Hotpoint / Zanussi Liberator Model 1826 Pictures

[vivalalavatrice]

OMG! It seems incredible like my Grandma's first washer!

Of course! Those beautifull purple/pink chromas seem incredible to me like my Grandma's first washing machine... and it was not a Hotpoint but a Sangiorgio.

My Nanna was one of the first woman in her little town to own a washing machine...it was in the 1968, when she retired from working and felt too tired to go on doing the wash by hand and decided to buy a machine very very like you posted in the pics above! One shining big knob and one or two pink pushbuttons...very very easy to use for her!!! )

Then in the 1992 (yes it lasted so long!!) we gave it away but mom wanted a Sangiorgio again (Sangiorgio TEMA Export 9)... this was even because when she got married in the 1981 she bought a Sangiorgio too like her mother, the same Sangiorgio that is stil working in the basemente and which is the one I grew up with.

I still have saved from crashing that purple lid of Nana's first washing machine...no other parts apart from some remembers...
Lastly I remember it leak awfully from the outer tub and that was why we decided to buy a new one instead of fixing the old.

How many sudsy washing cycle...ah! The bio cycle lasted for ever!!! Hours and hours... and the temp wasvery very high!! sometimes you coul thint it was stil boiling!LOL

BYE!
Diomede

 

[aquarius1984]

1 large shining knob and 1 or 2 pink push buttons? LMAO! Sorry if this hijacks the thread but ROFL !

 

[mattywashboy]

trust you rob...trust you

 

[matchboxpaul]

I mentioned a mystery machine.....

in the 1973 design magazine listings - the model 1830.

Either Hotpoint span them a yarn (wanting to shift some theoretically obsolete models) or the writers got their wires crossed.

Model 1830 was definately not compatible with the Liberator dryer, for it was a second generation retrim of Hotpoints stunning model 1600 (the 1100rpm machine) which, I am sure, would sell for a small fortune if one appeared on ebay today.

Suddenly realising this got me thinking a bit (always a dangerous thing).
I have two colour shots of this style of machine but both look different.

The left hand shot is from the 1972 GEC Appliances brochure, which shows Hotpoint, English Electric and Morphy Richards stuff. The 1600 (and it definately is a 1600) shown here has a purely silver/metallic finish to doors and trim - no doubt about it, it is a 1600.

The second image is the superb shot, I think provided courtesy of Mike (apologies if wrong), which has been on the forum before. This shows a machine with a very light violet/mauve hue to it. I seem to remember others saying they thought it had purpley glass in the door.

The drawing is taken from a 1974 Which magazine and is of an 1830.

Am after opinions here - could the second image actually be a picture of a Liberatorised 1600 and, in actual fact be the 1973 model 1830?
Or is it simply the lighting conditions in the picture playing tricks with the silver door? Not being an avid photographer, I have no idea about such things.

Any ideas?
Cheers
Paul

 

[Bearpeter]

The Electra GL2

We had one of these when I was growing up!!!
First auto in the family!!!!
This had EXACTLY the same programmes of the Hotpoint liberator, picutred and also an old Zanussi. (Check below the URL for more details of the instruction booklet I came across but did only have, according to the manual, 520rpmspin speed. Rinse level half way up the door and the "Dirty shirt" button changed all the synthetic programmes from short wash/ long pause agitation to long wash/short pause.... exaxtly the same as the cottons programmes. It made NO difference to the cottons programmes at all! (i know, I spent most of my weekends watching lol!!!)
Fab machine and loved the programmes!!!
Peter

http://www.serviceforce.co.uk/pdf_results.asp#

 

[rolls_rapide]

"One Shining Big Knob..."

Rob:

Like you, I had visions! LOL

 

[aquarius1984]

Rolls

LOL! And there I was convincing my parents nothing of a sexual nature happens on here with members and their machines, eeek!

 

[carlstock]

Yeah, Matt – “Trust you, Rob… Trust you”! Robert Stubbs! Calm yourself!

