I am SO MAD at GE!!!

[toggleswitch]

..so let'a all take our *happy* pill and hold hands and

Ya know, if we shunned everyone (or every entity)who did something wrong to us even once (real or imagined offense) we'd have no one left in the world to talk to.

Anger simply hurts and destroys the angry.

 

[oxydolfan1]

"Does anyone here think GE is Generally Evil?"

I do, but no more than any of the other corporatists.

They do what they can get away with.

IMHO, Dennis shot himself in the foot, campaign-wise, and they've been denying John Edwards, Dr. Ron Paul, and even Mike Gravel their fair shake from day one, so they're only operating under orders from "Ground Control".

I'll definitely buy GE products, if the quality is there and the price is right.

 

[oxydolfan1]

"Does anyone here think GE is Generally Evil?"

I do, but no more than any of the other corporatists.

They do what they can get away with.

IMHO, Dennis shot himself in the foot, campaign-wise, and they've been denying John Edwards, Dr. Ron Paul, and even Mike Gravel their fair shake from day one, so they're only operating under orders from "Ground Control".

I'll definitely buy GE products, if the quality is there and the price is right.

 

[peterh770]

Years ago I swore off GE when some environmental activist won an Oscar for a documentary she did on how GE is is distroying the planet by making nuclear power plants and bombs. Her speech was very pasionate and altho' I never saw the documentary, it stuck with me. I have since reconsidered my opinion when taking into account the current state of home appliances.

They do make good cooking products...

 

[panthera]

From a European standpoint

Since I grew up in the US but have German citizenship, I can understand Scott's feelings very very well. I don't think anything has been truly right since Robert and Martin were murdered.
At the same time, will you forgive a non-American for commenting here? (If not, just skip the rest of this reply).
Scott - and everyone who is thinking of writing in a candidate who can't win, abstaining, etc. I want to ask you to reconsider.
It is the nature of things that the democrat's nominee is going to be a compromise. This is because democrats are made up of various interest groups - people who care about human freedom (not always including my gay rights), people who only care about racial issues, people who put the environment before other people, people who are strict constitutionallists, people who are socialists, people who are...
So whomever your country ultimately chooses is going to fail us in one or more areas which we hold dear.

That is inevitable. The real question for the rest of this planet is not who is the best, but who is the least bad of the choices given. It is going to be a tight situation, you have seen how your congress has had its hands tied by the too narrow majority of the democrats - independents and republicans can stop any legislation which would change things. There is a real danger of this happening in 2008. Especially if people of conscience vote 'protest' instead of 'prevent'.

If you don't vote for a candidate who has a genuine chance of winning, then you will be empowering the extremists - on both sides - and they will decide the election. It happened to Germany in the 1930s.

Please, even if you have to hold your nose - vote realistically. I have been voting all my adult life, never missed an election. From 1976 to 1995, I voted as a US citizen. Never once did I vote 'for' someone, always 'against' someone. Since 1995, as a German citizen I have done exactly the same.

You may wake up the next day thinking you prostituted yourself, ok, sure - but your nation no longer enjoys habeus corpus rights. When you can be apprehended at any time, without cause and held indefinitely without cause or appeal, maybe it is time to focus on the real basics. Living in Europe, where homosexuals enjoy human rights, I gag every time I am confronted with the 'moderate' democratic party line. But even the worst of the democrats has promised to restore habeus corpus...and, sadly, there is a very good chance that the next president will be appointing at least one if not two supreme court justices. Isn't that worth a bit of whoring?

 

[danemodsandy]

Panthera:

"Please, even if you have to hold your nose - vote realistically."

Well said. No matter what spectrum of political belief one adheres to, this election is too important, and is likely to be too close, to waste even one vote on a candidate who is not really electable.

I remind everyone that the votes squandered on Ralph Nader in 2000 were a factor in putting Bush into office; every vote cast for Nader was a vote that Gore could have used. The people who indulged in the luxury of "voting their conscience" that election couldn't have had anything backfire worse, in my estimation.

