8minutes spin...)...
Answer: it's supposed to represent extra care for the clothes which some users might appreciate, but at least 8 minutes real spin would give acceptable spin drying results... in my model the final spin would faff about for approx 11' of which it was actually spinning for less than 5;
7. This is a point I'm adding: in my experience the most annoying thing I've seen in a great deal of Hotpoint/Ariston/Indesit machines (not all... most) is the way their spin phases are carried out in respect of their balancing system and the lack of adequate suspension which ultimately results in banging, thumping, time consuming balance attempts and unecessary violent shaking eventually detrimental for their own well being.
In conclusion, maybe be we just got very lucky with Candy appliances (everytime for me) and not lucky enough with Hotpoint/Ariston/Indesit (everytime again unfortunately)... well, everything is possible; after all they're both one of the same kind (in terms of market placement).
Bye
I used to be so angry with the Indesit for most of the reasons you've pointed out about the Aqualtis range... but I've come to terms with it now (I gave it to my mum XD... only joking) and I understand that not all models are the same. Still, I'm glad I came across your comment on this so I can compare my experience having had very similar feelings as you on this matter. Having said that, I realize that if we are particularly fussy about the way a washing machine carrys out the wash cycle we should probably research it as much as possible before buying one.
Yet... you can't deny how cool the Aqualtis looks though
Following the order of the points you listed above... I've taken the liberty to address each one of them basing my answers on my own experience with a similar machine:
1. Why is wash time reduced with temperature being reduced...
Answer: perhaps the idea is that if the user drops the temperature, they probably have a less soiled load to wash hence shorter washing time, however, I'm sure there are some models out there where you can combine a 'super wash' option with a lower temperature to give you a longer wash cycle... and now having introduced the new ECO cycles they've just done that: maintained the main wash duration even with a low temperature;
2. ...wash and rinse time (and spin) aren't proportional as they should be... ...1h15m cotton 40 wash with quick has 30 minute mainwash in which 15 minutes are slow tumbles, so my clothes for a 1h15m wash get only 15 minutes of decent tumbling...
Answer: this is just the way it's programmed, consider this as being a short 'main wash' cycle (perhaps ideal for colour run items). If the user wishes to have a longer main wash on a cotton 40 type programme a 60 colourfast cycle should be selected instead dropping the temperature to 40 degrees. About the fact that different areas of the cycle don't seem proportional, well, I feel the same way but remember that all people want in the end is to take out clean laundry when the cycle has finished and provided that they are not overoaded and they run an appropriate cycle for the load, they usually deliver satisfactory results;
3. Same thing for fast-wash...
Answer: agreed partially depending on what cycle you refer to: this cycle name is utterly misleading for the half an hour programme which is more like some kind of freshen up wash, but there are other quick programmes ranging up to 1 hour which foresee a higher temperature (up to 60 degrees) and a more intensive tumble action (same old problem though... if you drop the temperature the main wash time diminishes);
4. Water level was VERY low... on the mainwash...
Answer: my experience on this aspect differs from yours as all the modern washers I have seen have a low water level main wash... perhaps there was something wrong with your specific model;
5. Rinse +... Machine rinsed like programmed normally 2 high WL rinses, and if you press rinse + it does 3rd exact same rinse
Answer: I never particularly liked their rinse cycle but in my experience it did the job. The 'extra rinse' option would add extra water to rinses no 1 and no 2 as well as adding a 3rd rinse: again... maybe my model was different from yours;
6. FINAL SPIN.. 20minutes (... then 8minutes spin...)...
Answer: it's supposed to represent extra care for the clothes which some users might appreciate, but at least 8 minutes real spin would give acceptable spin drying results... in my model the final spin would faff about for approx 11' of which it was actually spinning for less than 5;
7. This is a point I'm adding: in my experience the most annoying thing I've seen in a great deal of Hotpoint/Ariston/Indesit machines (not all... most) is the way their spin phases are carried out in respect of their balancing system and the lack of adequate suspension which ultimately results in banging, thumping, time consuming balance attempts and unecessary violent shaking eventually detrimental for their own well being.
In conclusion, maybe be we just got very lucky with Candy appliances (everytime for me) and not lucky enough with Hotpoint/Ariston/Indesit (everytime again unfortunately)... well, everything is possible; after all they're both one of the same kind (in terms of market placement).
Bye
