How Washington, DC Ruined Your Washing Machine

[powerfin64]

Hot water and delicate or hand wash for a stain?

Pierre, your completely missing the point of this thread.

 

[launderess]

Hot Water & "Hand Wash" or "Delicate" For St

Am going out on a limb to guess the man meant using hot or even boiling water washes in a front loader with minimal drum movement, but high water levels.

My Miele will do near to 200F (not sure what the temp cut off is), on both permanent press and delicate cycles.

There are times such as when trying to whiten/brighten and or remove stubborn stains using oxygen bleach that one will require hot/uber-hot water, but you also want the delicate action of minimal tumbling and high water levels. The high water level serves two functions, it gives items room to move about thus cushioning the wash action even further. Also for the case of pure linen which absorbs lots of water you want them to have it.

The whole process is rather like a soaking items clean. Indeed the only difference between the extened pre-wash and delicate cycles on my Miele are the water levels, max temp allowed, and that one (delicate) will continue onto the rinses versus simply stopping after cycle is complete.

 

[hoover1100]

Everything in that article

Is an absolute load of B.S. and is clearly written by a ranting right wing idiot who has no grasp on washing machine technology whatsoever.

I've dealt with some pretty disgusting clothes in my time, and NEVER, has my modern, low water usage, energy efficient front loading machine NOT got them clean!

The only people who have any of the problems addressed are those who have no clue how to use a washing machine, and have no intention of trying to find out how to.

Some people seriously need to get their heads around the fact that the Government is not forcing anyone to do anything, simply offering incentives for people and businesses to be more conscious of the environment. (as they need to if we are going to get anywhere near solving this problem)

Laundromat machines (top or front loading) don't get clothes clean, because they are desgined to maximise profit for the owner, whereas domestic machines maximise performance, since the owner is not making a profit by using it.

The comments above about the 'fact' clothes needing to be immersed in water and agitated to come clean did make me laugh, also, if clothing needs to be washed on the delicate cycle, I highly doubt it would be able to withstand hot water anyway!

All in all, absolute nonsense!

Matt

 

[3beltwesty]

Matt;

The design of washers here in the USA is steered to grab that tax 225 buck plus credit.

If you think this market distortion is so swell an idea; how come Europe does not follow this great idea?

Heck; it would only take some software tweaks to ruin your washers good performance!

If Europe is really serious, then vote in giant tax breaks on products that meet thrifty water goals. If some washers then wash not as good; then blame the user and not the detuned washer.

Laundromats here often wash well; but the machines use more water since many are not under the same tax break distortion for home washer sales.

Laundromat machines here are often higher performance than a home machine; they do not screw around wasting time like a modern FL home machine does. This is because design criteria for a home machine is to grab that tax credit; the design criteria of a laundromat machine is to wash well in a timely basis.

 

[mark_wpduet]

As long as any FL washer is AS good as my 2005 Duet, I'll be happy. The thing that concerns me is when the Duet goes, they may use no water at all.

 

[hoover1100]

Heck; it would only take some software tweaks to ruin your

It appears to me that your new, modern, energy efficient machines in the U.S. wash as well, if not better than older machines, just like here. It's only when they aren't used correctly that they don't perform to their full potential.

Our machines use the same amount of (more than likely less) water and energy than your new front loaders do.

That's why the vast majority of people on here in the U.S. who own them agree...

Our Governments encouraged manufacturers to improve their technology to produce better, more efficient machines by requiring them to have an 'energy label', which scored machines A-G based on how efficient they are, how efficiently they wash, and how efficiently they extract water, naming and shaming the machines using outdated, inefficient technology.

Consumers avoided machines that scored poorly like the plague, therefore within a few years there were ONLY 'A' rated machines on the market here.

Thanks to the energy label scheme, all the machines on our market (bar the top loaders Whirlpool and Maytag sell) are far more efficient, and wash a lot better than machines of years gone by.

Therefore, there is no need for tax breaks on energy efficient machines, people here wouldn't buy anything else...

Matt[this post was last edited: 3/19/2011-20:08]