Glad to hear that you are enjoying your new machine. I cannot imagine installers not putting all 4 "rubber" shoes on the metal feet of the leveling legs. They give the machine a firm purchase on the floor. Is the machine on a concrete floor? If not, there are vibration-absorbing pads sold to reduce the transfer of vibration from the machine to the floor.
Huebsch ZFN50R Arrived Today!!!!
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I purchased my machine from Castle Appliances in Calgary, Alberta, who is an authorized dealer of Huebsch machines. They also sell some commercial stuff too, but mostly just retail.
I checked the machine and it is level. It seems sturdy enough, but I'll consider that advice about lowering the feet and then raising them during spin. Ever since I put the rubber feet on, it only moves a little bit on the pulse spins, but not during the final spin.
Thanks for the advice and compliments guys & gals!
I purchased my machine from Castle Appliances in Calgary, Alberta, who is an authorized dealer of Huebsch machines. They also sell some commercial stuff too, but mostly just retail.
I checked the machine and it is level. It seems sturdy enough, but I'll consider that advice about lowering the feet and then raising them during spin. Ever since I put the rubber feet on, it only moves a little bit on the pulse spins, but not during the final spin.
Thanks for the advice and compliments guys & gals!
mrb627
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Dispenser Tool
Now you need the dispenser tool so you can remove the drawer for cleaning.
Malcolm
Now you need the dispenser tool so you can remove the drawer for cleaning.
Malcolm
hi qualin, you have a gorgeous washer! I am intrigued by the simple design, and quality build. The one thing that I don't see that I am looking for in my next washer is a delay wash option. Does your washer come with this function? Thank you in advance!
Wow.. this is an old thread. So, it's been a little bit over 3 years since I first got this washer. Guess I should provide a status update.
The washer has been downright flawless. The washer has been adjusted so that it washes and rinses with a higher water level, but only enough so that the water comes up to the rim of the inner tub. This has dramatically improved the rinsing capabilities of the washer and using the "Extra Rinse" switch isn't really needed unless I've been washing with bleach.
I am very impressed with this machine. It does a great job washing clothing and hasn't ripped, torn or shredded any item of clothing I own since I bought it. We've put everything through this machine and it handles it quite nicely. I've had absolutely no problems with it whatsoever. (Knocks on wood!)
I would highly recommend this machine to anyone thinking about buying a front loader. The extra price is certainly worth it.
Wrungout, this washer is a "No frills" machine. It is designed to do one thing and one thing only, wash your clothes. I don't see why you'd need a delay wash option when it can complete a cycle in 40 minutes.
Huebsch machines are designed for light commercial use, so they don't have any of the gimmicks you typically find on consumer machines. As a result, there's less things that can break down or cause problems later on.
The matching dryer though just had its automatic cycles stop working last week. I put a load of clothes in it and it ran for three hours without advancing the timer. (The clothes were very dry by the way.) The timed dry still works. I think all it needs is a new timer, but I'll get an inspection done as well just to ensure that everything is OK.
Other than that, both of these units have been very reliable.
The washer has been downright flawless. The washer has been adjusted so that it washes and rinses with a higher water level, but only enough so that the water comes up to the rim of the inner tub. This has dramatically improved the rinsing capabilities of the washer and using the "Extra Rinse" switch isn't really needed unless I've been washing with bleach.
I am very impressed with this machine. It does a great job washing clothing and hasn't ripped, torn or shredded any item of clothing I own since I bought it. We've put everything through this machine and it handles it quite nicely. I've had absolutely no problems with it whatsoever. (Knocks on wood!)
I would highly recommend this machine to anyone thinking about buying a front loader. The extra price is certainly worth it.
Wrungout, this washer is a "No frills" machine. It is designed to do one thing and one thing only, wash your clothes. I don't see why you'd need a delay wash option when it can complete a cycle in 40 minutes.
Huebsch machines are designed for light commercial use, so they don't have any of the gimmicks you typically find on consumer machines. As a result, there's less things that can break down or cause problems later on.
The matching dryer though just had its automatic cycles stop working last week. I put a load of clothes in it and it ran for three hours without advancing the timer. (The clothes were very dry by the way.) The timed dry still works. I think all it needs is a new timer, but I'll get an inspection done as well just to ensure that everything is OK.
Other than that, both of these units have been very reliable.
mrb627
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Observation
Qualin,
I noticed something about the tub in my SQ FL yesterday and I thought I would ask here. I don't have any sign of scratching on the back wall of the wash tub. I suspect it has to do with the quality of the stainless steel used. I do recall tub scratching on the Miele almost right away but not on the Speed Queen.
How is yours?
Malcolm
Qualin,
I noticed something about the tub in my SQ FL yesterday and I thought I would ask here. I don't have any sign of scratching on the back wall of the wash tub. I suspect it has to do with the quality of the stainless steel used. I do recall tub scratching on the Miele almost right away but not on the Speed Queen.
How is yours?
