rolls_rapide
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Panasonic front loader
Seems to cope fine. It appears to do a combined static drain and spray fill.
Seems to cope fine. It appears to do a combined static drain and spray fill.
How does your washer handle Sudslocks?
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Miele 2515
Michaels mum uses bodywash on face washers which seem to cause oversuds quite often on her machine.
It'll always spin without stopping at the maximum speed it thinks it can handle, but just keeps adding rinses and spins until the foam is gone. At worst I've counted 4 extra rinses for a total of 7.
Even with all of the extra rinses, I've still never seen the Oversuds light come on.
I'm yet to ever have an oversuds on my W2888
Michaels mum uses bodywash on face washers which seem to cause oversuds quite often on her machine.
It'll always spin without stopping at the maximum speed it thinks it can handle, but just keeps adding rinses and spins until the foam is gone. At worst I've counted 4 extra rinses for a total of 7.
Even with all of the extra rinses, I've still never seen the Oversuds light come on.
I'm yet to ever have an oversuds on my W2888
dustin92
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our Frigidaire gallery is really stupid- it will suds lock after the wash, especially on large heavy loads. it starts to go into the spin, sudslocks, shuts off the pump, then stops the drum, and proceeds normally with the rest of the cycle, regardless of suds level. full drum of suds? ok, so what? you only get 2 rinses! I have washed comforters, and had suds all the way to the top of the drum, and it still only gives the normal cycle- (wash, slow spin, rinse, rinse, optional extra rinse, fast final spin.)
What Dustin Said
Our Affinity is too stupid to even know what a suds-lock is.
Plus, the only way to get any suds to form is to add water manually. Otherwise the small amount of water that splashes up at the window looks like spit.
Our Affinity is too stupid to even know what a suds-lock is.
Plus, the only way to get any suds to form is to add water manually. Otherwise the small amount of water that splashes up at the window looks like spit.
Sometimes towels in the W1918 and W1986 will cause extra suds. If I catch this, I partially pull out the dispenser drawer, insert a hose and add some water to flush away the suds while the pump is on.
hotpoint95622
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hotpoint 95622
Sudslock, one of the biggest headaches I have had to consider greatly when programming my project machine. One thing I found is the if the machine went into distribute from the start of the draining it was a huge problem on the first rinse, I over come this by tumble draining then distributing when the tub was complete empty, then a short sharp spin stop and allow to drain then repeat, with each rinse increase the time of the second spins.
If you can bare the tediousness of this video is shows the first rinse and the small sudslock.
Sudslock, one of the biggest headaches I have had to consider greatly when programming my project machine. One thing I found is the if the machine went into distribute from the start of the draining it was a huge problem on the first rinse, I over come this by tumble draining then distributing when the tub was complete empty, then a short sharp spin stop and allow to drain then repeat, with each rinse increase the time of the second spins.
If you can bare the tediousness of this video is shows the first rinse and the small sudslock.
hooverkeymatic
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Great responses guys! Keep them coming! 
hoover1100
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lol, MIke
You'll notice I'm holding them at arms length, don't want it too close to my person!
You'll notice I'm holding them at arms length, don't want it too close to my person!
ronhic
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One could argue.....
....that you're almost clutching the powder to your chest
....that you're almost clutching the powder to your chest
ronhic
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I agree....
....with Logix.
Our Zanussi made Westinghouse follows the 3 tumble, spin routine, but you have to be quite heavy handed to make it suds lock at all....though it does tend to do it more with 'quick wash' engaged than a normal cycle. This is due to more water being let in without draining at the 32-34 'minutes remaining' mark which, along with standard agitation, tends to make more foam.
....with Logix.
Our Zanussi made Westinghouse follows the 3 tumble, spin routine, but you have to be quite heavy handed to make it suds lock at all....though it does tend to do it more with 'quick wash' engaged than a normal cycle. This is due to more water being let in without draining at the 32-34 'minutes remaining' mark which, along with standard agitation, tends to make more foam.
laundromat
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My Affinity will continue through the wash cycle and the suds will overflow automatically into the drain hose. When it goes into the first spin, it will stop for a few minutes,the pump restarts and it goes into the spin mode.My last Frigidaire front loader would bellow suds all through the dispenser try and it would cause a mess on the machine and my floor.
dave886
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sudlocking
one day i did a full load of towels in Aqualtis, (2009version) at the end of the first cycle the machine was half full with suds, on the first spin cycle it spun which the suds come down on the washer door, then immediately stop; it seemed that it had sense suds in the drum which made the machine behave differently by it doing slow tumbles, the pump was continuously draining, then it would go into distribute the laundry did this 3times until the suds disappear, i have to admit the Aqualtis washers does not take crap its a very fussy machine but a top washer!
one day i did a full load of towels in Aqualtis, (2009version) at the end of the first cycle the machine was half full with suds, on the first spin cycle it spun which the suds come down on the washer door, then immediately stop; it seemed that it had sense suds in the drum which made the machine behave differently by it doing slow tumbles, the pump was continuously draining, then it would go into distribute the laundry did this 3times until the suds disappear, i have to admit the Aqualtis washers does not take crap its a very fussy machine but a top washer!
northernmary
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Miele Premier 500
this is my machine handling a suds lock with one daz tablet
NorthernMary
this is my machine handling a suds lock with one daz tablet
NorthernMary
virabhadrasana
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Siemens 9 y.o.