;-)

Goodness me, young man! However, I can see your (Hot)point…! hehe

Oh, and hi, Matt – I’ll hopefully see you later! Hi to everyone else, too!

I was quite happily reading through this thread all innocently… and then what happens…?! ;-)

Please, someone, tell me I haven’t said anything smutty in this message!

Lots of very interesting pictures and information here, guys – thank you. I’ve needed to brush up (a pun!) on my Liberator knowledge for quite some time.

Take care.

Regards,

Carl

 

[hoover3060]

Paul

Just noticed on your Hotpoint spreadsheet you have the spin speeds of the 18880 in a red box. I can let you get rid of another red box because my 18880 is a 800/500 spin speed machine.
I can only let you take my word for it as I havn't seen it written anywhere but it definately sounds like and looks like 800 when spinning. It dosen't have that slightly higher pitched sound to the 1000 spin Hotpoints of the time.

Hope that helps

Mark

 

[hoover3060]

Paul

Also forgot to say that the 18880 maybe a "Brown" series but not sure. The fascia surround is brown but it has a silver transfer where the buttons are and also it has a chrome door so I guess not really sure if thats a brown or silver.

Sorry if thats confusing.

Mark

 

[hoover3060]

Oh Blimey sorry for posting 3 times.

Paul

The back plate on the drum has 1981 stamped on it if that helps towards dating the 18880.

Mark

 

[chestermikeuk]

Spins

Keep filling in those sheets, you`re doing a grand job Paul!!!
I wondered about the 1600,was it ever purple or was it a colour tint on the page etc, found this one the other day...Is that Radiant Powder in the sink cupboard??

Mark, what model is your machine?? your machine might be one of the first production models with the 800 rpm spin, it changed later in 1982.

Here are the spin speeds, a little more to add..

18780 Microtronic X2000, 1980, 800 spin,
changed to 1000rpm in 1982

18880 Microtronic X2000, 1982, 1000rpm

18871 Microtronic LE White, 1983, Best Buy Model, 800rpm

18872 Microtronic LE Almond,1984, 800rpm

18873 Microtronic LE (Comet Exclusive)1985, 1000rpm

 

[hoover3060]

Hi Mike

Its an 18880 according to the rating sticker on the back. It definately dosen't look or sound 1000 rpm. I have been wondering though that the rpms on wash seem slightly too slow. Maybe its a problem with the motor and the tacho needs looking at? Would it affect the spin that much? Otherwise im confused.

Mark

 

[hoover3060]

18880

One thing I remembered though is that it is fitted with 3 leg suspension rather than 2. Dosn't seem to have a date code on the rating sticker though as was trying to date it with the information Rob scanned in.

Mark

 

[hoover3060]

Paul

Found a pic of a 18371 for you which a friend of ours got. You have it as "Electronic De Luxe". As you can see it was a "Super Electronic".

Hope its useful info.

Mark

 

[hoover3060]

Paul

Thought you may want these also.

Early Liberator dryer 1701 And the Liberator Dryer E 1730 (Mike has these now so he might be able to give you more info on them if you need it)

Mark

 

[hoover3060]

Liberator Dryer E

 

[hoover3060]

Liberator Dryer E Controls

 

[hoover3060]

Liberator Dryer E Name

 

[matchboxpaul]

How do Guys - have just got back from work and have been looking forward to seeing if this thread has progressed any further - superb that it has.

Mark - cheers for flagging up the 18371. There appears to be a bit of inconsitency within the official stuff, as it describes 18371 as Electronic de luxe. But pictures prove the point and 18371 is now re-christened on the sheet as Super Electronic.
Your excellent Microtronic definately, as far as I am concerned anyway, falls into the silver category running alongside the 18340, 18380 and 18580. If it has a trace of silver on the facia and, more importantly, a silver door then its a silver-un.
Very fond of the 1701 Liberator dryer - my grandma had one and, when it stopped heating, I was given it as a 'toy' with it living in my dads shed (it replaced a Creda 275 that I was given when I was about four years old). My grandma's machine was older than the one you pictured, as hers stated in plain capital letters 'HOTPOINT LIBERATOR DRYER'. That would date hers to 1973/74 when they were first introduced. The Hotpoint script came along when the 1828/02 replced the 1851, in 1976.

