Hotpoint UK Washers & Dryers - 1st Automatic to final New Generation

[matchboxpaul]

Hi Andy

Whenever you get a chance, it really would be great to have a gander at your machines, especially as I have never heard of the 1828/08!

The only versions I knew of being sold in the UK were the 1828/01, 1828/02 and 1828/07, the latter machine being the 1978 final series 4 button Liberator. For there to be the possibility of a 1828/08 fills me with intrigue.
If it is a 1828/08 and all original, I wonder if it was a very final spare parts raid machine?

Likewise with the possibility of a 1701/23! The only ones I knew of being sold in the UK were the early and late version of 1701/01 and the 1701/21, again the latter being the 1978 final series Liberator.

You really have got my interest in your machines.

Fantastic that your repairmen mates still see them occasionally. You have told them that, should they have to write one off, to let you know, havent you?
In this day and age and with them being sooooo very rare, it really would be a tragedy for any to be given to the council for reprocessing.

Paul

 

[matchboxpaul]

You mentioned the 'Down Under' export machines.
I have only ever seen a photograph of one of the exported dryers, but never one of the washing machines. Methinks they are probably just as rare over there, as our versions are over here.

Of the dryers, I have noted the following versions:

1701/01 Hotpoint LIBERATOR DRYER (UK)
1701/02 QUELLE (France)
1701/04 English Electric
1701/13 GEC (Australia)
1701/14 QUELLE (France)
1701/15 Morphy Richards World
1701/16 Morphy Richards
1701/17 GALA (Ireland)
1701/18 English Electric (Norway & Sweden)
1701/19 Hotpoint Export
1701/20 Hotpoint Export
&
1701/21 Hotpoint LIBERATOR DRYER DE LUXE (UK)

 

[hotpointfan]

Hi Paul

I know this will probably get answered later on, but methinks there was a grey 95 series era machine badged as an English Electric, or it could have been Morphy Richards? Rocker switches come to mind as well as one surfaced on eBay a few months back!

Scouring everywhere for a 95 series/Liberator Hotpoint, all these photos are making me want one! But, even if one surfaced and I managed to get it, storage would be a problem as the garage has started leaking!

Learnt some fascinating stuff so far, and theres 20 more years to go yet!

Best Wishes

hotpointfan

 

[matchboxpaul]

1828

Of the 1828's, I know of the following versions:

1828/01 LIBERATOR DE LUXE (UK)
1828/02 LIBERATOR DE LUXE (UK)
1828/03 Morphy Richards
1828/04 GALA (Ireland)
1828/05 Hotpoint Export
&
1828/06 GEC Australia

Hi Andy

Re your Servicing manuals - if you have the time, patience and inclination, then it would be SUPERB if you were able to scan them to a good size and port them in a thread. They make fantastic reference resources and also generally contain some good historical data, such as the introduction dates, names and detail differences.

The posting of your 1600/1830 service manual really should be on a thread of its own. These two machines are the fabled machines in the Hotpoint line up - so very significant a part of their history, but yet forgotten by their manufacturer and not seen by an enthusiast for decades.
The Greek machine really was a case of so near and yet so far. It would have been wonderful were it to have been reimported - was very galling!

On the understanding that it may be a while before you are able to get round to detailing your own matching set, I will finish the Liberator set tonight. With your machines being possibly unusual versions, maybe they too shuld hafe a thread to themselves as well?

Paul

 

[andyvivo]

Hi Paul,
Have re scrutinized the labels, and my memory is obv in need of wd40.

1828/02 and 1701/21 are the corrected codes.

I do have another liberator dryer which is older with the metal door and plain facia, never got round to refurbishing this one. The door seal has disintegrated, possibly an earth fault too. If I thought there was a demand I would restire to working condition and eBay
A couple of years back I did give my friend another liberator dryer I had, afaik it still goes on strong

There is probably more super electronics around than liberators in use now, however if one did come up for rehoming I would not have anywhere for it to go, or the time to dedicate.

Andy

 

[matchboxpaul]

Hi Jacob.

Yep - you are right with the English Electric 95's. There were two washers and and two dryers and I will definitely be covering them later in this thread. Watch this space!

Paul

 

[andyvivo]

Jacob you are right in the EE badged 95's with grey facia

 

[matchboxpaul]

HI Andy.

ahhhh - 1828/02 and 1701/21 make more sense, though I have read elsewhere of a 1701/23. Appears that Hotpoint were making obscure export versions all over the place

With that enamel inner drum, it certainly does sound like an unusual 1828/02.

Paul

 

[andyvivo]

And also the rocker switches on the EE from the original 95*** series

 

[matchboxpaul]

1978 and the final series of Liberators

Finally Hotpoint developed a range of Liberator machines all derived from their own 1828.

The year 1978 saw the introduction of 2 new version washing machines and 2 new version compact dryers.

The washers received the ITCL codings and the entire range received symbolised fascias...

 

[hotpointfan]

Paul and Andy

Thank you so much for clearing that up!

Love the compilation photo! And I think personally that the Liberator Super De Luxe would have been ahead of its time with the spin control!

Best Wishes

hotpointfan

P.S. Here is a video, from the fantastic Hass, on the machine above.

 

[matchboxpaul]

Model 1824/01

The basic machine came in the form of the model 1824/01 Liberator, which replaced and sat in between the Zanussi derived 1823 and 1826 models.

Equipped with an economy wash option and a white door surround, the machine was single speed 800rpm and was without any provision for fabric softeners.

Thanks to James for the fascia drawing, which he kindly scanned for me as part of the instruction manual from the 1978 series....

 

[matchboxpaul]

Model 1828/07

This was the final 4 button standard Liberator.

As with the much earlier 1850, 1851 and 1851/03, this version received a simplified fascia, sans any programme details which I assume was back on the piece of removable card.

The world of dual spin had finally arrived and this model offered both 800 and 400 spin speeds.

Again, thanks to James for the fascia drawing scan.

Another detail difference was that the 1978 received a different door style, being chromed plastic with a crimp...

 

[matchboxpaul]

Model 1848/01

Top of the range was the new 1848/01 Liberator Super De Luxe, boasting variable spin from a high of 1000rpm, down to 400rpm.

A strange looking machine, but very smart with it...

 

[matchboxpaul]

Model 1509/10

The top loader also received a slight facelift and, for the first time, was actually called 'LIBERATOR' on its fascia!

Model 1509/10 Liberator Super De Luxe...

 

[matchboxpaul]

Model 1701/21

The dryer was slightly restyled too, with particular emphasis on the dial which now featured a purple band between the time numbers.

The full size machine also became the 'De Luxe' dryer of the range...

 

[matchboxpaul]

Model 1730

The reason for the 'de luxe'-ing of the 1701/21 was because there were new cpmpact offerings to the range.

The Model 1730 Liberator Dryer E was the front venting compact dryer...

 

[matchboxpaul]

Model 1721

The top of the range compact was modl 1721 Liberator Dryer, which offered compact proportions with rear venting...

 

[matchboxpaul]

Model 1721

and here is mine and Rob's preserved example of this model...

 

[matchboxpaul]

The 1978 Best Buys

The new range was introduced in June 1978.

Following these in December 1978 was Hotpoint's first ever discount range - the Best Buys!

These adopted the budget plain white door surround of the Model 1824, along with white fascia sticker and clear door bowls.
As with machines through the 80s and the 90's, the white plastics used on these machines yellowed over the years.

Below is the full size dryer, confusingly called Model 1700 Super Dryer (this definitely wasnt the first Hotpoint dryer)...