My Siemens Siwamat XLS 1260 (bought in 2001)ramps up gently after distibution and I don't get sudslocks unless the load is very heavy. In that case, she just stops the spin and adds a rinse with a slightly higher water level. If she sudslocks again at the next intermediate spin, she stops the spin but she won't add an extra rinse again. Maybe more recent Siemens/Bosch work differently.
I like the way Miele handle sudslocks reducing spin speed or stpping the spin for a while in order to reduce suds!
My Siemens Siwamat XLS 1260 (bought in 2001)ramps up gently after distibution and I don't get sudslocks unless the load is very heavy. In that case, she just stops the spin and adds a rinse with a slightly higher water level. If she sudslocks again at the next intermediate spin, she stops the spin but she won't add an extra rinse again. Maybe more recent Siemens/Bosch work differently.
I like the way Miele handle sudslocks reducing spin speed or stpping the spin for a while in order to reduce suds!
My Miele W 435 normally handles them brilliantly, it slows down and then accelerates very carfully and slowly again.
But sometimes when doing a smallish load, it just ignores the sudslock and behaves like in Northernmary`s video. I find that very frustrating, considering the price I paid for it.
However I found out that when it is tilted a bit backwards things are going much better than with a perfectly leveled machine.
But sometimes when doing a smallish load, it just ignores the sudslock and behaves like in Northernmary`s video. I find that very frustrating, considering the price I paid for it.
However I found out that when it is tilted a bit backwards things are going much better than with a perfectly leveled machine.
richardc1983
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Sorry to rejuvenate an old thread... but this is probably the problem im having on my maytag...
http://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?55648_0 It will abort the cycle after trying to spin 3 times during the rinse stages as a "check water outlet"
http://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?55648_0 It will abort the cycle after trying to spin 3 times during the rinse stages as a "check water outlet"
depends on the manufacturing decade
My older Lavamat (1960s water hog) will do nothing but stubbornly follow the mechanical cycle sequence (which is no problem at all since the only programme overrides are an overheated motor or a clogged drain filter: The thermo cut out will pop and the machine keeps doing its job without spins)
In all other less severe cases it will slam the load into full speed while pumping out like hell, normally that does the job.
My newer Atlant will stop spinning, keep pumping for at least one or two extra minutes (to give the foam some time to settle), then it resumes spinning on a lower speed and with an altered ramp-up phase (200 instead of 400 rpm on the first rinse). That usually does it.
Only once I could observe it increase the rinse water level in addition by one more step while sticking to lower spin speeds.
If that does not work, it will drop all spin speeds until (worst case) no spin at all (which is described in the manual, all along with a detailed explanation why correct detergent dosing means correct washing results)
Dropping spins entirely has never happened to me so far.
My older Lavamat (1960s water hog) will do nothing but stubbornly follow the mechanical cycle sequence (which is no problem at all since the only programme overrides are an overheated motor or a clogged drain filter: The thermo cut out will pop and the machine keeps doing its job without spins)
In all other less severe cases it will slam the load into full speed while pumping out like hell, normally that does the job.
My newer Atlant will stop spinning, keep pumping for at least one or two extra minutes (to give the foam some time to settle), then it resumes spinning on a lower speed and with an altered ramp-up phase (200 instead of 400 rpm on the first rinse). That usually does it.
Only once I could observe it increase the rinse water level in addition by one more step while sticking to lower spin speeds.
If that does not work, it will drop all spin speeds until (worst case) no spin at all (which is described in the manual, all along with a detailed explanation why correct detergent dosing means correct washing results)
Dropping spins entirely has never happened to me so far.
robliverpool
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Mine pauses fills a bit. Empties 're fills a bit empties then spins. Best thing for a sudslock is half a cap of fabric softener. In a. Jug. Of water straight into the dispenser
electron1100
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Tesco
This is a bit ironic as I was taking the piss out of Tesco powder back then, but nearly two years ago Mat (Cardiff) recommended Tesco powder as being a good cleaner but also having very low suds, I had found that waitrose powder had the same qualities.
It took me a long time to actually buy some Tesco powder, as I had always used Persil/Daz/Ariel all of which cleaned well but produced too many suds in all my machines.
Once I tried it out and found that its cleaning power is as good as the expensive powders and also no suds lock on towels or anything I haven't looked back it is now nearly two years down the line, and whilst my washing powder collection is dull as there are only two types of powder there Tesco Bio/colour they are all I need.
I forgot to say about Robs tip using fabric conditioner helps, Mike told me this aswell and indeed it does help with sudsy powders
This is a bit ironic as I was taking the piss out of Tesco powder back then, but nearly two years ago Mat (Cardiff) recommended Tesco powder as being a good cleaner but also having very low suds, I had found that waitrose powder had the same qualities.
It took me a long time to actually buy some Tesco powder, as I had always used Persil/Daz/Ariel all of which cleaned well but produced too many suds in all my machines.
Once I tried it out and found that its cleaning power is as good as the expensive powders and also no suds lock on towels or anything I haven't looked back it is now nearly two years down the line, and whilst my washing powder collection is dull as there are only two types of powder there Tesco Bio/colour they are all I need.
I forgot to say about Robs tip using fabric conditioner helps, Mike told me this aswell and indeed it does help with sudsy powders
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