Malcolm
Delay wash
the reason I asked about delay wash is because quite often, I put a load on the night before, with my delay wash option, to be ready for me to dry first thing in the morning(or after work-or whenever I will have time that day to deal) I work 6 days a week and do most of my wash on Sunday. However, sometimes a member of my family needs something during the week, that's why I asked about the option. Thank you for your response.
the reason I asked about delay wash is because quite often, I put a load on the night before, with my delay wash option, to be ready for me to dry first thing in the morning(or after work-or whenever I will have time that day to deal) I work 6 days a week and do most of my wash on Sunday. However, sometimes a member of my family needs something during the week, that's why I asked about the option. Thank you for your response.
Malcolm, the rear of the tub in my Huebsch looks as pristine as the day I bought it. Strange that the Miele's would have an issue with that.
Wrungout, I don't think you'll find any machine designed for light commercial use which has a delay wash feature. At least none that I'm aware of. That would be a feature only found on consumer grade machines only.
The exception to this rule may be the Miele front loaders, but they come at even more of a price premium over the Huebsch machines. I wish you the best of luck.
Wrungout, I don't think you'll find any machine designed for light commercial use which has a delay wash feature. At least none that I'm aware of. That would be a feature only found on consumer grade machines only.
The exception to this rule may be the Miele front loaders, but they come at even more of a price premium over the Huebsch machines. I wish you the best of luck.
Some Questions:
You make the comment that you are impressed with the machine's washing ability.
Do you ever have any trouble with the shorter cycle times having issues on items like Whites (Stained) or regular clothing that is stained, or are there "workarounds" you apply to alleviate the situation?
I'm also guessing, since your water supply is so hot, if you have trouble with the "HOT" setting really ending up to be "Warm-Hot" at best? I know the machine has ATC, but I wonder about the effect of a cold washer being fed Hot water?
You make the comment that you are impressed with the machine's washing ability.
Do you ever have any trouble with the shorter cycle times having issues on items like Whites (Stained) or regular clothing that is stained, or are there "workarounds" you apply to alleviate the situation?
I'm also guessing, since your water supply is so hot, if you have trouble with the "HOT" setting really ending up to be "Warm-Hot" at best? I know the machine has ATC, but I wonder about the effect of a cold washer being fed Hot water?
thanks again for your response. I am going to Saskatoon tomorrow, so I will take a look at the Miele. Unfortunately, there is no Huebsch dealer in Saskatchewan. I will have to wait until the next time I go to Calgary. I really liked having rear control panel. My first front loader had it, and my Parents have an LG that has rear controls. (I hope I didn't jinx it, their machine is about 7 years old)
To washer111:
I don't have issues with the shorter wash cycles and stains. I find that if there are clothes which are heavily stained, I pre-treat them using something like "SHOUT" and wash them in a smaller separate load. I find that a larger tub works better for ensuring there's more washing action when it is needed. As a result, longer wash cycles don't seem as necessary.
As well, this washer does not have ATC. Hot is tap hot, warm is lukewarm and cold is tap cold. I find that if I want the water to be very hot, I have to temper the machine first, which isn't a big deal.
I'd say that "COLD" setting is about 10 C, Warm is about 30 C, Hot (Untempered) is about 50 C and Hot (Tempered) is about 60 C, although I haven't measured it.
By tempering the machine, I mean, letting it fill with hot water without any clothes in it, letting it agitate for a few seconds to warm up the tub, running the spin cycle to drain it and then starting a normal cycle with clothes in it.
I rarely do this except for when I want to wash whites with Persil.
To Wrungout:
Huebsch and LG are the only manufacturers that I'm aware of that sell a front loader with rear controls. I guess front controls are much more popular. I got the rear control ones because I liked the look and they were cheaper than the front control machines.
I don't have issues with the shorter wash cycles and stains. I find that if there are clothes which are heavily stained, I pre-treat them using something like "SHOUT" and wash them in a smaller separate load. I find that a larger tub works better for ensuring there's more washing action when it is needed. As a result, longer wash cycles don't seem as necessary.
As well, this washer does not have ATC. Hot is tap hot, warm is lukewarm and cold is tap cold. I find that if I want the water to be very hot, I have to temper the machine first, which isn't a big deal.
I'd say that "COLD" setting is about 10 C, Warm is about 30 C, Hot (Untempered) is about 50 C and Hot (Tempered) is about 60 C, although I haven't measured it.
By tempering the machine, I mean, letting it fill with hot water without any clothes in it, letting it agitate for a few seconds to warm up the tub, running the spin cycle to drain it and then starting a normal cycle with clothes in it.
I rarely do this except for when I want to wash whites with Persil.
To Wrungout:
Huebsch and LG are the only manufacturers that I'm aware of that sell a front loader with rear controls. I guess front controls are much more popular. I got the rear control ones because I liked the look and they were cheaper than the front control machines.
One short thing I thought I should add...
The way this machine determines "warm" is the same way they do it in their top loaders. They simply use a mixing valve with a restrictor on the hot side so that the water isn't too hot. I personally don't find that this slows down hot water filling all that much, in all honesty.
We have our water heater set to 60 C, which is probably hotter than it should be, but we don't have children so it's not really an issue.
I love how this machine doesn't "dumb down" the hot water. Washing with very hot water has cleaned a lot of items that I couldn't get clean before.