Re: the 1731 E - any ideas what the E stands for?

Mike - where on earth did you stumble across that piccy. Its a difficult one isn't it. There is not a hint of viloet/mauve in the new picture, which would make it definately a 1600. That is so long as the 1830 WAS on the recieving end of a violet attack. If the 1830 wasn't then it cold be an 1830!
Arrrrgggghhhhh.

In the absence of a definate '1830 was purple', I would be inclined to say that the new piccy is of a 1600.

Many thanks for the Microtronic info - very useful and many gaps filled in.

Will post some updated screengrabs shortly, so you can see where things are at.

Just before I do that, anyone any idea of the model and title (probably Super Dryer) of the dryer below. Its the only 1979 silver series machine that I have not identified yet. It is from the front cover of a Hotpoint brochure, the cover and a few pages of which can be found on the Hotpoint Yahoo Group.
With a door like that it would have been a direct, rear rather than door vented, replacement for the 1720 'Home and dry' compact from the Liberator era. Anyone own the brochure who could check?

Screengrabs along shortly - seeing as we are talking dryers, I will post that info as well.

Cheers
Paul

 

[matchboxpaul]

Here we go...

page 1.

Missing:

1827 - year of introduction
1850 - options details (look on further pages and you will get an idea of the codes)
1851 - what was different over the 1850
1720 - year of introduction and replacement model (the machine shown in the previous post)
1730 - year of introduction

whilst we are at it...what were the two pull switches on the 1600/1830? One was for the door release any idea of the other.

 

[matchboxpaul]

page 2

I have made a start on the Supermatics!

 

[matchboxpaul]

page 3

The Microtronics are all nice and blue on this page
Cheers guys.

 

[matchboxpaul]

page 4

One definately for Mark here - when you have a mo, could you let me know the options buttons, left to right, on your 18880?
That would delete another red square.

The first red square dryer is the silver machine mentioned a few posts ago.

 

[matchboxpaul]

final page

The Liberatoresque dryers are a bit rocky and no idea of how comprehensive the list is, as its all been done through Which listings and stuff I have stumbled across.

This page gives a clearer view of the codings.

Can I take this opportunity to thank all who have helped me update the sheet recently. I would say that in the space of a weekend the Liberator and Liberatoresque sections are at least 25% more complete and a damn site more accurate.

If nothing else comes of it - absloutely no matter. I am thrilled to have gotten this far and my knowledge of the two series has improved leaps and bounds (I had no idea there were two button purple Liberator washers).

Cheers
Paul
p.s it goes onto New Generation - then I draw a big black line - NO FURTHER!

 

[hoover3060]

Paul

Option buttons on the 18880 are as follows:

It has 3 option buttons on the left which are "Economy" buttons. There is REDUCED RINSES (It does 4 rinses as normal but this cuts it down to 3). ECONOMY LEVEL (This of course is a lower water level). LOWER TEMP (This reduces the temp of the wash but im not sure what to. Im guessing its 40/30 50/40 60/40 85/60 but im not sure).

In the middle are the 4 fascia level push slectors. There is SELECT , START , PREWASH , and CANCEL.

On the right are the 3 "SPECIAL CARE" buttons. They are: SLOW SPIN , BIO POWDER , and RINSE HOLD.

Mark

 

[hoover3060]

Paul

Im not sure what info you have or don't have on Hotpoint machines so im posting some scans ive just done of info I have here that you may find useful.

If you do have the info already at least its here for everyone to read.

Your doing a great job on your spreadsheets! They look great. Well done mate.

Mark

 

[hoover3060]

Its not uploading my scans at present so will have to try again later

Mark

 

[hoover3060]

Sorry guys it wont upload my scans. Will have to mess around with them and see if it will do them then.

Mark

 

[matchboxpaul]

Persevere Mark.

I am on tenter hooks!

Paul