 

[retro-man]

voting in election

The time to vote is during the primary. This is when your vote counts. Come the actual election time it doesn't matter who you vote for or if you vote or not, it is all done by the electoral votes. The common vote does not come into play during this process. I have spoken to countless political people coming to my door daily for the past month and I asked them all this question and they said I was correct and walked away. No sense waisting time with this guy. Anybody remember the last election when the popular vote was not for the guy in office but the electoral vote was. And look see who got in for a second term. Sorry but this is going to generate a lot of feedback I feel. Just my 2cents worth.
Jon

 

[andrewinorlando]

Keven -

Very well put, and right on the money too. I'll still buy GE appliances because I like them, and they make a good product, maybe no better or no worse than others, but certainly functional and reliable. NBC's refusal to allow an unelectable candidate to participate in a debate has no bearing on the reality of the situation that exists in the US today. While I certainly understand the implications of NBC's refusal, it has little or no bearing on GE itself...they are only the parent company, and do not make NBC policy, which operates as an arm of a conglomerate. If anyone thinks the head of GE calls the head of NBC and says "don't do that", then you should think again...it doesn't work that way. I think we have a whole hell of a lot more to worry about in the US today than buying Whirlpool versus GE appliances.

 

[johnb300m]

You know what I like?

When people end up running out of things to boycott, and they end up with either nothing left to support/buy/patronize, or they end up patronizing the organization that pissed them off in the first place.

Idiots.

 

[neptunebob]

Well, since my favorite is no longer running I guess you all are right but I still try not to buy from companies that harm the environment or their employees or make obnoxious products. I would think Whirlpool or Frigidaire would be safe for appliances. If anyone knows otherwise please tell me. I do know Clyde, OH is in Dennis territory and and Whirlpool has a plant there so the might try to unelect him? Knowing what I know about GE I probably won't buy their products, even if it just makes me feel better. I'm also mad at ABC and Disney so "I don't want to go to Disney World". Too much of a trip and is it really much better than Kennywood? (please tell me it it is). I try not to drive much so as not to support the oil companies. When it comes time to buy a new vehicle, I am considering Toyota, but if I should not, please tell. After all the games USAirways has played with the PGh area with layoffs and threats of, I might be willing to drive to Myrtle Beach if I go. By the way, I fixed my sisters GE range but they sure charge a lot for parts - 67 dollars for the bake element- or is that reasonable for this part?

 

[rp2813]

"If you don't vote for a candidate who has a genuine chance of winning, then you will be empowering the extremists - on both sides - and they will decide the election. It happened to Germany in the 1930s."

Keven, with the above statement you have accurately described the 2000 presidential election in which those who threw their votes away on Nader KNOWINGLY handed the victory to Bush. The race was very close and they still chose to waste their vote on Nader when Gore needed their votes. In retrospect I doubt there is a single Nader voter from 2000 that didn't wish they had a chance to change their mind. Once in office, it was a given that the Bush thugs were going to assure a re-election in 2008.

I also blame Nader himself. He knew very well that by staying in the race he was helping Bush, but he refused to bow out and throw his support to Gore. It was the humanitarian thing to do and he chose not to. I don't even listen to a thing Nader has to say anymore. His egotism was blinding in 2000.

It's crucial that in 2008 we do not let another repugnican whack job with blinders on into the White House. Until we have a truly viable 3rd party that the media can't ignore, our only choice is between Democrat and Repugnican. DON'T anybody throw their vote away this time, please!

And don't even get me started on the insanely illogical Electoral College situation.

 

[oxydolfan1]

"And don't even get me started on the insanely illogical Electoral College situation."

Agreed.

Is this any way to pick a president?

Why can't we just VOTE???

I just don't see how a one-party system masquerading as a two-party system meets anyone's needs anymore.

 

[neptunebob]

If anyone thinks the head of GE calls the head of NBC and says "don't do that", then you should think again...it doesn't work that way.

Oh, but I am practically sure that Jeffrey (Inmelt, head of GE) did give NBC a call. Some of what Dennis would have to say are things that GE doesn't like. GE make jet engines (In Cleveland, Dennis territory) that are used in aircraft in the Iraq war. They also make other war products. What happens when you end the war? You don't need as many engines. GE also builds nuclear power stations. In Nevada, some people oppose the nuclear waste burial site inside Yucca Mountain, also Dennis generally opposes nuclear power. GE needs Yucca Mountain in order to build power plants. So having Dennis on the debate may mean their business can suffer. Now, we can't let that happen can we? It's not the American way!