If I could improve on this machine:
1. Separate water level switches for washing and rinsing. Washing would have a low water level while rinsing would have a high water level. (Switchable?)
2. A 240 volt automatically controlled heating element which would make boil washing possible. I'd rather boil wash than bleach.
3. A higher final extraction speed. Preferably 1500 RPM, with a kickdown to 1000 RPM or 500 RPM depending on load balance and cycle selection.
4. A "Woolens/Knits" cycle which would just put the machine into redistribute for the wash cycle with water in the tub. This would minimize tumbling but would still effectively wash the clothes.
5. The ability to select wash cycle time, 10, 20 or 30 minutes. (Could be labelled, "Light", "Normal" and "Heavy")
6. End of cycle buzzer. The dryer has one, why not the washer?
Just some ideas. Other than that.. I'm quite happy with this product and I'm glad I bought it. Worth every penny so far!
The way this machine determines "warm" is the same way they do it in their top loaders. They simply use a mixing valve with a restrictor on the hot side so that the water isn't too hot. I personally don't find that this slows down hot water filling all that much, in all honesty.
We have our water heater set to 60 C, which is probably hotter than it should be, but we don't have children so it's not really an issue.
I love how this machine doesn't "dumb down" the hot water. Washing with very hot water has cleaned a lot of items that I couldn't get clean before.
If I could improve on this machine:
1. Separate water level switches for washing and rinsing. Washing would have a low water level while rinsing would have a high water level. (Switchable?)
2. A 240 volt automatically controlled heating element which would make boil washing possible. I'd rather boil wash than bleach.
3. A higher final extraction speed. Preferably 1500 RPM, with a kickdown to 1000 RPM or 500 RPM depending on load balance and cycle selection.
4. A "Woolens/Knits" cycle which would just put the machine into redistribute for the wash cycle with water in the tub. This would minimize tumbling but would still effectively wash the clothes.
5. The ability to select wash cycle time, 10, 20 or 30 minutes. (Could be labelled, "Light", "Normal" and "Heavy")
6. End of cycle buzzer. The dryer has one, why not the washer?
Just some ideas. Other than that.. I'm quite happy with this product and I'm glad I bought it. Worth every penny so far!
mielerod69
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Longer wash times for AU machines
Hi,
Just had a look at the WELS website and the Australian version Speed Queen front loaders take 128 mins to complete a normal cycle. The toploaders using the high efficiency mode take 84 mins.
Hi,
Just had a look at the WELS website and the Australian version Speed Queen front loaders take 128 mins to complete a normal cycle. The toploaders using the high efficiency mode take 84 mins.
Ouch..
When you take into account that the machine will temper incoming hot water because of a cold drum/clothes and the long washing time, then I think the water might be cold be the time the machine reached the end of the Main-Wash...
It would be nice if the Australian machines came fitted with a booster heater considering we have higher distribution voltages to all premises, and considering the long times it would be nice!
When you take into account that the machine will temper incoming hot water because of a cold drum/clothes and the long washing time, then I think the water might be cold be the time the machine reached the end of the Main-Wash...
It would be nice if the Australian machines came fitted with a booster heater considering we have higher distribution voltages to all premises, and considering the long times it would be nice!
mielerod69,
Now I'm really curious as to why there is such a difference in cycle times! I wonder how the cycles are different?
My guess is that Australians pack their machines so much heavier than Americans/Canadians so they need longer washtimes to get the clothes clean? I don't know.. I'm speculating.
Now I'm really curious as to why there is such a difference in cycle times! I wonder how the cycles are different?
My guess is that Australians pack their machines so much heavier than Americans/Canadians so they need longer washtimes to get the clothes clean? I don't know.. I'm speculating.
mielerod69
Well-known member
Cycle times
Hi Qualin,
The reason that the cycle times are longer on the AU machines is that they have to meet minimum wash proformance of 80% soil removal. The machines are tested to full capacity of 8 kg for this test.
Hi Qualin,
The reason that the cycle times are longer on the AU machines is that they have to meet minimum wash proformance of 80% soil removal. The machines are tested to full capacity of 8 kg for this test.
Institutional Testing:
Okay, now I'm glad to know that these machines will CLEAN loads
The energy-labeling program they have here tests water usage plus energy usage in Cold and Warm(?) water. This has me wondering: I wonder if the SQ machine increases cycle times even more on the 128minutes when selected on Cold or if that time is optimised for cold washing, and warm (or hot) just gives further improved results?
More and more I'm being convinced the SQ is the best washer on the market today. The lack of water heater issue is really drifting off for me!
Okay, now I'm glad to know that these machines will CLEAN loads
The energy-labeling program they have here tests water usage plus energy usage in Cold and Warm(?) water. This has me wondering: I wonder if the SQ machine increases cycle times even more on the 128minutes when selected on Cold or if that time is optimised for cold washing, and warm (or hot) just gives further improved results?
More and more I'm being convinced the SQ is the best washer on the market today. The lack of water heater issue is really drifting off for me!
Now that is odd! That would mean I guess the American and Canadian versions wouldn't be able to remove 80% of the soil.
