How often do you use the self clean function on your oven?

[donprohel]

Reply #36 - The downfalls of tech...

Well, Chetlaham, what you are showing is not the downfalls of tech, but the downfalls of poor quality.

Because yes, there are good switches that last a lifetime, but unfortunately they are not the cheapest.

Then, if what you mean is that "tech" is often used by manufacturer to hide poor quality (and often even worse engineering) that is another matter

 

[Chetlaham]

Right. Though the way I feel is that the money spent on the door latch to make for a self cleaning oven could have been used for a more durable membrane. I see the price of appliances bumped up by hundreds of dollars for features without anything being allocated to durability.

Further peeve of mine of how 1) all these control boards, escutcheons, HMIs and touch controls become unavailable after 10 years. 2) Cost half or as much as the new machine.

Where as through standardization a stove can be kept running for for decades at pennies on the dollar:

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Universa...MIpbO59_C0gwMVb87ICh3jzAcVEAQYAiABEgJER_D_BwE

I believe simplicity allows for the creation of low cost (by economy of scale) universal replacement parts where any appliance can be repaired by the average person. Replacement parts of lower quality are less sought after while reputable replacement parts are purchased more often creating a market for precision long lasting parts with competition keeping cost reasonable for the quality sold.

 

[combo52]

LG refrigerator compressor failures

LG has had a horrible problem with this for almost a decade even though they claim a 10 year warranty. It only covers the part leaving the customer with a very expensive repair.

To their credit I do know a lot of people that have gotten the entire repair done for free, but given the problem they’ve had they need to give at least a 20 year or lifetime parts and labor warranty on the sealed system because they have been so slow to solve this problem. Hopefully the lawsuit will shake them up a little bit.

I only see a handful of compressor failures in GE whirlpool and Frigidaire refrigerators in a years time, in general compressors are extremely reliable, one of the most reliable parts of a refrigerator today.

The other really big problem however, with refrigerators is leaks in the paper, thin aluminum evaporators, I wish the government would come in and require at least a 10 year sealed system warranty on all refrigerators that cost over $250 or something.

John

 

[qsd-dan]

not the downfalls of tech, but the downfalls of poor quality

Unfortunately, modern tech and poor quality go hand in hand in these modern times. No manufacture gives a shit about anything today except quarterly profits.

 

[maytag85]

What Dan stated above ^^^^^^^^. Don’t mind modern tech but if it’s going to break down sooner than necessary and causes lots of headache, not worth it. This is one of the many reasons why I love old dryers with v-belts for example, they will just continue to run and run forever. If the main drive belt stretches, can adjust the tension tighter so it’ll work like new again. While a serpentine belt around the drum works fine, manufacturers purposely change part numbers from time to time to make the consumer think the part is NLA when it’s still available but with a different part number if that makes sense. Reason why they put a belt around the drum, is it has to do with the thing we all despise on this site, Planned Obsolescence.

 

[combo52]

Hi Sean, I guess this thread is talking about dryers now, lol.

Putting the belt around the drum clothes dryer was the best thing that ever happened to residential clothes dryers. It made them vastly more reliable, longer lived and easier to repair.

I don’t know of a single dryer built with the belt going around the drum where the belt is NLA you’re just making stuff up.

 

[DADoES]

 
WP 341241 has been a valid dryer belt number for 50+ years.

 

[maytag85]

Was just using that as a example.

 

[norgeway]

I clean

My GE about twice a year, it works great, when thru i do windex the inside to clean off the ash/residue and it sparkles like new.

 

[electro]

Never use the self cleaning function. I have a range that I really like and they no longer even make the double oven 40 inch size. Like others have stated, I have learned what needs to be be covered. This range has an usually tall ,angled backsplasher panel, so the controls are far away from the heat of the ovens.